Guys...  

This discussion has come up before. Gender has nothing to do with surgery, is your identity, yes it can be deceiving, but she made the choice to become a woman. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation she is a woman now and is pointless to bring the post op/preop issue. In fact, some of them go above and beyond in order to look amazing and are more feminine than most of us.

Gender does have something to do with surgery or should I say body parts...Part of being a woman/man is your genetic makeup not just how you feel.  It is her business but it becomes his when he sees her/him and he has a right to know...

I agree. I think that people should be transparent on both sides of the hobby although we know that doesn't always exist. Bottom line is that I don't think "she" would get nearly as much business if she was transparent. I'm fairly certain I know whom you are referring to. She has many, many reviews. I saw her some time ago and thought this was a pretty easy call. I chose not to review her or out her as I just don't want to be hurtful to her, wreck her business or destroy the perceptions of the hobbyists who have seen or continue to see her. I personally feel that there is not a lot of good that would come from making it public. Just my $.02.

If men want to be see a post-op good for them, but not when its a "trap"

Some people in this hobby are crazy and should be exposed for their deception!

Or run out of the room screaming

What an interesting thread!

Beyond the reasons mentioned about taste, wetness, feel....  

The fact that this person is deceiving some people for business is not cool.

I believe the person they at speaking of has well over 150 reviews and it has not come out in reviews yet. What confuses me is the OP feeling it was so obvious . A lot of people do not mind or they would have left. Possibly some did. Maybe it is more accepted than you may think. Or they were just super curious. Seems to me many people liked her. Pollie

Considering some men refuse to stand up for themselves,  not be honest with reviews, and let the ladies run all over them.  

Even hiding behind a alias, some men are that worthless that they won't warn other men to potential trouble.

This is comical. If a woman buys a shoe thinking she just bought Christian Louboutin, wears it around and loves it everything is fine. Once the label falls off and it reads Payless she is pissed off and feels cheated. This is a fraud. How could I pay $$$$$$$$$$$ for this shoe and it actually is a $$ Payless shoe. Of course she loved the shoe when it felt wonderful and looked beautiful but when she found out she felt cheated, deceived.  

I am a provider. I did not see either of these people .Pollie

Take a quick look over at other threads...

What would be hysterical is if you found out that you saw the "lady" in question. Saw her had a great time and then found out later on that your date that showed you a great time had a sex change and was now a woman. You had a great time, she gave you an amazing BBBJ and DFKisses that you loved so much MAC and now what?  What do you do with this info big boy?  You saw her and didn't recognize it yourself like many others didn't. Feel like a complete idiot?  What do you do now that changes what happened?  Nothing. Wait let me see if you reviewed her already. Lol. Your hysterical MAC.

That gets people killed !! Yes the "female" has a right to privacy in the general public but when she is selling "her" body and presenting herself as 100 percent women, it is NOT okay for reasons like this. There are plenty of men that fancy a post op tranny, she needs to market herself as such. I would definitely out them.

The men had to know --- but no one said anything because they do not want to out her  

This is the general discussion section and this "dumb" thread fits well within this category...

Could not agree more!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey everyone...  

fully agree with this, how much one must have paid for it 300-400 per hour, no one in anyother Profession gets paid that kind of rate, even if you slogg your ASS , so guys stand up whats appropriate and exercise due diligence

300-400 per hour, try 500-600 per hour here in NYC.  Even more reason why this he/she needs to be outed....

"open minded enough"..  You in some sense just gave a guy a BJ and you should not be mad about it.  I would of went berserk....How could this he/she let a guy go down there knowing what they are and not say something.   THAT IS CRAZY......  Being evolved and open minded does not mean you have to give a guy a BJ. I am open minded but I don't suck dick either.... Look, I don't care who marries who but something like this PERSONAL, come on now.....Now I know some people will say but it was not a dick but just the thought drives me out of my mind.   No one should feel the least bit guilty for paying a "chunk of change" and then have to go through this situation...

Why come on here post a comment like this and not post the provider information?

Looks like he started a thread and instead of doing the right thing just coward out like most of the men here.

You keep talking about this person being fearful.

You could also submit a review of your personal experience, minus the announcement about your gender suspicion.  For instance:

It's funny how hobbyist have to provide all of the honest screening information.

I have anything against being gay or TS. However, it was deceptive advertising on the part of the lady in question.
By changing her TER profile to TS there should be no issues in future. And I think some more guys will come out of the woodwork when they realize the person they saw was a guy.

I think the OP found out some things about himself that he did not like.  Then rambles on about being open minded-which has nothing to do with wanting to have sex with another man/woman.  I am open minded but everyone can have their limits.  This guy (original poster) is a total waste of time....

There is a STRONG undercurrent of homophobia and prejudice here on this discussion.  It is not merely a discussion about non-disclosure.

Exactly, then why doesn't she/he disclose this so people that WANT to see that can and people that don't can avoid.  Then there is no fear.  The only fear is when some guy thinks it is a girl and finds otherwise and gets a little aggressive.  Having a preference to want a woman and not suck dick is NOT homophobia.  Please don't try the shame game here.  If she/he wants to be a post op then go right ahead but don't have sex with men that may find this repulsive then worry about what may happen to you if these men found out.  If she/he were honest from the beginning then only guys who want that would see her/him and there would be no problem!!!!!!!

I agree with MUD if TER has feature for post op she needs to be under post op so that way the guys that love post op could go see her she will still make money  

BRAVO !!!

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Hey Mimi...  you had a great suggestion, but I don't think I want to be the one to do that.  Who knows, maybe someone else will.  Think about how harsh those comments would be if you're in her spot.  If it was her services that were the issue, I would have no problem commenting on the bad performance, but this is different.  This can potentially damage a person.  It just seems like it would hit too hard.  

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Am I supposed to take it "harshly" when someone says my tattoos (or my small tits...or my age) are a turn-off?  Really - how personally can I take it when someone isn't aroused by some body part of mine?  These things are just facts of me that some people will like and some people won't.   What WOULD "hit me hard" is if someone was turned off by my service - which is something I can actually control, and that I put effort in to.

I don't know why bigTard is now polluting the NY board since he's not remotely from here. But if you've followed his posts on the General Discussion Board and the P&R Board you would know he's one of the most ignorant and illiterate posters here.  He is a laughingstock.  He's also a homophobe, as I know personally.  He didn't like that I was flaming him and so he checked my reviews and saw I'd done a couple of MFMs.  Being too stupid to understand that MFM (as opposed to MMF or FMM) means there was no "sword crossing" he decided to continually flame me as being gay.
So don't take anything he says seriously.  He's an ignorant, worthless clown who can barely write a coherent sentence.  Trash.

There isn't a reason for hatred and most guys' posts are showing hatred.

So you use words like fear, hate and homophobia.

I don't like liars or cowards myself.

Posted By: MidAgedCEO

Looks like he started a thread and instead of doing the right thing just coward out like most of the men here.  
   
 Not that I ever wish anyone would be raped, however if he every has a daughter and she was raped I hoped her reply isn't the "I deserved it"  
   
 Cause that basically sum up citysinner and many of the men here, victims who end up blaming themselves, and his final statement basically admitted such.  Instead of holding the other person responsible for the deception, he chose to blame himself as being responsible...  I mean be a man not even a man but a normal functioning human being, you were con'ed and instead of hold the con artist responsible, he just said it was his fault.   I wish more crime victims are like you, that way we have more criminals running down the street instead of jail because you blame yourself for being the victim and not the person who is doing the victimization.  
   
 Some people have fetish for post-op/gay/ts but for people that have no such fetish, that is basically low down scam.  
   
 Thanks citysinner and the rest of the pussies her for making TER a place to get fair and objective reviews of ladies.   Once a doormat always a doormat, its no wonder women walk all over your sorry ass.  
   
 This is why no women in real life will every respect you and no women that you pay will ever respect you, cause your not even a MAN.  So this is your life, not even "hobbying"  but a "lifer" for life cause you will never have a normal relationship outside of this, this is the only place where anyone will "pretend" to respect you, and they do it with a pretend smile.  You are the saddest of all humans, and you will be paying for companionship for life never knowing what a true companionship is.    
   
 If I was a lady I would walk all over your sorry asses too , its no wonder even a jellyfish have a backbone stiffer then some of you..  

It's a "discussion" thread, it's started for the purpose of discussing the topic.  
I don't think it's a waste of time to discuss something.  

I cannot believe the bullshit.  Why even start off this way.  Just from the beginning post yourself as a post-op and then guys that want that would go see you.  SHE/HE created the problem.  Lets please don't get into the sanctimonious crap, please.  She/he does have the right to be what she wants but your right to swing your elbow STOPS at my nose. You honestly cannot take a serious look at that and not an emotional look at this. Her/his actions affect other people no matter how you feel or what happened in high school-you cannot just say "fuck it" I am going to do what I want and I know there are people out there that want no pat of this but I'll do it anyway to fell better about myself after watching an episode of Oprah.  You bring up gay to marginalize other people's opinions.  Like calling someone RACIST when they don't see a certain person because of their race (I've been through that many times)-Remember other people have opinions too.  Come on, lets grow up.  I say the same thing-where have all the good people gone.

When I first joined TER, it was to ask about an ad for a wicked HOT HOT girl and a Profile that was no longer available.  (I wanted to read the reviews before following up.)  

I think you just made the perfect argument for not outing this transgendered individual - what if MAC decided to go after this person?  would you want that on your conscience?  MAC certainly proved himself to be a huge homophobe, I don't know if this person is stable or not, he certainly seems a little stupid to me, who knows, maybe he's stupid enuf to want to hurt someone...

not really - can you identify the person in question?  if you can't, then I didn't

...by acting like a child because you didn't get your way, throwing out insults and judgements, being joined by other members of similar intellect and character was more than I could stand, I will now out the person in question!!! because god forbid this internet-brave posse calls me a coward again, or even worse, you and your little friend throw a real temper tantrum by rolling around on the floor yelling and screaming demanding a lollypop LOL

we are not going to out this person...I see some girls/guys that I thought -  gee, she looks like she has a fake ass and the face even though blurred looks kind of hard but we will never get a straight (pun intended) answer from anyone

All of a sudden men who have no wish to see non-females are labeled a homophobes?  

I joined TER to do my homework as best I can. I think I guessed who the post op providers are - I never visited - but in reading reviews I felt something was not being said - generally the providers were described as south-east Asians (clue, I guess) and provided anal (another clue since that seems to be rare for Koreans, Asian females and considered 'extra' when offered) and while the provideres in question had lots of good reviews I recall one of their first reviews - so you had to read a lot of them from 2 to 3 years back - mentioned in a vague way the provider was post op (mentioned he checked down there).  

You ordered a male hooker ?
You should see this he she  

Please go learn how to read.

You are a clown and running from broad to broad looking for help is weak.

and this is my local board.  You are the clown who's come here to post from across the country.  And don't flatter yourself.  You don't bring any heat, let alone any light to any discussion.  Just ignorance. But keep on making a fool of yourself.  It's the one thing you're expert at.

I was talking about what the guy was into and fighting against his true feelings.

The argument as to whether to out this provider as a POT or not has merits on both sides of the argument.  It's up to the OP and he made up his mind. But...

It's not a question that the guy is stupid or anything of that sort.  The gentleman saw a pretty female he like to see and was caught off guard.  He either got to enjoy himself or was phychologically affected..  It seems the second phase fits the description in this thread and the  
fact he was disappointed.  Next time, he'll put his glasses on and ask her to remove her panties  
before giving her the money.
 

Men are born with XY chromosomes, women with XX chromosomes. Just because some man "feels" like a woman, or dresses like a woman, or has an operation to cosmetically represent a woman, does NOT turn him into a woman. Seriously now, this Politically Correct nonsense about "gender" being whatever you want it to be is getting quite ludicrous...

Lol I don't get it ... You started a post with an angry , pissed wtf attitude and then actually supported her side ?? So what's the reason of making a post anyway apparently it doesn't bother you .... Some of the posts here are cruel though , I mean seriously only think she can't offer you is to get pregnant which Id think you don't want to happen .... But anyway I feel like this is a BS post cause you contradict yourself

Wow I can't believe you are referring to a TS person as a HE are you from 1940 ? Well I was born with a vagina but I would be turned off by someone who is a close minded homophobe ... And turn you around

You are seriously too arrogant lol... Let's leave homophobic comments alone ... But if you think any of us providers are turned on by arrogance and too much self confidence you are not on this planet.  and It's so funny how you sarcastically refer to "women who sell themselves" like you don't buy sex from those women every week lol