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nothing is risk free with this hobby...
bestbye 1171 reads
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Doesn't that mean that the lady in question has had more cocks in her than most women in a lifetime? And doesn't that mean the STD risks COULD be higher?
Yes, a first-time woman could already be infected, but surely the chances are higher the more men she sees?
Yes, it is said that long-time providers protect themselves and are regularly tested.
But can we take that to the bank?
I mean, as a previous thread indicated, BBBJ can lead to infections, even if the woman has no symptoms.
And surely the more men a woman sees, with or without BBBJ, the higher the risks?
Please don't start a flame war; this thread is intended to settle minds, like mine, that often ponder this question.

towaco 11 Reviews 557 reads
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a well reviewed provider, has in her best interest, to be safe. I think if you are smart and pick a provider that is reviewed ( and not from BP ) and during the session you notice she is playing safe.. you can assume she is playing safe with others.  If she is doing something un-safe..then i would alternative my actions (HJ) and off I go. Just my .02

Undercover Provider 624 reads
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3 / 34

This topic has been discussed "ad nauseum"!
Guys can choose, CBJ or BBBJ!
I guess any person partaking of P4P + free sex, booty calls, one night stands or even short relationships are AWARE of the risks that comes with their sex activities.
If you are concerned about ANY  of the women you meet - in or out of the hobby arena - just ask for a damned condom for your BJ.
Pure and simple! Don't do it if you don't want to but let others make their own judgement.
I am pretty sure any lady who offers BBBJ will cover for you IF ASK FOR IT.
Also, is funny when guys/girls post under aliases bashing the ones getting/offering BBBJ - and these same people are not a bit concerned about all the DFK, DATY, DATO they are enjoying.



TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 485 reads
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LoveLaneysRedLightShow See my TER Reviews 584 reads
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.... if you think about it our body is our money maker and most girls who've been in the business a while or who are in it for the long haul tend to take very good care of their money makers. Girls in this line of work tend to seek out the best of the best Doctor's for their regular check ups. Many confide in their doctors so the doctor is able to provide the best preventative care possible (for example, the HPV vaccine, birth control pills, etc.). You can rest assured that not only do experienced girls know their bodies inside and out they also know yours pretty well too. If something is even slightly off we recognize it and will often pull out of the meeting -- which I'm sure every girl has done at least once in her career.

No flaming here!
xo L

anon7747493 11 Reviews 486 reads
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6 / 34

Honestly Best, do you actually read anything here or know anything about what goes on here or in this small world we live in? You don't want a flame war, you just want to incite a riot. Unless you know what you are getting into, you shouldn't be here at all. My suggestion is that you wear a body condom and require that the provider do the same. That way you'll never have to touch her. You can say that you were 'with' someone, and write a review about it. And if you want to get holier than thou about, go to church.

Fords See my TER Reviews 645 reads
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bestbye 424 reads
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8 / 34

Thanks for that.
I imagine that a provider wouldn't be reviewed over a relatively long time if STD was a problem. But, of course, the hobbyist who saw her just before you could change all that.
You're right: Risks are always out there, and it's up to the hobbyist to make sure he takes the safest road.

bestbye 380 reads
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9 / 34

That's exactly the reply I was looking for. Thanks for taking some of the anxiety away. Highly logical.
Hope to see you one day!!
xx

bestbye 368 reads
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10 / 34

Exactly the reply I was NOT looking for. There's no need to be insulting. It was a serious question that has attracted some serious answers.
Back to kindergarten, Polar, assuming you're not already there.

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SindeeNYC See my TER Reviews 445 reads
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12 / 34

For the night. But good luck with that  who does it with whoever and what do u think the chances are that SHE gets tested every 3 months? Has vaccines for Hep and HPV. And comes clean as a whistle? The choice is yours.

bestbye 358 reads
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anon7747493 11 Reviews 394 reads
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15 / 34

Apparently you haven't figured it out yet from the majority of replies here. Saying that I should go back to kindergarten is pretty funny. You invited these replies because you opened with the ridiculous concept that unless we play patty cake that we are all in big trouble. Your sophomoric opening statement leads anyone to wonder whether you have emerged from the rock you have been living under while criticizing others that may partake.

If you want to be a participant, do your homework. Know the history of the provider you see. Ask her every question that you need to feel comfortable, and give her the same information that you require from her. Be tested the day of your encounter with papers that say the time and date of the test. Require the provider to do the same. Do not kiss her anywhere and don't be kissed by her. Wear non-latex gloves, require her to do the same. If you want to participate in DATY, bring a dental dam. Wear a condom throughout the entire encounter. Have her utilize a female condom. Both of you should wear a cap to cover your hair in case either one of you have head lice. Wear covers for your feet so that you won't transmit or receive foot fungus. And do not exchange any bodily fluids and tell the provider to not do the same.

Could I have spelled it out any more clearly for you or are you still trying to figure out how this works. That is why I suggested the body condom. A little less work.

Generally, sex equals sharing. Some of the things shared are very unpleasant. Most of the participants seem to feel that sharing is an enjoyable part of what goes on here. Including responsibility for ourselves and the other person. Some of us care enough to not have the things you are so concerned about, and take the time and effort to not transmit anything.

As in all things in life, there are risks. Sometimes they come with rewards. Adults weigh those risks and make decisions and don't seek unreasonable assurances before putting their toe in the water.

Hope this helps you grow up a little. It's been a pleasure.

bachjan 409 reads
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16 / 34

what is the delivery time for the doll and do I need to have provider references to get it??

tranquilwaters See my TER Reviews 554 reads
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17 / 34

a man is concerned by the amount of reviews an escort has.If a woman is escorting for a living, than let's assume she is working a "full time" job, which would entail 8 hrs a day of work. If she is depending on escorting for her living, than she won't be able to pay her bills if she only sees one or two clients a week, so let's assume she sees at the minimum, 1 gent a day, thats 5 gents a week, 20 gents a month, thats 240 gents a year. And that's low-balling it.

240 sounds like alot of men for one woman, but if it's her source of income, what would you realistically expect- 5 gents a year??? That wouldn't even keep her in cat food,let alone pay her rent, car insurance, etc. etc  If it's a responsible provider, which quite a few of us are, then we use protection and get tested often.

If you want to be with a woman who doesn't see alot of men, then you need to seek out a girlfriend or wife and try for a monogomous relationship, instead of seeing escorts. Escorts see men for a living, so yes, she is going to be with a lot of men in her lifetime. I don't mean to be flip, but this kind of question always has me scratching my head and thinking, ?

hugs,
bobbi

SindeeNYC See my TER Reviews 419 reads
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18 / 34

Good one! Don't see a pro if you want low mileage its beyond not  make sense.

bestbye 391 reads
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19 / 34

Good to see you made it to first grade. Hopefully your use of the English language will have improved by then. Less stuffy, less toxic, less overbearingly noxious, and awfully overwritten.
Thank goodness there are real people who post on these boards; those who respond to a question with information that acts to ease one's concerns.
Arrogance, self-importance, a false sense that one is being humorous, all marks of a person who might be old but has never grown up.
When you're back in the Arctic -- where you belong -- I'm sure you'll feel more at home. I hear Polar Bears are dying off in great numbers.
I can think of one who could be added to that list.....

SerenaVincente See my TER Reviews 363 reads
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20 / 34

get tested every 3 months and never got even a little rush

symptoms or no symptoms selfcare s number 1

It does not matter how many times sex was had, but how much care the girl takes care of herself.


you can get HIV with one intercurse only if not careful but you can also have a lot of sex and be healthy if sensible

so it really is down to the individual not numbers

bestbye 471 reads
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21 / 34

Thanks, Serena. I'm getting less and less anxious/neurotic/whatever!!

Laura De Leon See my TER Reviews 492 reads
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22 / 34

are way more promiscuous than ladies in this business and usually never use condoms because they think that it will never happen to them and if it has happened, have been able to take care of it...

So, with that said and if we will look at it that way, you would be better off having sex with a nun, a kid (hopefully u r not that kind), satisfy yourself or simply not have sex at all... right???

If you are not wiling to take the risk... why even thinking on crossing to the other side the road???  you might get run over...

Speaking of which... I'm curious: how many pussies have you had on your cock (as you named it)???  and!...  when was the last time you checked/screened yourself???


Laura

crazyshit 313 reads
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23 / 34

If you are having doubts, then don't see the girl.

Yes, you can make a case that a girl who is highly reviewed is more high volume.  That might very well be true.

But remember...these are professional escorts who do this for a living.  The very nature of this line of work means that they will see more men and more clients than most women.

If that skeeves you out, then I suggest you stay within an activity that is more suitable to your risk profile, such as sensual bodyrub.

crazyshit 362 reads
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24 / 34

Polarbear was pretty matter of fact in his response.

Do your research and don't be looking to TER for answers if you want to know risks and statistics.  The CDC website is a good place to start.

What you want is a very canned, follow-these-instructions-step-by-step-and-you-will-be-safe answer, but that doesn't exist.  There are varying degrees of risk, and I can no more readily tell you that one activity is safe vs. another.  Even the CDC website will talk about oral sex and readily qualify that it is difficult to quantify the risks of oral sex, because oral sex is frequently practiced with vaginal or anal sex, and those could very well be causal factors in disease transmission.

Here is an excerpt from the CDC website, which I've linked below:

"The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex. Measuring the exact risk of HIV transmission as a result of oral sex is very difficult. Additionally, because most sexually active individuals practice oral sex in addition to other forms of sex, such as vaginal and/or anal sex, when transmission occurs, it is difficult to determine whether or not it occurred as a result of oral sex or other more risky sexual activities. Finally, several co-factors may increase the risk of HIV transmission through oral sex, including: oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs. What is known is that HIV has been transmitted through fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus."

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 382 reads
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That I started do escorts recently.. and I still am surprised how cleaner are here gentlemen then those whom I was trying to date in real life !!!

it is  WHY i stopped date at first place !!! they - real dates -   acting as they can have it no condom ..  and  I always   check - as color of cock  's head - red or pink .. \smell if any . any warts .. and if he is not safe - I give him his money back and  tell that I can not see him .
I remember men was driving to me 2 hours and when he did enter - it was smell as .. as.. I do ot know - he had 800 for me - I sent him back .
I testing regulary too and last time I done pap smear and my gynycologist actually after hand exam was soo surprised how healthy all is inside ..

so sex a lot of sex .. good for  woman too
of course get a sperm for woman - it is also good for hormons .. but ..  as you know you  can not  soemtime trust and own husband ::)) so cover  must and enjoy your sex life :)

anon7747493 11 Reviews 339 reads
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I think Best needed to have someone spell this out for him. Going on this board and having unreasonable expectations and trying to equate volume with STDs is like dealing with old wives tales. My perception is that Best was attempting to throw lots of humans under the bus, and couldn't understand why I might be upset about that.

bestbye 316 reads
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27 / 34

I could not have asked for a more detailed response. Thank you.
You ain't as crazy as your handle would have us believe....

bestbye 379 reads
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28 / 34

Uh, how many pussies? Gotta be hundreds. Last checked a month ago. No problems.
Btw, I do understand the risks; that's a given (I ain't a teen).
But it occurred to me that the more hobbyists a provider sees then possibly the greater the risk.
From a number of replies from providers it seems this might not be the case at all, and my mind has been set at a level of peace for which I was looking.
Many thanks to all those who treated this as a serious, if anxiety-driven, question, not as an opportunity to jump into a critical mode.

bestbye 339 reads
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29 / 34

No, Polar, that thought was indeed in YOUR head. Not mine.
I had or have no intention of "throwing lots of humans under the bus." Strange how someone's misinterpretation of the written word can be perceived, or twisted, by them as referring to an act of violence. A complete and utter misunderstanding.
My question, driven by a sudden spell of anxiety, has received some very reassuring answers from providers and hobbyists, which is why I posted in the first place.
Thankfully they understood what I was asking, and I thank them for it.

Laura De Leon See my TER Reviews 369 reads
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30 / 34

I totally understand your anxiety.  And is perfectly normal/fine to have them.
But there are also several things that you as hobbyist/client can do to take your own precautions:
1- Avoid agency's girls or high volume ladies and stick to well known and low volume providers.
2- If you feel safer, buy your own brand new condoms.  Some of us buy them per hundred and keep them for several months.
3- ask to covered bj and/or avoid kissing.
4- and probably this is as important as the previous ones, take care of yourself by having protected sex at ALL times if you are not in a committed relationship or have more than one partner.  

And by the way, don't fool yourself with the number of reviews... I've been in the business over 6 years, have had more partners than my reviews indicates and still at least 10% of my reviews are fake (89 reviews so far)...  so don't count on those numbers.  

Without being reckless, enjoy life freely and without regrets...  and remember that in this hobby, there is so much more than just sex.

Laura

bestbye 410 reads
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31 / 34

A well-thought out reply; gratias! Guess I have to be careful, but as some responders have said (to paraphrase): What is life without risks?
Your points are well taken, Laura, but I guess if I want to play then risks are part of the game.
And so far, so good!

anon7747493 11 Reviews 356 reads
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How does any provider know that you sexual history is not more unsafe than theirs may be? With your attitude exhibited in your opening post, you should be required to show up at your next session with STD test results date and time stamped an hour before your session. Along with a complete sexual history for your provider to examine before proceeding. Seems fair since you seem to think that providers that have a higher frequency of reviews or practice BBBJ are in the higher risk category without knowing them or what their safety precautions may be. You seem to expect these providers to answer your concerns without being responsible for your own.

You started this post with what appears to be the following facts:

1. While this subject has been brought up innumerable times, you did not bother to research it. And if you did, the responses did not satisfy you personally.
2. You decided to show up on a provider/hobbyist site to find factual answers about STDs. You mean you were afraid to talk to your doctor or go to medical sites that may be more in line to satisfy your curiosity?
3. You wanted assurances from the same providers you are accusing to let you know everything was OK without ever having to ask them directly.

And your passive/aggressive behavior really calls into question the type of human being you are anyway. You create a post thinking that you are asking a simple question, but you don't want the ridicule that comes along with the absurdity of its content. Then when someone calls into question your motives, you bash them for it. You don't seem to be responsible enough about your subject matter or potential victims you have accused, and yet you want everyone to treat you gently because you can't take any criticism about the humans you not so innocently set up in the first place.

Crazy was kind enough to let you know how out of line you were about my suggestions. You complain about the potential disasters of seeing more frequently reviewed providers or those who practices you question. I suggest utilizing the safest methods possible (although I forgot the surgical mask). And all you can do is criticize it. Isn't that why you showed up here in the first place? To be safe?

Since you don't have any reviews or have not been WhiteListed, no provider knows your history. Providers should be thinking that any potential client by the name of Bye is in a higher risk category. Or is that your alias? Which makes you a gutless twit.

-- Modified on 7/29/2012 12:27:43 AM

bestbye 303 reads
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There is only one person who has responded to my question with the sort of pompous, accusatory nonsense that "distinguishes" your postings.
Oh, let me think: Yes, THAT'S YOU!!

Raceday21 7 Reviews 266 reads
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I want to especially thank the ladies for their candid comments.  I am a newbie to all this and on occasion travel to New York and this whole discussion was VERY helpful for me and again, Ladies, thank you for your input!!!!!

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