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If you hobby long enough this is bound to happen. No sense in getting in a twist about it though. Chock it up to a learning experience.  

If you want to walk away, you don't need to get confrontational. You just politely say "your pictures are not representational" and you leave. I know that easier said than done when you are all horned up and don't have a back up plan.

I've seen a couple of providers that had good reviews, but I ended up being less than thrilled with the experience. Could be an off day or sometimes you just don't click. It happens, it sucks, but take some comfort in knowing it's pretty much happened to all of us at some point in time.

Hello All-
I'd like to discuss a pretty delicate subject... The Bait and Switch. I don't hobby much and try to stick with the few providers that I click with, but every now and again I'll step out for something new and try a different provider that is getting great reviews and has nice photos. This was the situation this week, and I was greeted by a woman who was clearly NOT the woman in the photos (though they were listed on her profile as "accurate"), but I went through a bit of effort to get to her, so I thought that I'd stick around and see how it played out. It was a disaster. She was pretty enough and a nice enough person, but there was nothing REMOTELY about her that was similar to the pics or reviews in action or appearance. Who was she? And who was getting those reviews? I ultimately was laying there stewing over the fact that she pretty much robbed me of several hundred dollars. I could not maintain wood and left completely unsatisfied. I am NOT comfortable calling people liars and scam artists, etc.. , but is there etiquette for this situation besides getting really confrontational? I try to play by the rules, provide screening info, show up on time and respect the clock, but isn't it a 2 way street? In my opinion, the WHOLE hobby is built on TRUST... When that get's blown, it makes it hard on everyone. I'm even reticent to write a poor review, as she has all my personal info, and anyone that clearly lied like that, can't be trusted to not do something stupid.  
I'm really interested to hear from people that have had this situation happen to them, as well as any women providers who can advise on how to handle the situation from their perspective. I know MANY do not use their own pics, but I'm trusting the reviews and the pics.. and still it's not enough.

Thoughts??
Thanks!!

NawtyRunner91 reads

If your are truly dissatisfied with the experience AND you believe she's being deliberately deceptive, you should write a review. That's one of the reasons this board exists.  

Believe me, if you did something to piss her off, she wouldn't hesitate to put you on a blacklist.

If you hobby long enough this is bound to happen. No sense in getting in a twist about it though. Chock it up to a learning experience.  

If you want to walk away, you don't need to get confrontational. You just politely say "your pictures are not representational" and you leave. I know that easier said than done when you are all horned up and don't have a back up plan.

I've seen a couple of providers that had good reviews, but I ended up being less than thrilled with the experience. Could be an off day or sometimes you just don't click. It happens, it sucks, but take some comfort in knowing it's pretty much happened to all of us at some point in time.

It’s certainly not okay for people to bait and switch and I can definitely understand you not wanting to pay/leave.  

In my opinion, the appropriate way to handle the situation is to just say that you need to leave and would not like to go through with the session. I would give maybe a portion of the donation (say $50-100) and call it a day. Saying her photos are not real may lead to her getting defensive, confrontational, or trying to convince you to stay.  

I am by no means the subject area expert on these situations because I’ve never had this happen... since my photos are 100% me

most of them are probably with agency, even when they advertise as indy. I will say you don't need to see her if she's not the person in the picture, maybe just give her a little donation to compensate her travel or hotel?! I am sorry it happened to you. as for writing a review about it, you might have to use alias to prevent retaliation after she/the agency see it.

Some women and agencies use provider profiles like a franchise.  They will use different girls under say, the name “Janice”, and you never know which girl you’re gonna get from date to date. To me, this is scam-ish.  

It’s one thing for a well known provider to use reasonably similar photos who aren’t her, but this is bait and switch, in your case.  

Write a review and be honest about everything. That’s why TER exists.

Carry a nice gift (as you should anyway) chocolate at least Godiva level or something like nice bodyorks (Sabon, etc). Then if it's a bait & switch, give the gift, call her out on the switch and leave. Independents and agencies do it banking on you being too horny and/or intimidated to leave. I have zero tolerance for it. Will most likely terminated the date based on vibe it creates and principal even if she's beautiful.

Years ago I waited for a woman who ended up arriving nearly 3 hours late stuck in traffic, etc. To her credit, she was great staying in touch but arrived looking NOTHING like her pics. It was her but a good 40 pounds heavier and older. Also reaked of way too much perfume. Knowing I couldn't go through with it, copped developing a headache...probably stress related while waiting 3 hours and cancelling remaining plans for the evening (that part true). Then proceeded to give her the gift of Marie Belle chocolates I had for her. She (not wanting to be confrontational as well?) feigned being ok with me canceling. Then sends me email next day that she was keeping my $150 deposit. Citing that although late she travelled from afar and kept me posted where I confirmed still wanting her to follow through. Could have at that point let her know the real reasons for my cancellation being the misrepresentation of far from current pics and overpowering awful perfume. Also not looking to hurt her feelings when she arrived...but I didn't need things to escalate. Not to mention risk of needlessly being blacklisted. Just chalked one up for experience. Get THIS: it's a good 12 years later and she's sporadically back on Eros. Pics now posted look like what I opened the door to back then and describes herself now as a BBW. Question is: she's still posting old pics that looks like she did when I saw her. Maybe she's now beyond being a "BBW"  Regardless, I'm not about to call het over to find out - lol

Ask Andrea Sugar!!!  
Do you ever read the LA discussion board?  
There is a thread about Andrea Sugar who is a former provider and now an escort concierge. She has hot girlfriends in NYC (plus LA and OC) who you you would probably love! Send her an email for specific deets. :). She can introduce you to one of her 10/10 friends!!!  No bait and switch will ever happen with her!!!
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Don't give her a "gift" don't get into an argument, don't give her a "cancellation fee", and most importantly DO NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR.  

 
She knows she's lying, no need to do or say anything more than, "I am sorry, I was expecting someone else" or "Excuse me, I am obviously at the wrong place" or simply say nothing at all and just turn around and walk away without a word. If a Nigerian scammer were to target you, would you feel the need to "apologize" for not being a willing victim? Why do so many people reward women for trying to cheat them?

 
And yes, this has happened to me several times over the years. It's not a very high percentage, but the longer you do this and the more ladies you see, it's bound to happen from time to time.

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