Question for the gentlemen:  Pictures or words?  I'm doing a new website and I think I"ve been spending too much time writing copy for the Welcome and About Me pages.

How important are the words in the "About Me" section of a website in making your decision about a provider?  On  Eros and City Vibe ads there's copy about how she has "silky smooth skin, perfect breasts" etc.  Do you really read what we write about ourselves, our backgrounds and our interests.  Or do you go straight to the Photos section?  

There is no right or wrong, there are however different markets.

If you are focused on one hour appointments at a price under $400 an hour, and would like to see multiple people a week for shorter dates, then pictures and reviews are most important.

If you want the dinner date market (4+ hours per date), long term arrangements or want to charge high hourly rates, want to see fewer people for longer engagements or want to enter the long term arrangement market, then words will matter a lot.

Shorter dates do not require the same level of personal compatibility that longer ones do.  People in a position to spend high amounts of money are likely high level business people and as such will be more demanding of a "high thinker", and will look for evidence of that in text.

Think long and hard about what type of dates you are most interested in and develop your strategy from there. Also remember that the LTA, dinner date and high patronage market require a longer investment of time, they're for people who intend to be around for a while. If your looking to throw in the towel sooner rather than later, the shorter dates for an accessible patronage are the way to go.

99% of guys don't care about a provider's zodiac sign, or her absurd "Gift page".

The words might not even matter at all, honestly.  All we really want to know is how you look, what you charge, and what you offer--to be absolutely frank.

Talk is cheap.  And a picture is worth a thousand words...but only if the picture is really of you, and really representative.

I look at the writing first, the pictures second (don't get me wrong, I do drool over the pictures).  I find that a well written blog or website will generally portend a connection which mere pictures obviously will not convey.  I am not referring to descriptions of attributes, but more substantive descriptions of a lady's interests or philosphy.  I think quite a number of the members of the board are seeking an intellectual as well as physical bond.  Also, on the physical level,  it helps to know how broadminded a lady may be so that one can have a sense of physical compatability, as everyone has different interests and needs; this can only be described (well, it can be depicted as well but it is seldom the case that one advertises in such a bold manner).  On the other hand, I suspect that some of the more Neanderthal members of the board will completely disagree, so as Lauren eloquently states, it all depends on which part of the market you are seeking to entice.

The words are a lot.  I good "about me" means something to me.  It can give you a since of the lady and how you may get along.  But seriously the appearance and menu are what I think most hobbyist go for.  I love to sit and chat with a lady but I would not pay 600 per hour to do so.  Great pics will capture the mans eye.  Men are visual creatures and we respond to a woman's beauty, really it is in our DNA.  Now all the politically correct people can get upset, LOL....

I loved words. I love to sing them and speak them and even now,
I must admit, I have fallen into the joy of writing them. (Anne Rice)

The beauty of having a blog, from my experience, is that it draws in people who are compatible with my interests. As such my overall experience as a provider is improved considerably.

I find that ladies who can weave a tapestry with the written word are often people who just love to write. I'm flattered you like my writing... But truth be told my Introduction and Blog are as much about having fun with my favourite hobby (writing) as they are about trying to impress the right gents.

You are  back on the scene but most recent review is 17 months old.   A lot changes in that amount of time, honey.  New pics and reviews.   Can't wait to see your new material and best to you.

I love writing, but I hate writing about myself.  And somethings are too impossible for me to put into words.  Like, how do you capture the magic that happens when two people connect?  Everything I come up with is corny or hokey.  Plus, an experience is just that, something you have to live, not something you read about.  And if you could experience me fully through my written word, why see me?  Exactly, you still need the experience of feeling me, smelling me, tasting me, hearing my voice and enjoying how I respond to experiencing you.

Of course, pictures matter.But: not naked, please. I want to be sensuously seduced, by pictures and then by you.

But text is very important. Examples: One lady finishes: "and now you are calling me...". Another, refering to cancellations: "Don't make me beautify myself for nothing". Eventually wit and charme are decisive, when the pictures, the reviews and the price are in range. And please: wrong grammar or spelling are deadly.On that basis I almost always get a wonderful lady.

Hi Jessica, liked your response, your pictures, your reviews, would love to see you! But tell 411:"Hobbies: too many to list, not: to many to list".

Writing was absolutely the deciding factor which led me to my ATF of 3 years now... I started persusing this board in 2004 (Different, now retired username...). This was before she even became a provider, she appeared circa 2008. I found myself happening to notice her posts here and enjoying what she had to say and how she said it. Very genuine and unique, funny as hell to boot. My kind of crazy. So...I finally dove in late 2009 and we have enjoyed quite the intense, and at times tumultuous, relationship.

It's been invigorating, self revealing, and rewarding. It's nice when someone knows what really makes you tick. She reads me like a book, it's hysterical actually; I cannot be evasive with her; she nails me to the wall. So we have this symbiosis going on, and it's certainly a genuine friendship to say the least.; although, I'd be lying if I didn't say it comes with a unique set of complications. But hey, you can choose to actually live, or just exist...IOW...it's worth it.

I'm most certainly the odd man out for the most part from what I gather here. It seems most find variety satisfying, whereas I really dig depth.

We're human first, no?


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All "we" really want to know?

A picture in this milieu does not necessarily lead into any insight of the mind. Therefore it isn't even worth a sentence, let alone a thousand words. The finest porcelain dolls are cold as ice.

Now if personality isn't your cup o' tea, because all you're seeking is a physical engagement, that's fine...but don't assume that goes for everyone.

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Indeed something that illusive can be hard to capture, but the great authors have done it! However, we cannot complete with those brilliant creative souls who paint so beautifully with words they are etched into stone.

What we can do through the written word is give an intimation of that experience, give a gentle whiff like soft perfume that makes the craving for the full experience set in. Pictures can only reveal physical beauty, but cannot tell a man where her spirit lies and if the man wants magic, not just the satisfaction of primal need, he will need to know who the sorcerers are. Reviews don't share that information, they are not allowed to go beyond the obvious. Pictures speak only of the flesh.  In an ocean full if beautiful women, it is often the words who lead the treasure hunters to their precious finds.

some girls don't write the crap on the site themselves (have others write it), and some girls plagiarize/lift the verbiage from other girls.  The trite crap posted on provider sites is rubbish.  And forget blogs.

How wonderful to have found such delight!

We are always human first.  Many people are afraid to feel, and pretend they don't want to, don't care, or don't believe it's a fantasy for the whimsical because they never have.

The boards are a very loud minority, and do not accurately reflect the mindset out there. The vast majority do not post. No one is disappointed to find that connection, every now and again even those not looking will stumble into it.

Were it not for gents like you, many ladies would have left a long time ago. Some of us are also patiently seeking the ineffable.

the ads on eros are written by who know who and are such total bs, they are annoying - imagine the russian, ukranian, or other non-english speaking woman posting an ad that has no connection to her lanaguage or lack of english, plus adds the words "be gentle on my english" in her ad -

keep the ad short and simple - make the pictures gravitating - save the words for emails, but confirm by voice that the person writing you is the person you are considering meeting -

Too funny isn't it? Predictable as migratory birds, the lot.

The oblique condemnation is based in fear. It's resultant of a willfully stunted psyche due to the fear of intimacy. Nevertheless, to chase the white rabbit has it's share of risk, and even if one is careful, it's still quite possible to get lost in a sea of relativism.

Now patience; it isn't actually a consistent virtue of mine...

Always something to work on!

Personality isn't something that I find you can get a good sense of in reading some words on a webpage.  That's something that comes across in emails and dynamic/active communication back and forth.

And that's something I obviously look for in a provider, but if her pics are not up to snuff...no way I am going to even to that point.

But if you think that you can figure out a girl's personality from words on a static webpage that she spent time on and was able to craft instead of just actively/dynamically communicating with you via email, text or phone ON THE FLY, then either you are delusional or just have some extrasensory powers that the rest of us don't have.

The only real way to get an idea of personality and connection BEFORE actually meeting with a provider is to communicate with her in real time--via email, PM, text, phone, etc.

Any person can hire someone to craft some words on a static webpage.  That's like having a whole month to write a paper.  Anyone can come up with something.  Even the most boring provider can sound great on paper if her bio and words have been crafted to give you that impression.

But communicate with a provider via email or on the phone, and you will see her personality come out.  She won't have time to spend time crafting words...it's gonna show how she is in real life.

And for me...I prefer to have some good communication with a provider before I see her.  Any provider can claim to be "intelligent," but the ones who really are...you will figure that out pretty quickly when interacting with her.

You're right, we have our whole careers to tweak our written introduction. I touch mine up every year or two.  Ultimately what I have written down was composed over 12 years, using communications, feedback and contemplation to guide the path my words would take.

Spontaneous communication, on the other hand, cannot be so carefully refined.

And it works both ways. I state openly on my website contact page that I appreciate exchanging a few missives before meeting. The reasons are as you stated, their true self will come through within a few correspondences.  In some occasions I've developed harmless crushes before meeting, because the exchange of communication was invigorating, fun and unique.

I have long said that the best security check on a gent is a 20 min phone conversation.

Personality can be deduced from multiple sources.

You can see it in a web page, even better, as you say, is dynamic communication. Yup, you do need to seperate the wheat from the chaff. However, something that is crafted versus spontaneously dynamic will still tell you something. If the effort is genuine, it's to be appreciated. Not everyone parses at the same speed.

You outline a delusion via assumption as if it was my inference; that is incorrect; it was not. It also belies absolutist (B&W) thinking. Call it a straw man; some use such vehicles in conversation to establish their frame of reference. It most certainly represents a static perception versus an on the fly approach to interaction, simply because the impression made is of being pre-determined.

What some may describe as "extra-sensory," others may call, "paying attention to the little things...."

Stop and smell the flowers sometime.


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Where is there reward without risk? There is an ancient saying, every heart needs to be a little bit broken to let the light flood in.

Sometimes the adventure brings us vivacious people, and unforgettable adventures. Sometimes we find an Absolem. On rare occasion we must fend off a Jabberwocky. However, if fear of friction keeps us from seeing the rabbit, we have lost our muchness.

Expert sailors are not born on calm waters. The world is full of ambrosia, hidden like gems, waiting for the fearless to discover the ecstasy therein - fleeting, powerful, inenarrable.

12 years composing something delivers a message as well. the signs of constant refinement have their own unique charms.

Of course one has to have the acumen to appreciate such.

Where is the line that seperates the hardy, and fearless, from the fool?

Sometimes it's just luck twixt the two...and away I go with the fancy flights of relativism.

A broken heart can teach many things, (Like the blues..) but only if mended by the wisdom of temperance. Some time ago I had to decide to let life temper me versus harden me. I still struggle to this day. The implication is something that sometimes is struck with purpose, and that can be pain. Why temper if not to seek out the blows again? Some may say I'm a sucker, but the pleasure of it! It's love. Even the jabberwocky, just smoke a hookah and enjoy the rhythm.



I've spent millions of miles on the ocean...90 foot swells in The Bering Sea, 120+ degrees fahrenheit in the middle of the Indian Ocean- the lightning storms!!! Humbling and awe inspiring it was, at night the stars...nothing you'll ever see from land can compare to the stars, when you look up. It's heaven.

During the day, approaching Japan, I used to stare to the horizon, the cumulus clouds formed such a magnificent parade that if you just let go, the horizon would disappear, and it would seem a cotton archipelago launching into the distance. My lover, she does live by the sea, and is as tempestuously beautiful. Her siren song pushes me to break from the mast, casting myself into the sea drowning upon her shoals, over and over again.

Yet, your parley quickens me.

Once a sailor, always a sailor.

lmao

They are but different facets of the same stone!

Temperance is a life long practice, like meditation. It requires the abilty to step back, to conquer the mind, so that peace and wisdom can rest on our shoulder until they take flight again.   Life is sand slipping between our fingers, we are just lucky that there is always more to pick up.

I envy seeing the stars from the ocean, especially the southern hemisphere. Looking into eternity, seeing the distant past laid out like a braille pad of diamonds, waiting to be read.

I was born a wench

I'm sure you're the muse of many a fine shanty as well!

To conquer the mind, at behest of the loins, is the struggle I speak of as a Scorpio and sailor, enchanté. I'm struggling quite positively gravely at the moment, peace and wisdom seem be taking flight most welcomely. February...

To gaze upon the Southern Hemisphere's night sky is to look upon the darkest of Tyrian purple cloaks. A blanket for warming dreams of possibilities. It is beset by the most infinitely sublime, whorling, distant-scintillation. It is reflected, sometimes close aboard, by the roiling water's thunderous breach, serving to punctiliously remind one of the sometimes trepidatious nature of such journeys.

To read you with my hands; such a wench you are...reeling me in!

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Are sexy

I would never put words in your mouth or anyone else's mouth.  Seems you're a bit sensitive on this subject, no?

Since I am going to be seeing the woman in real-time, I want to know how she reacts in REAL TIME.  In the space of an hour or two, I don't have time to let her think about what she wants to say...I want to see how she is going to talk and interact while we are together, and dynamic interaction, I have found, works best for that.

Please don't assume I don't stop and smell the flowers, just because I don't stop and smell them the same way you do.  Figuratively speaking, I might smell them and in five seconds figure out whether I like them or not.  You might be the kind of person smelling them all day, instead.

Different strokes.  Don't get bent outta shape.

Because FOR ME (I have to clarify this, because a person who replied to your very post on this thread gets things a bit confused at times about this), it always develops in these steps:

1.  First, I am attracted purely through physical beauty.  If she isn't physically attractive, nothing else happens.

2.  Second, I am attracted when we have sexual chemistry.  I love to DATY, and if a provider loves to receive it and is sincere about it (no faking), then that's one way we might really connect.

3.  Third, I am attracted when I realize she and I have common interests.

4.  Fourth, I am attracted when I find her personality interesting.  This might lead to extended sessions and/or dinner dates and overnights.

In that sense, it's not really that different than dating in real life.

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An "About Me" section can be usefull, as long as the information is relevant and to the point. Some gentleman will, unless posted elsewhere, care to read about what you like so they can bring you a special gift they know you will enjoy, some will be happy with just some basic stats, while others will simply want to look at pics, rates to find out if they are attracted to you and can afford you.

I see no reason why you can't have a simple, concise "About Me" section in the beginning and then a "Photo" section for those more interested in the visual aspects. If you decide to type out your "About Me" section, just don't make it read like a cheesy Fabio romance novel.