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Dr35 1945 reads
posted
1 / 22
Provider rate, helping or hurting...

With complete respect to everyone, and with the obvious "to each his/her own" freedom of choice... a completely honest and legitimate question: At what donation rate do you think a provider actually loses business? It has been my experience, and that of countless friends I've surveyed, that ladies who climb to the 7, 8, and 900 range will most likely lose business and be picked far less often than those who choose to stay at the 5 or 6 tier, irrespective of beauty, personality, or performance. From a genuine business perspective, do providers know that hobbyists, rich or poor, would have seen them so much more often if they didn't go for the big time?

FTMZacharyPrince See my TER Reviews 829 reads
posted
2 / 22
do you realize that...

...higher pricing is often an intentional move on the behalf of a provider who actually DESIRES to see less clients?

Seeing half the clients at double the rate is just plain preferable to seeing double the clients at half the rate, for quite a lot of us.

And just a note: there's literally NO SUCH THING as "irrespective of beauty, personality, or performance" "from a genuine business perspective".  These factors do in reality affect the level of demand for our companionship.  You simply can't disregard them in any accurate analysis.

Higher pricing undoubtedly cuts out sections of the market from choosing to book our/their services.  But some ladies prefer to see only one or two clients a month.  Some only one or two a day.  Some only one or two a week.  Every one of us personally considers our rates against the level of demand for our time and our personal desires for how many clients we prefer to meet in a given period of time.

Men who ask questions like yours make me scratch my head and wonder, "what exactly do you think we ladies are?"  Do you seriously think that we all do this full time as our only/primary pursuit in life and would prefer to maximize the number of men that we meet with per day/week/month?  Or can you wrap your mind around the idea that we are actual human beings and thus every single one of us is different, with vastly varying life circumstances, free time available, and introvert/extrovert capacities in terms of how many men we can genuinely offer our undivided attention to each day/week/month?

And if you can wrap your mind around the fact that some of us would genuinely prefer to see only one or two gentlemen per week, then hopefully you understand enough about business to draw the connection between that desire and charging above-market rates.  In a city like NYC, a beautiful lady with a great personality, compelling marketing and above-average service receives far more than one or two inquiries a week if she is charging market-average rates.

I hope this assists you in understanding our realities.

Sincerely~
a provider with a $1200 minimum who still receives as much business as I desire

-- Modified on 11/28/2016 2:07:30 AM
Related Link: http://ZoeyZacquery.com

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 471 reads
posted
3 / 22
For some of those ladies ... less(er) volume with high(er) end rates IS the point. ...

edit: heh should've read Zoey's response before posting. She nailed it and buried it lol.

-- Modified on 11/28/2016 3:02:01 PM

JoeMc 78 Reviews 509 reads
posted
4 / 22
don't see the point

it's been discussed several times before here-  its a free market with lots of choices at all different price points-  as the provider stated above, maybe the particular provided only wants a few appointments at the higher rate-  if the provided is getting as many appointments as she likes, she can probably figure out on her own to lower her price-  but I don't see any reason to for me to worry about what they choose to ask for- sure there are some providers that I would see if they were at a lower rate, but they can choose to ask for what they want, and I can choose to see them or someone else

Waterclone 78 Reviews 536 reads
posted
5 / 22
ROTFLMAO!!! No no no no no. Stop begging.

You surveyed your friends.  That's so cute.  You asked a bunch of guys if they stop seeing women who raise their rates.  HAHAHAHAHA

Women who raise their rates lose the cheap clients and gain new, richer clients.

Some guys only look at women who charge $1k or more.

"From a genuine business perspective, do providers know that hobbyists, rich or poor, would have seen them so much more often if they didn't go for the big time?"

And if they charged $100 guys would see them more often still.  Maybe they should do that?

Did it not occur to you that if your theory were true then none of the expensive providers would have clients and everyone would charge $100?

Your use of the phrase "From a genuine business perspective" is laughable because clearly you know nothing about business.  Any economist will tell you the smart move is to raise your rates as long as people keep paying.  If you raise your rates so high that you stop making the money you want, then you make a change.  Either lower your rate again, or do something to market yourself better at the new rate.  

When you come down to it, your post is nothing more that a cheap or poor hobbyist begging for a discount.

Oriana See my TER Reviews 437 reads
posted
6 / 22
Agreed

I agree 100%.  I think that going to high in donation requests can deter any client or at least limit the frequency of visits.  If a provider's prices are within a more manageable range and it's not a matter of finances for the client (and the gentleman is happy) then let him give extra if he should so choose.

Related Link: http://OrianaLaPrimera.com

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 441 reads
posted
7 / 22
Agree, what upsets me that if I would say the same - and I always DO

Posted By: Waterclone
You surveyed your friends.  That's so cute.  You asked a bunch of guys if they stop seeing women who raise their rates.  HAHAHAHAHA  
 Very accurate and bold..

 
Just upset - that when I am saying differences between sex service and escorting - which even reflected in TER disclaimer-  
Then I am just harassed.  

So I am very glad to read this post of Waterclone
Related Link: http://pavliena.com

Pavliena See my TER Reviews 556 reads
posted
8 / 22
That is why my dates are now do look as an arrangements and I do not



-- Modified on 11/28/2016 8:11:24 PM

Related Link: http://pavliena.com

MidAgedCEO 14 Reviews 551 reads
posted
9 / 22
We agreed Waterclone is a WK loser, who's opinion is neither respected or welcomed by either

When a guy needs to fight another woman's battle, you are not a hero but a sap and loser.  Might want to check you man card before entering any place.

2nd.... Apparently when a lady mentioned how "busy" she still is while charging 1200, yet still have time to come and post a long worded defense of such, maybe you're not really all that busy ...

But I agree that rate is justified, must cost a fortune to do all that photo surgery and touch up what you really look like.  Maybe you should bring back your old BP photos for nostalgia, so everyone can see what you look like without that photo surgery you employ ?

Ipdailey 340 reads
posted
10 / 22
Re: your back again the midaged CEO oooo noooooo

Your the one who doesnt think spending some $$$ won't buy you the Intimatcy some of us like.. I heard that you can get a bbcimbj at the Lincoln tunnel from a crack ho for your preferred budget of $20 !!! Please go to backpage again for your shopping.
Ipissed on you again :)))))

Posted By: MidAgedCEO
When a guy needs to fight another woman's battle, you are not a hero but a sap and loser.  Might want to check you man card before entering any place.  
   
 2nd.... Apparently when a lady mentioned how "busy" she still is while charging 1200, yet still have time to come and post a long worded defense of such, maybe you're not really all that busy ...  
   
 But I agree that rate is justified, must cost a fortune to do all that photo surgery and touch up what you really look like.  Maybe you should bring back your old BP photos for nostalgia, so everyone can see what you look like without that photo surgery you employ ?

zorrf 306 reads
posted
11 / 22
I really try not to give that much of a fuck

Providers' back office operations don't concern me.  And I'm glad it doesn't, because obsessing over it seems tedious.  Would much rather hand over the money and enjoy myself.

HelenaWest See my TER Reviews 319 reads
posted
12 / 22
There's more to life than $$$

Classic cishetwhite dude econ. There are many reasons for rates. Intentional bottlenecking. "I'll only go into bed with someone for this much," "I have a day job I love but if some dude wants to wine dine and tango with me for X.. well... Consider me persuaded.." "I"m busy but I like meeting interesting people who subsidize my free time," etc.

Posted By: Dr35
With complete respect to everyone, and with the obvious "to each his/her own" freedom of choice... a completely honest and legitimate question: At what donation rate do you think a provider actually loses business? It has been my experience, and that of countless friends I've surveyed, that ladies who climb to the 7, 8, and 900 range will most likely lose business and be picked far less often than those who choose to stay at the 5 or 6 tier, irrespective of beauty, personality, or performance. From a genuine business perspective, do providers know that hobbyists, rich or poor, would have seen them so much more often if they didn't go for the big time?
Related Link: http://helenawest.com

Waterclone 78 Reviews 388 reads
posted
13 / 22
Try to imagine how little I care about your opinion.

First of all, White Knights are the heroes of the stories.  The people who don't like White Knights are, invariably, the bad guys.  

Fight a woman's battles???  He didn't even mention a specific woman in the post.  Which woman's battle do you think I am fighting?

I just hate losers begging for discounts.  Guys like that are the reason the word "hobbiest" has a negative connotation.

If someone is too poor for this hobby then maybe they should try collecting comics instead and leave this hobby to people who can afford it.

-- Modified on 11/30/2016 1:11:30 PM

shus 25 Reviews 414 reads
posted
14 / 22
Re: do you realize that...

That is nothing short of a thoughtful, insightful post.

Kikiloverkink See my TER Reviews 362 reads
posted
15 / 22
The more You charge the less clients you'll see.

I feel like the Rates You charges and how many clients you'll meet go hand and hand together. For someone like me who isn't GFE and only charges 250, I'd have to see two clients a day to make 500. But the girls who charge way more, only see one client and that will be enough for the day. But me because I am an average rate not too cheap and not too expensive I feel like I'd get more calls then a 500$ girl who half the men can't even afford.

ExoticX See my TER Reviews 357 reads
posted
16 / 22
Next discussion question - do WK losers get more pussy?

I'm genuinely curious about this one. While I would suspect (from primarily anecdotal evidence I must admit) that most bitter woman haters usually harbor such toxic feelings as a result of habitual rejection or begrudging acquiescence from the opposite sex, I wonder if the so-called White Knights of the board are, by contrast, receiving more frequent and more enthusiastic erotic adventures on behalf of the ladies.  

Inquiring minds want to know...

~Mme X~
Related Link: The Mystery of Madame X

ExoticX See my TER Reviews 344 reads
posted
17 / 22
Boom. *mic drop*

Zoey, you totally nailed it.  

We ladies are not really in a commodity based business, where we're trying to push as many units as possible onto our consumer base. Thinking of things "from a basic business perspective" without understanding what type of basic business model you're dealing with is sure to lead to failure. Luckily for the guys here - that's *not your job*.

Every girl here is different. As I am not qualified to speak on anyone else's business model, I can only talk about my own (which I'm quite satisfied with, lol) - My hourly rate is fairly standard for my area, however my minimum appointment is several hours. I've never offered hourly appointments. Why would I take a day off from my real job, invest time and money into making arrangements, and all that jazz, for a one hour quickie that barely covers the inconvenience?  

My involvement in this lifestyle is about my personal exploration, pleasure, and indulgence. I enjoy men who feel the same, and not people that are looking to sneak in some random strange side game during their lunch hour. As such, my overnight and longer excursions are priced accordingly, and as a result most of my meetings here have always been overnight or (often much) longer.  

Just a couple of extra considerations to keep in mind when contemplating rates, which men seem to love to do for some reason.

~Mme X~
Related Link: The Mystery of Madame X

MidAgedCEO 14 Reviews 215 reads
posted
18 / 22
Real men take what they want !!!

Yes the WK losers are getting more "action" but once they pay for it.    

But then again if the WK losers are getting "more" freebies... How do you know its not just us guys playing good cop bad cop to fool some of you dumb chicks into offering more.  How do you know you are not being played by the cunning and smarter of the species to get some chick to spread her legs more "thinking" he cares  :)
Maybe he cares about the pussy and just stringing dumb gullible women along ....  who knows right
Or maybe the WK losers should be thanking ppl like us who help get them laid  

You never know because men are smarter and more cunning :)

One should not talk about hate when one has photos with tell-tale signs of OVER Gaussian blur done.   I mean you must really HATE yourself that you need to photo"clean" those ugly parts of you.  Those parts that you so try desperately to Gaussian blur out are the reflection of your inside seeping out, the ugliness that you cannot hide :)

-- Modified on 12/5/2016 4:18:42 AM

Waterclone 78 Reviews 410 reads
posted
19 / 22
We aren't good guys because we think we'll get more pussy out of it.

We are good guys because we have respect for other people.

On this site, the misogynist money is as good as anyone else's money, so we all get exactly as much pussy as we pay for.  

It's completely irrelevant of whether was are nice people or sexist assholes

ExoticX See my TER Reviews 278 reads
posted
20 / 22
That may be your opinion...

Of course I'm not trying to insinuate that men (or anyone of any gender) are only nice because of what they hope they might get out of it. However, getting more by giving more is usually a natural tendency :)  

As far as mysogynist money being as good as anyone else's, I'd add the caveat of context. I again can't speak for all women, but I've turned down several (many?) dates from men who just simply have attitudes I can't tolerate and will not reward while knowing full well that I'm sending their money off with them. This lifestyle is complicated and often consuming, and I find that keeping myself in the company of those I actually enjoy means that I'm able to do better work here.  

Of course, I know that assholes will just move on to find a woman who wants the money regardless, so in that sense you're absolutely right. I listen to women complain about their clients and suffer habitual burnout, and can't help but think that this may be a result of focusing on the money instead of the quality of time spent... however it's not my place to judge, and I hope that I'm not being callous in deciding that's not my problem.

~Mme X~
Related Link: The Mystery of Madame X

ExoticX See my TER Reviews 378 reads
posted
21 / 22
Right... as if we need any more pussy grabbers around here.

Real men *get* what they want. There's a difference there that you might do well to understand. Thinking you have to "take" to "get" implies a mindset that will limit your options overall.

Not that it matters much, but fyi... most of my photos are professionally done and therefore the choice of what filters to use is usually left up to the photographer. Not naming names of course, but many of them consider themselves to be photoshop wizards of some kind and spend more time on after effects than they do on the initial image. The blur often covers for shadows and highlights that might not have blended properly when the light / color channels are adjusted.  

I usually request no photoshop, but some photographers are touchy about that for some reason, and plus then I have the hassle of going through thousands of raw images to see what's what (I never get around to that anymore).

... and beyond that, who the fuck cares what you think.  

~Mme X~
Related Link: The Mystery of Madame X

YBenL 97 Reviews 374 reads
posted
22 / 22
Is First Class or Business Class airfare JFK LAX too expensive?

It depends on what the passengers and the airlines are willing to work out and what they are looking for right?

I don't see a wait list to downgrade to economy class from first class ticket; most of the time folks want to save up or use points/status to upgrade to the next class.

And for those who fly private jets, it is not worth flying first/business class no?

Further, imagine flying on a private jet with your ATF to a destination just for the weekend?

So it all depends what all involved are fiscally and physically able and willing to do

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