we satisfy human desires and needs?  What self-righteous person said that we have to suppress our natural and normal instincts in favor of “rules”?  Among the answers to those questions could the “Smut Fighting Grandmas of the World”.  There are other answers to those questions that should probably remain unspoken in this forum.  Personally, I think that it goes against human and animalistic behavior to be mandated to one mate…”till death do you part”.  Your mate might be like a Sears Die Hard Battery!  LOL, therefore you get nothing else until she dies…..and YOU might die first!  LMAO now.  It took me a while to get here because I fell into the same teachings too.  So we legislate and relegate ourselves to be with ONE mate from an early age (sometimes while still in high school) till death do we part?!?!?!?  Bullshit!  Otherwise some of us mentally deprive ourselves; and accordingly, physically too.  Making what could be a dissertation shorter, phucking someone else does not translate into loving your life’s-chosen partner less!  Who invented that damn “adultery” word anyway??

I’m going to heaven…….and I hope to visit with the friends that I’ve met in the business when I get there!  St. Peter can think about the references to HIS name after I educate him about that too!  LOL

I’m still awaiting the ass-wipe who responded to a previous thread of mine; stating that he could not be married to a woman who engaged in this “hobby”.  Yet he was here on TER…..and for what?  Perhaps it was to “de-virginize” the kind of woman that he will not pledge himself to be faithful till death do he part!?  Was the goal to mess up the gene-pool for others who think like he does?  The thought pattern is among the ultimate hypocrisies that there could be.  Just because we choose to give an extended “hand-shake” to each other has Nothing to do with how we interact and protect our real relationships.  I hope that he tries to make an appointment!

Now gentlemen and ladies:

Do you feel guilty after an appointment?  If so, then why?

Do you feel that as long as you take care of business in your personal lives, that you’ve been disloyal?

Can you believe that if some men manually stimulate themselves through completion, are considered unfaithful by their wives??!!??!!??  Can you believe that shyt?

What is wrong with continuing the meaning of what they used to call “swap meets” in the olden days?  I have to somewhat agree that deception is a tough way to go, but if one must deceive, then there is another and different problem.

I have more questions, but hopefully they may be answered in the context of this long post of mine.  I would appreciate that.

This really is getting long, but I am really very curious to learn opinions and thoughts.  This is by far my most realistic and confrontational posts.  Therefore aliases are accepted now more than ever.

Pretty deep questions!!!! I don't feel guilty most of the time, though there has been a few times I have felt some regrets of my actions. I try to be a good family person first, then when I have free time, I have enjoyed the company of many of the ladies of the evening or lunchtime from the Twin Cities and TER.I believe my better half knows about some of my rendezvous's with you sexy ladies, but has not confronted me, maybe she has her own adventures going on????? I definitely don't feel guilty about pleasuring myself!!!!! Thank you ladies for spending time with this horny guy.

Awwww Marie, why'd ya hafta get all philosophical on us? You've raised some excellent issues and I'm trying to think how to respond without getting into too much of a religious discussion. I think your questions deserve responses.
From the most liberal to the most conservative, religious activists judge what we do as immoral, but for different reasons. Forget the Ten Commandments and the 7 Deadly Sins; what God really hates are 3 simple things: when we lie; when we're unkind to one another and when we judge others. I often think of those anti-homosexual rallies where you see people carrying signs that say things like: "God Hates Gays!!" Really? I've had a lot of education in the Christian faith and I've been through the Old and New Testaments more than once and I've never seen that passage. In fact, my faith tells me that IF homosexual activity is a sin then God loves the sinner as much as the one who doesn't engage in that particular sin.
Anyway, to answer the other question you posed;
Fuck NO!! I don't feel guilty after sex. I feel alive! I feel energized! I feel cleansed! I feel happy! I feel like I never want to wash my face again! I want to brag to my buddies, "Hey, you won't believe who I just had sex with!" I want to write a poem! I want to get all excited again as I relive the encounter as I'm writing the review!
Thanks, Marie, for your provacative post.

DS

Because there isn't one.

No Santa Claus or Easter Bunny either.  

The great upside to this is that there is no such thing as hell either.  You get one ride on this roller coaster, then yer done.

Perhaps I should have posed...."Wanna fuck"?

Well spoken sir.  At least you're honest.  I like that.

it is about morality or the majority in my personal idiology.

Laws are made and changed by the moral majority and they don't get changed until people break those laws and it gets reevaluated by the moral majority.

Race, ethnicity, roe vs wade, gay rights, it is all moral majority.

Morality controls our own emotions as well.  Such as your friend that says he could not marry a provider.  For him his honesty is he can be a hobbyist, maybe freinds of a provider, but not married to one.  Is he wrong or a hypocrit, I think that is debatable for everyone.

My own comfort level says that I am more comfortable having intimate relations with ladies that are NOT friends of the family, to me that is a morality that fits my comfort level.  I feel this way for myself and my wife as equals.

Thus having swinging friends would be far more difficult for me to handle emotionally.

I do not feel guilty for participating in the hobby or about having a civvie one night stand with a stranger(lady) I met in a bar.  Now sleeping with my wife's best friend or sister would give me great guilt.

For me having social seperation allows me no guilt.  If I have friendships that turn intimate it provides the possibility that that situation could turn emotional and threaten the family life I work hard every day to protect.

That is my .02.

Amen brother.

I am a single guy, however I do date and have had some multi-year relationships.  That hasn't prevented me from hobbying.  I still do it but yes there is some guilt.  The guilt is driven by the pain it would cause my partner to know of my behavior.  Despite my desire to participate in this it would be unreasonable for me to expect her to understand.

The only other thing that bothers me is the potential risk of catching something and passing it on.  I play relatively safe but it's impossible to eliminate the risk completely.  That thought gives me moments of pause.

Great post Marie.

My...my....such intelligent responses so far.  I hesitated in hitting the post message button.  Thinking that it was too philosophical and that it would cause cause for those would revert back to the roots of our bringings up.  That was a risk.

Mayhaps it would have been better to ask the simple question:  Why do we like phucking?  I can do that.  Whaddya think?

It took me several yrs to come to the realization that I think we are all about 2-3 generations ahead of our time in thinking this b.s. out. We can love one another.....there can be peace among us......there can be fun without ruining a "relationship".....the judgement of others depriving themselfes of pleasure, peace, and fun in life is there and I wish I could be a much more open and sharing person among friends I know about this subject ! I REALLY wish I could meet and greets and swap situations to mingle with others like Marie !

WoW is right.....I hit the send button before even checking for grammer or spelling on that last post ! I love to phuck because I love to please and imagine/hope the partner I am with has a great and awesome time .........the "higher" my partner gets, the more it gets me off.......

…it feels so darn good!

Now, before I answer your other questions, let me say I will not touch religion at all on this one (I steer clear of the P&R board), but nice try Marie!! Lastly, you and your thought-provoking questions are a mental turn-on.

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1. Do you feel guilty after an appointment? No. I feel several emotions after an appointment, but guilt is not one of them. Sometimes, when the session is truly amazing, I feel disappointed when the gent has to leave. I love companionship and sex just as much as my gentlemen friends and at times I just don’t want the kissing, cuddling, conversation, etc. to end. Alas, we must return to the real world.

Also, I feel happy after an appointment when I know I have truly made a man’s day.

I feel grateful that either I attract and screen such quality gentlemen or I have the best of luck, because I have yet to be attacked.

I feel relieved sexually, as I am low-volume and the tension really builds up in between appointments.

2. Do you feel that as long as you take care of business in your personal lives, that you’ve been disloyal? As long as I am completely honest in my real life about what I do for a living, I do not have such feelings.

3. Can you believe that if some men manually stimulate themselves through completion, are considered unfaithful by their wives? Sadly, I can believe this! I had a boyfriend who thought I was being unfaithful every time I would use my vibrator. Granted I was masturbating to porn or real life people through the online virtual world redlightcenter.com, but I wasn’t really cheating. Maybe if he had just joined in on the fun…Oy!

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Thanks Marie.

Go Vikes!!!

Xoxo,
Giamarie

What! There is no Easter Bunny AND the Pope is catholic!?! Damnit! Well that just screws my weekend. Thanks, thanks a lot.

I think it is ludicrous to be ashamed of or have feelings of guilt for expressing what is a part of our nature.

Doesn't prove they know what they are talking about.

For my part, I long ago decided that it did not make sense that God would reveal THE TRUTH to one person or a small group of people some decades, centuries, or millenia ago.  It's not rational and I believe God must be a rational being.  I think, as with many things, we are a loooooong way from truly understanding God and yes, it is possible as the atheists believe that there is no God.

I think the question regarding monogamy is not one that has only one answer.  To say it is the right way for all is as wrong as to say it is the wrong way for all.

As far as your specific questions go:

"Do you feel guilty after an appointment?  If so, then why?"

I don't feel guilty but there have been occasional times when I have ended up feeling worse afterwards than before.  It's been rare and only when I have seen a basic, no frill provider but I really have no idea why.

"Do you feel that as long as you take care of business in your personal lives, that you’ve been disloyal?"

Does not apply as I have no SO

"Can you believe that if some men manually stimulate themselves through completion, are considered unfaithful by their wives??!!??!!??  Can you believe that shyt?"

In a world where some people believe that if they strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up in the middle of a bunch of civilians that they will go heaven and be rewarded with dozens of virgins, yes that is easy to believe.

"What is wrong with continuing the meaning of what they used to call “swap meets” in the olden days?  I have to somewhat agree that deception is a tough way to go, but if one must deceive, then there is another and different problem."

I don't know what you mean by "swap meet."  Do you mean a swingers party or something like that?  Please explain.

What a great thread! I got rid of my guilt a long time ago. There was a woman I knew from college whom I stayed in touch with after she got married. Her husband, after a few years, decided he didn't want sex (she looks like Heather Locklear) and she didn't want to leave him. so we decided to get together whenever she was in town. No regrets on either part.She hasn't traveled in a few years and lives across the country.

Do I feel guilty? Hell no, I love the touch of a woman , and her soft lips on mine. I feel sad that I don't have more money.

My wife thinks if I take matters into my own hand I am cheating. That is another whole subject.

Spread the love of sex!

It is a phrase used in the olden days (primarily in California).  It is a club (any club) where people go to meet their mates for the weekend.  A pick-up bar.  You go....make eye contact....have your best behavior on.....and go for it between two consenting adults.  A swap meet is vanillally known as a place where people set up booths to sell their wares.  It got "perverted" into this secondary meaning.  LOL

A future thread will be asking how many of you guys have gotten lucky in a bar?  No lies accepted!  Did you know that a woman sitting alone at the bar is asking for company?  Just don't be rude and crude!  Damn, I should be selling tips for you wonderful gentlemen.

Being an escort is, for me, the highest expression of my God given gifts.  He built me the way I am, he gave me a beautiful voice, a pretty face, a talent for making people comfortable and relaxed, and the ability to connect and have fun in a way that is sensual and fulfilling for everyone involved.  Why would I deny those gifts when then bring pleasure to me and to the friends I CHOOSE to spend time with?  That, in my opinion, would be the sin!

I can't speak for anyone else.  There are sadly many women who escort for the money but feel terrible about it at their core.  What type of experience do you think this lends to the experience for their visitors?  I hope that women, and men, who do feel guilt over this hobby can find a way to either forgive themselves and enjoy it, or find a better way to spend their time and money.  

I believe that touch and pleasure is an essential human need, and if you are not receiving that in your life then it is your right if not your responsibility to take care of yourself mentally, emotionally, and physically by seeking out relationships that fulfill that need.  If you keep doing the same thing expecting different results... that is the definition of insanity.  If you are not happy, you need to try something new or different--you owe that to your self, and no one else can do it for you.

I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, and I thank my many friends (and distant admirers) for the many holiday wishes.

XO
Wendy

. . . Need to meet Marie to see if she's even cooler in person. . . .

Enjoy your thought-provoking topics, Marie! Very interesting. Could give us something to talk about between the second or third rounds!

Call it a mid-life crisis, call it a loss of Faith, I'm what the church world calls "backslidden." Yet I don't feel the need to mock God or religion. (Well, maybe I'll mock some of the "religious." What's that bumper sticker? "Lord Jesus, please save me from your followers!" ) I understand religious people, and it makes me a little sad for them. And I feel a little sad for myself that my involvement didn't bring me the "truth" or fulfillment I had hoped it would. I still hold out hope it will somehow, someday, in some way, but certainly not in the way I used to understand it.

What I find interesting about the supposedly non-religious here is the attitude: I don't feel guilty because I have a modern "open" relationship, where my SO doesn't mind my sexual dalliances and I don't mind hers. Or, someone else says, I don't feel guilty because I don't even have an SO. Both are acknowledgments of a moral code (even if it's not a "traditional" religious moral code) and are attempts to justify oneself by adhering to a moral code.

What I'd like to know is how providers here feel about guys in "old-fashioned" relationships. For example, I know I'd catch royal hell if my SO caught me foolin' around. Forget touchy-feely "open" relationships, it would be the end of my life as I know it. Can providers handle a client they know is a straight-up lyin', cheatin', womanizin' bastard, or do they need, somehow, to believe that his SO is OK with his hobbying?

Anyway, I, too, have now probably posted too honestly, but, what the hell. . . .

Whore moans

The devil mad me do it!