that FOSTA/SESTA did cause a bit of an uproar personally, I find that the provider/client dynamic (at least here on TER) got worse after the onset of COVID for numerous reasons. I also think there is a struggle because although both parties (providers and clients) agree that this is a business, there are differing opinions in how these businesses should be operated*.
*re: large swath of clients believing that until this business is legalized (or better yet decriminalized) that screening should be light and/or deposits should be non-existent.-- Modified on 3/29/2022 11:35:07 PM
It is been 6 or 7 years since I have been active here. Please message with recommendations for my return.
As the two you have reviewed are no longer active one of the best ways would be to purchase VIP and read reviews to get the lay of the land. Think the scene has changed significantly since then
Would you say the scene is changed for the better, or the worse? Or just simply that most of the providers are different now?
I started about the time of your reviews . Think with BP you had more choices. For the most part you had massage and FS providers with some massage offering extras. We now have a large segment of massage upgrade providers. The massage was not screening the way they are today and down payments were not demanded/ requested as they are today. On the low end there were no deposits where today a deposit on the low end is usually a scam.
One of the biggest changes IMHO is the mutual DISRESPECT that has caused cancellations on both sides neither seeming in many cases to feel an obligation to uphold the contract.
Many other things but is a start.
Things have changed considerably many girls rates with very little time or reviews is out of control. There are still some reasonable competent providers if you so your homework. Couple of new scams gift card, and deposit scams where they want up front . Putting you at whim of when where and if they show up or deliver.Alot of massage girls that now work out of private residences, vs the old massage parlors that were around. Lots afvfake pics or old and outdated pics asking for alot of money. Standard use to be th one pop, hour 2. Not so true anymore hour one pop then basically get out, new gals dont clean you up anymore either. Not many real professional anymore, its more its all about them. Anyway get VIP and do your homework, be careful as always and you'll be fine.
It really started changing, at least in my observation, after FOSTA/SESTA passed. Overall, there is less respect and more mistrust between clients and providers as a whole.
that FOSTA/SESTA did cause a bit of an uproar personally, I find that the provider/client dynamic (at least here on TER) got worse after the onset of COVID for numerous reasons. I also think there is a struggle because although both parties (providers and clients) agree that this is a business, there are differing opinions in how these businesses should be operated*.
*re: large swath of clients believing that until this business is legalized (or better yet decriminalized) that screening should be light and/or deposits should be non-existent.
-- Modified on 3/29/2022 11:35:07 PM
I think it started way before FOSTA, and several situations happened to make it worse nowadays. I just looked on ER*S, and in MN, there were only 25 ads. MN has never been a large area for this kind of business. But there were 100 ads for a while at the peak, or in the '90s.
Most of the primary travel agencies dried up many years ago.
as the likelihood that your likes, wants, and desires have changed over such a significant period of time. Does the age, race, body type, incall location, services offered, etc., all matter? Are you trying to use a fake name when you screen or are you open to using your real name? What's your price point?
basically, this is a luxury expense/experience for you (and all the other clients here) and if you're going to dip your toe back in don't be afraid to ask for what you want and/or set parameters so we can help with suggesting someone who checks all your boxes.
Most other local FS girls with 8+ looks are highly overpriced. There is no reason to pay 500 to 700 for covered FS.
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too bad someone with pretty much no references and is "new" may not have a chance to even see any of the mne girls. Damn near impossible getting in.
Let's be honest the rates are ridiculous. No woman decides $500 for an hour. No session is worth that much. Personal opinion but I wish more guys would draw a line in the sand and don't overpay. I'm sure I'll catch some heat for this but I'd never pay $50 for a Big Mac no matter if the restaurant is 5 stars.
Your analogy was interesting and clever but yah girls charge what they charge and you have to live with it.
The most I have spent on a date was 400-450 and that was from an out of towner who was good but still not worth the rate.Back 3-4 years ago alot of put of towners with rates alot higher than most locals here planned to come here but ended up cancelling before they arrived (I am guessing because of the price point and lack of bookings).
Girls usually start at a lower price point and you have to find them then. Once the reviews start coming in and they get more popular the rates go up. I have only known of 2-3 girls who have actually lowered there rates (2 are still active). One of these went from 250, up to 400, back down to 300 and still at 300. Following her that summer was pretty entertaining as the price point followed other providers she was hanging out with and once she stopped hanging out with them she went back down to "normal" Back 5 or so years ago most ladies raised there rates because clients told them they should and they were way too cheap and could make more, and most listened to them.
Really?
My feelings haven’t changed: Providers can choose to charge whatever they’d like. Guys can make decisions on whether they want to see them. It’s simple supply and demand.
There are some providers who charge $500-600 or more who are totally worth it and it is an amazing experience. There are other providers who are $300 and it is a total rip off. I have had providers who I no longer see because their rate has gotten to the point where I’d rather see someone else. There are other providers who I would keep seeing even if their rates increased.
We’re all different people and we value different things. Some people want the hottest girl possible, others want to explore things they don’t get at home, many want a connection to go along with physical activity. Because of that, people look for different things. And one good thing about this town is that there are a good number of providers who offer different things and at different price points. We’re pretty fortunate.
You just have to start following one lady and then you can explore who she's following... and/or who she's interacting with.
I don’t think you will find a single long tenured true hobbyist on here that will argue that they are not the best fun in town for the $$$!!!
-- Modified on 4/1/2022 1:02:43 AM
You both have private emails that you can communicate with yet you openly push MNE every opportunity you get on public boards. Is it simply infatuation or do you really have a stake in the sex ring?
As I mentioned before, focus on FS with the highly reviewed hot MNErotica girls. They are reliable, provide consistent service, and don’t come on this forum and complain.
If you're going to try to insult people you're going to have to have to be more creative; the "least common denominator" type insults come from those with the lowest form of wit. Also, it's just... pathetic.
You are correct. This thread went off the rails starting with a post taking shots at the prices of local indies.
When they responded attacked got personal. All they way through ending with claiming the hijacking was others and name calling another poster. Guess to that I am at least one of the loner hobbyists but you most likely will never have hemorrhoids or class.
so what's the reason for your perma-shill of MNE? Infatuation or compensation?
Miggs, what do you gain by cruelly insulting others on the Board with immature, toxic responses? In a world filled with hate, lack of acceptance of each other and just plain hard times, project some kindness and civility. It makes others feel good, and from my experience, does one’s own self a world of good. When it all comes down, we are all just walking each other home.
A beautiful young lady "walked me all the way home" on Tuesday night. I emptied my pockets for her. I'll remember her for the rest of my life.
Damn straight Sir!!
(Too Funny…😭…I was going to quote RocketMan from the board about a year ago but I decided to Dass instead in the interest of a kinder gentler America. Thanks for rejoining the Board after swearing it off months back. Always enjoy your reviews and insights)
Damn it. My proof reader was in a 4:30 session, I should have waited. Daas not Dass.