Expect at least 50 minutes, and no less.  If we all do this the providers will eventually get it.  I don't care what we do in between shots, we can talk about the freezing weather or whatever

And at best im good for 30min these days before I've exhausted my reserves of seminal-fluid, so what the hell do i need the other 20+ minutes with her for?? To "Talk"? To "cuddle"?? To "cry in her arms"? Like a little fgt??? NO!! Pull up your pants man and get out of her way! Go make some money or something and use it to come and see her AGAIN when your ballz ache! (Or as in my case, most likely see someone else)

Again though this is an issue of cheapness and hourly-wage-mentality that brings that kind of thinking.. Ask any of the guys on this board that know me, i often see two or three providers in a day of over a weekend... I like multi-pops just as much i just hire and pay accordingly rather than trying o "maximize"  my dollar at the expense of the girl... And trust me when I say I ENJOY THIS HOBBY WAYYYYYYY MORE THAN YOU! Believe that! Hahaha!

..... when I pay for an hour, I expect no less than an hour. Assuming I arrive on time of course. If a provider wants to give me only 50 minutes, she should advertise "50 minutes for $X".  

No wonder you're so disappointed with the services you're getting! You go into this with the completely WRONG premise of what type of career-choice whoerdom is! It is a "professional-career" not an unskilled hourly-wage job!  When you go to your dentist, and your appointment is one hour long, do you expect the dentist to spoon with you on the chair for the rest of the hour if it only took him 11 minutes to pull your rotten tooth?? NO!!! You got what you came for, now get out of the way of all the clients waiting behind you!!!

If you hire a "consultant" to give you educated opinions about business or other issues, then you are consuming their "time" and they can not be selling that "time and knowledge" to anyone else... But if you hire a furnace-repairman, then billing is don on a "parts and labor" scale for their time, unless they are installing a new furnace, then they give you a "bid" and they provide you with a result matching your expectation regardless of time... But if you contract a painter (skilled-indepentent-contractor) and tell them you want your room painted blue, they give you a quote and you pay it and they take whatever time it takes to change your room to blue! Because you are paying for a RESULT not a length time for them to stand there and stroke your wall with a brush!!!

Even in a AMP or Jak-shak the "session" you are paying for is billed according to the number of minutes the masusse spends ACTIVELY RUBBING you... And so many guys get this one upside-down and wrong too! If you want EXTRA services from your massage-provider, then you pay for those services separately and in addition to the massage... Otherwise just lay there until your time is up while she rubs your junk...

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But providers are many things, depending on how they approach the business, and the client's attitude towards them.  

Do you also show up with a bouquet of roses because she mentioned that in her ad??  No! We read between the lines and realize that the "time" mentioned is just a way to express levels of service and apply a monetary-amount to it without saying something incriminating... Routinely girls spend way more time with me than i paid for when they have no other clients scheduled... What im trying to express here is that why you guys are having such a hard time getting girls to stay the full amout of time is directly related to this attitude of hourly-pay that you hold onto like its some sort of Gospel!

If the guy gets up and gets dressed I'll take it as a hint he's ready to leave. If he lays in bed I will lay with him and encourage more foreplay or whatever comes our way. I try not to rush but can be prompt when I have other things to take care of that evening. It is all in your power, guys, if a lady gets up and tries to leave ask "oh, is it *time of departure* already?" that will give the hint that you want all of the time ... not just a pop... but you won't have to be rude and say "why are you leaving so soon?!"

You are a hoot! haha
I'm not going to volunteer my opinion, as that would get too political, but you have such colorful language and a hilarious take on the hobby. I found it amusing and refreshing, especially the dentist part. I wonder if mine would spoon with me. lol

The theme here isn't the type of "extras" we all want, its the way we go about getting them and what we expect when we pay the initial cover-charge...

I'd never do it to a provider though, but it's not uncommon for a girl to say "can we go get something to eat" or "can I just sleep her tonight, I don't have anywhere else to be" or "wanna see a movie?", But I'm not going to EVER hold a girl to stay "every minute" of the one hour session just because "damnit, I paid for this time and I want my money's worth" like some of the guys here are implying!

But he has magical fingers and can toss my salad like nobody else! (I just feel sorry for the next client after me, because my Dentist will "work with out a glove" for an extra c-note! hahaha!)

No one, including me, have said here that we "hold" a provider to staying every minute of the agreed-upon time, as if we're blocking the door with our fat butts    or swear at them about the time they "owe" us or whatever. If a provider chooses to end the session early, so be it. Most likely, that will be the last time she ever sees me though. But it hasn't been a problem for me. Only had one provider ever end a session early, it was the first time I saw her..... also was the last time. I don't think my socks were the issue there.

That premise is the WHOLE REASON this thread exists!

It's all about what guys EXPECT re time with the provider. Nothing about what we DO if we don't get the full time. Nothing about flinging expletives at the provider, as you portrayed, because we didn't get the full scheduled time. Nothing about blocking them from leaving the room, as you mentioned.  

Talon1990-94 is CLEARLY issuing a "rally-cry" in his subject-line and asking men to band together "make these girls realize their mistake" by demanding the full hour or at least 50 minutes of it...  which is the wrong-premise for this hobby COMPLETELY! That it the point that I continue to reiterate and further widen the angle of my flood-lamp on as we continue to illuminate this topic!  

.... you're assuming every guy is like you and sees providers only to "drain our nutz", in your words. Of course you can do that in only 25 minutes or so. If that's all you want from a provider, WHY WOULD YOU PAY FOR AN HOUR? Lots of providers offer 30 minute sessions. Why pay for an hour if all you want to do is "drain your nutz" and scoot outta there?  

if you pay a girl her "half hour rate", you will get less of a service, regardless of how long you stay... Likewise if you pay a girl her "full-hour-rate" you will most likely get an improved level of service... Unless she can tell that you're going to milk her for every minute of time, then you will end up with a half-hour-level of service stretched out over a full hour length of time...  

I think what DJ is attempting to get across here, is there is quite a huge gulf between what he does, and what talon expects, and DJ is just offering his M.O.  to others.

"Each to his own" or "live and let live" are fine ways to just shake our heads and walk away... However when I see these same guys continue to grumble and complain about the way these girls treat them during their sessions, and then I see their posts of how the "girls should change" or the community of hobbiests should "stand up" and demand this or that, I feel the need to jump with my dick out and try to "educate" or at least introduce a deconstructive-waveform of thought that'll break up their wake before it hits shore...

Some guys like to talk for their time. I look at it as they pay me for a hour, so that is the arrangement. when guys pay and go they are usually the ones that are respectful. I book appointments based on time,so you tell me you want a hour, I will make my next appointment and hour after so im not bothered by chatting for 15-20 mins.

An hour wouldn't be nearly enough with you! You look very "spoonable", perhaps an all night pajama-party would be more the level of "comfort" I'd seek in our time together! ;D   (But I'd expect to pay accordingly, not see how many miles-per-dollar I could squeeze out of you!

But go to Nevada and try out some of the legal-brothels or ANYWHERE else in the world that prostitution is LEGAL and you will see that price-per-service is how prostitution-services are sold and billed for... And the "time" that is quoted is just a max-estimate for booking and appointment setting purposes...  

And this is EXACTLY what I would be looking for and hoping for from a "Body Rub" type provider!