I thought I would respond to Saya's post. First of all, and may someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when paying $$$$$ for a dinner date, one expects 'dessert'. I requested a dinner date and actually wanted to extend it after having met Saya, because I wanted to be very generous with her! I liked her and wanted to make the event a memorable one, since I had travelled from out of town. Second of all, this meeting with Saya was done only because Saya had stood me up once before and I thought she deserved a second chance. It was an honest mistake (she had marked the wrong week), but business is business and the provider should be given an opportunity to make things right. (The Japanese are world-famous for customer service) Thirdly, and this is my mistake, I left her alone in my hotel room while I went to the bathroom (I closed the bathroom door), and so I was concerned Saya had possibly taken something that didn't belong to her (something that had happened to me one other time). Her being guarded led me to believe my instinct might be correct. When I tried to delay her departure, she became more upset. She left and after I checked to make sure nothing was missing, I noticed the gift envelope was still there....that's why I was running to catch up with her. She, and understandably so, thought I was chasing her! I realize that now, so that's my mistake also. Fourthly, I was expecting everything from Saya that had been described in her reviews from TER, and if Saya has second thoughts about whether she can consistently perform the duties of intimate companion, then I respectfully suggest she should walk away from this and find something else to do. And her denying the very existence of those reviews made me question whether she was just simply trying to rip me off. (note the one bad experience I had previously mentioned) Lastly, yes, it is/can be an extremely stressful situation for providers. It can also be for clients. Today's Society is partly to blame for that. But I believe in the profound healing that can occur when a beautiful woman uses her powerful sexual energy to nurture the man. It is a sacred ritual that is as old as time itself. I would welcome anyone's comment and especially Saya's. Saya, if you still have my card, please call me. I answer my phone any time and would be very happy to talk with you! One final comment. I have seen many more providers than I have reviewed. If anyone wants to verify my character, email me and I will provide references. G
I am finally responding in my regards to the inquiry that I have just read about myself posted last weekend. I did not know how to address my bad experience and if/how it should be made public, but I see it has been done for me. I canft believe that I have had my second horrible experience in such a short time. It has gotten to the point that, as the calendar on my web page shows, I have had to take some time from this business to evaluate whether or not I wanted to follow through with this business. So I apologize to those trying to contact me if I have not responded to you yet. Is it just me or are these the sort of experiences that I should expect as a provider?
The situation at hand is a recent appointment I had with Georggy that went terribly wrong. First of all, the meeting was supposed to be a dinner date, which in my book is just that, DINNER! Apparently he had something else in mind. I do not understand why he requested a dinner date, which is all I had in mind for the evening since this is what he suggested.
Maybe Georggy is not all that bad. I donft know and have no intention on finding out. It is possible that somewhere along the line something went sour and it escalated further than it ever should have, but what I do not understand is why Georggy is pretending he has no idea what went wrong. When Georggy became aggressive and persistent I knew I had to leave. I was even pursued as I ran to the gas station across the street from the restaurant/motel.
Also can someone help me understand where the line is drawn on when enough is enough between a provider and a client? If I am not comfortable with the situation, is there an obligation to stay? Can I not leave? This had nothing to do with any cologne, nor have I ever had any PTSDfs, as mentioned as possible triggers in the previous post, or any other psychological issues for that matter. This was merely an uncomfortable situation for me that I just wanted over. After all, I never accepted any money from him. I could have understood the negative review if I took his money and then decided I must leave, but that was not the case at all. Also it seems as though Georggy wants people to think of him as the victim of some psycho provider, never being a responsible man about mentioning his role in the escalation of the turn of events. The only sad part of the review board is it seems if a guy does not get his way he can hold over a providers head that he can damage her reputation in this business. The bottom line is, I spent two hours with him, things did not go well, so I did not take his money. How does Georggy feel as though his time is wasted? I am the one who should be giving him the bad review. Please tell me the best way one should deal with a situation that they just want out of. I tried to just take a little time off and put the situation behind me, but with the review and posts of the situation I feel the need to defend myself. I thought I handled the situation O.K. but according to what I have read, I must have done something wrong. What should I have done?
Saya,
This is definitely a buisness that has it's ups and downs. It can also take an emotional toll on you. You have to develop a thick skin at times (bad reviews, LE incidents, people finding out that you don't want to, stalkers,unhappy clients, etc..............). There are also perks to the biz. You meet interesting and fun people sometimes, good$$$$, and a chance to explore another side of yourself. I read about what happened, and I really do understand. Once you have something negative happen to you in this buisness, you become more cautious and your buisness "innocence" (for lack of a better word) is gone. I totally recommend the whole break thing!!!!!!!!! The longer I am in he buisness the more breaks I take. It gives you time to focus on other things, and work on other areas of your life. I always feel better when I come back from a break! Also who knows, someday I may take that final break and decide to quit the biz. You have to have other areas in your life that are important to you in order to last in this buisness, or else you will lose it. I am sure that guys will still want to see you, and when you are with a client always remember that your encounter may wind up being public TER news the next day. Good Luck and Stay Safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lisa
I don't know Greggory or saya - all I can add is.... to provider and client - take care of yourself.
It has been said many times before, the best will rise above the rest. Don't fear a bad review, fear many bad reviews. Don't rest on a single good review, strive for all good reviews. Don't be an ass hole client and the service will be better. Be respectful, clean and upfront.
As a client, if we see a bad review and the rest are good - we understand there are mitigating circumstances we will never know - regardless of how many postings. If we still want to see a provider, we will. If for what ever reasons expectations are not met upfront - we can call of the appointment. Why should we expect anything else from a provider? We shouldn't. Set expectations and manage to them. Yea we are fufilling a need and possibly a fantasy - but unless part of that fantasy is being a complete ass hole and agreed to by the provider (setting and meeting expectaions) - we should always try to be respectful and understanding.
As a provider - the very nature of the job suggests you will encounter bad times - be it ass hole clients, le or other providers. Take care of your self. If you need to call off an engagement, do it. Also understand that the client has the same option. If you are an ROB - you will have more problems - if you are one of the best, and your reviews show that - the clients that want to see you will probably be less likely to be the ass hole types. If you are a ROB - you will probably have more incidents as well as public postings about your antics. Fact is, there are ass holes and there are ROB's.
No matter how hard we all try - Great providers and great clients may meet - and have a terrible experince. It is the providers right to perform as they feel they need and it is the clients right to express his opinion in reviews and postings.
To conclude who did what wrong in this particular situation is not possible -
Saya, you took care of yourself, congradulations. Your reviews are so positive except for this incident. Taking time off to re evaluate is great. Hopefully you will make the decision that is best for you.
Gregory - you expressed your disappointment - and in doing so you took care of yourself. Congradulations. Hopefully you can take something away from the encounter that can improve your next one.
IMHO
I thought I would respond to Saya's post. First of all, and may someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when paying $$$$$ for a dinner date, one expects 'dessert'. I requested a dinner date and actually wanted to extend it after having met Saya, because I wanted to be very generous with her! I liked her and wanted to make the event a memorable one, since I had travelled from out of town. Second of all, this meeting with Saya was done only because Saya had stood me up once before and I thought she deserved a second chance. It was an honest mistake (she had marked the wrong week), but business is business and the provider should be given an opportunity to make things right. (The Japanese are world-famous for customer service) Thirdly, and this is my mistake, I left her alone in my hotel room while I went to the bathroom (I closed the bathroom door), and so I was concerned Saya had possibly taken something that didn't belong to her (something that had happened to me one other time). Her being guarded led me to believe my instinct might be correct. When I tried to delay her departure, she became more upset. She left and after I checked to make sure nothing was missing, I noticed the gift envelope was still there....that's why I was running to catch up with her. She, and understandably so, thought I was chasing her! I realize that now, so that's my mistake also. Fourthly, I was expecting everything from Saya that had been described in her reviews from TER, and if Saya has second thoughts about whether she can consistently perform the duties of intimate companion, then I respectfully suggest she should walk away from this and find something else to do. And her denying the very existence of those reviews made me question whether she was just simply trying to rip me off. (note the one bad experience I had previously mentioned) Lastly, yes, it is/can be an extremely stressful situation for providers. It can also be for clients. Today's Society is partly to blame for that. But I believe in the profound healing that can occur when a beautiful woman uses her powerful sexual energy to nurture the man. It is a sacred ritual that is as old as time itself. I would welcome anyone's comment and especially Saya's. Saya, if you still have my card, please call me. I answer my phone any time and would be very happy to talk with you! One final comment. I have seen many more providers than I have reviewed. If anyone wants to verify my character, email me and I will provide references. G
i usually don't get into this stuff but guy's remember no still means no...pretty simple
I mean.. if you want to see her again and I think you do don't you 
Of course I would submit a new review and request the old review be taken down if Saya would agree to see me again, this time with no misunderstandings. Misty, you know I want to see her again. I guess it's up to Saya.
It sounds like there were a lot of misunderstandings here, and it may well be one of those cases where two people experience the exact same situation, but they perceive it in totally different ways.
Depending on one's past experiences, it is possible to interpret the phrase "dinner date" to mean dinner followed by private, intimate time, but it is also possible to interpret it as an arrangement to escort a Gent to dinner - a purely social function.
That having been said, I note that Saya's website lists a 2-hour "Dinner Date" for $500. To be frank, when an escort lists that in her rates, and also includes a very explicit review (yes, there are code words, but we all know what DFK and BJ and "visits to the Greek isles" refer to), I would expect more than sharing a meal for the five bills.
OTOH, if we lingered for 2 hours over dinner, then I'm not sure if it's fair to expect more time. If the deal is 2 hours for $500, and it's a dinner date, then I'd assume it's dinner plus private time up to 2 hours total ... and I'd eat FAST!
Regardless, the cure for this is to be as clear as possible in communicating. That can be tough, given the need to be discreet and to avoid phrasing things in a way that could lead to legal troubles. I generally make it clear up front that I am interested in spending a certain amount of private time with a Lady. In many situations, I will also extend a dinner invitation, but make it clear that it is simply a friendly social gesture, not part of the business arrangement, and that I take no offense if the Lady would rather limit our rendezvous to the private time I am paying for.
Anyway, it sounds like an unpleasant situation all around, and I doubt that anyone who wasn't there will ever fully understand what happened. Even the two who WERE there may not.
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Yes, mountaineer, "it may well be one of those cases where two people experience the exact same situation, but they perceive it in totally different ways." Welcome to the TER remake of Rashomon! All we need now is Japanese subtitles . . .
Hope youll see those of us who have had a wonderful experience with you. RR
I’ve seen Saya several times and every time was more enjoyable than the first. My money is on Saya. I hope she takes a little time off and returns.
I haven't been reading the board the last few days, so I am just catching up. But I feel it is important to throw 2 more cents in. Apologies if this is redundant.
First, Georggy seems to have conceded that there was indeed a misunderstanding and he would be willing to change or delete his negative post if Saya would see him again. This is total B.S. If the post was misleading, because it was based on a misunderstanding, then it shouuld be changed or deleted out of fairness, period. Making this correction should not be contingent on her seeing him again. That is the same as telling a provided, "Yeah, I'll give you a great reveiw if you give me a $100 discount." There should be now quid pro pro here, if the review was inaccurate or misleading, change it, period. Don't extort another meeting as payment for changing the review.
Second, I have seen Saya a number of times. She has always been totally honest and straight forward, very professional: but at the same time sweet, warm, and extremely accomodating. And amazingly she is still genuine. And it is astounding to me that all those qualities are in one package.
And as someone else says, no means no, in any circumstance.
My strong hope is that Saya does whatever she needs to do just take care of herself.
Very good points. I wholeheartedly agree.
Apparently there has been some sort of misunderstanding about my post. I never intended to make it seem as though I can’t deal with having a negative review. I am totally fine with that, because I know I have to take the good with the bad, and these things come with the territory. I only wrote my post in defense of a previous one about this situation. I may not have even went public about my review had the subject not come up. I am o.k. with my review from Georggy, because that’s his opinion. He pays for his membership which gives him the right to voice his opinion. I just felt an obligation to give my side of the story once it became public. It makes me more comfortable to keep the review as it is and Georggy and I go our separate ways, unless he changes the review on his own will. I DO NOT buy or bargain for good reviews. I am sure that some girls have had a great time with him, but I feared for my life that day. In addition, tension arose when it was believed that I was stealing, even after I refused the money offered to me. Didn’t make sense, but who knows, and who cares. Regardless of what went wrong, the bottom line is things did not work out between us, and I am all for moving on. Why don’t all of us TER participants get back to enjoying the BEST of what this hobby and this board has to offer.
There are some changes that I will make to make things more clear and understood from my end. I know that I have some wrinkles to iron out. At the same time, it would help that a client did not assume that a provider can always extend her scheduled appointment. Please just take into account the possibility of other obligations.
Take care
-- Modified on 10/4/2002 1:54:31 AM