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Provider harrassment?  Hobbyists getting phone calls?  Haven't we experienced this before?  (Can we throw in a client database?)  Maybe I'm not connecting the dots correctly...

Post sometime when you've got resolutions.  Who's Capt Kirk?  

-- Modified on 3/21/2007 12:43:23 PM

As I recall YOUR name came up dirty the last time we had one of these insodents! So don't come on here like your part of the solution!
 You're bring up these fear-points like they are common knowledge!
-- What provider harassment? Danny again? Providers harassing other providers? What are you getting at?
-- "Numerous Hobbyists" getting phone calls? When? Who? How odd that YOU are the only one alleging this on a completely unmoderated board! (more fear mongering on your part?)
-- What notes on cars? You make it sound like it's an epidemic! I only know of one instance of that?
-- Hacking? Do you mean Yahoo accounts? I thought that was old news too..

Sounds like you're the one with an agenda trying to stir up doubt and unrest... Using yesterday's news...

BTW, I removed the names of those mentioned, and the complete list of recepients of that email, because they were not listed as being INVOLVED!
I left the "B" in the name of the person who was listed as THE CONTACT PERSON in the email! She chose to come on the board and admit it was her! To which I'm very impressed... and it speaks volumes towards her inocents in this matter!

Funny thing is,,, I didn't notice YOUR email addy among the recipients! Yet you seem to be WELL INFORMED, and the timing of your first fear mongering post, and the distribution time of the broadcast email are uniquely curious! Hmmmm? Back at ya!

Stop with all the drama and rumors and acusations.  You've hurt many hobbyists and escorts with your rumors you call facts.  
If you have information that can lead to catching the trouble maker (s) then hand it over to someone with more than a monkey brain.
You're a fools fool

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-- Modified on 3/21/2007 12:44:04 PM

You're the one posting vague inuendo's and spreading gossip.  How do you know what's fact and what's not?  You don't honestly believe every escort and hobbyist aren't playing you like a well tuned instrument as have in the past do you?

Not too long ago you accused people of things that were proven not to be so.  Now, that's a fact!


-- Modified on 9/22/2006 9:02:56 AM

I feel everyone should just take a deep breath and collect their composure! I thought this hobby was to escape from our everyday bullshit and grab a piece of happiness and fantasy that so many of us are lacking in our lives. What ever happened to respect of our fellow man? The quilty parties who are causing this should be ashamed of themselves and go back to where you came from! Good over runs evil. Don't forget that. You will not succeed at your Weak attempt to scare off the people here!  remember: It is not that life is so short, it is that you are dead for so long! start enjoying life you miserable a..h...s and have a conscious! How would you feel if this was happening to you and yours? Think about that before you try to do your next little dirty childish act! eom

A dictatorship exists by fear and threat... Closed to your m.o. than mine...

It sounds like what you're attempting is a coup... How ironic and laughable to have someone sitting on an even higher horse asking me to dismount from mine!
 Or the irony of you accusing me of having an "agenda", while claiming to have no agenda yourself, while asking people to write David and vote for a new moderator! (sounds like an agenda to me!)
Sadly, and as usual, when you and I are at eachothers throats, we are usually more in agreement than not!
 I'll grant you, I am NOT "in-the-know" in the mainstream of this hobby! (And never claimed to be, I know what I know, which is the fringe-area around the outside!)
I can only stay as informed as people wish to inform me... Not my problem if I don't know what's going on out there...

However, I would be very intrested in any info about phone calls to home phones, ect... I took that shit rather seriously when Alex Mathews and psyco-Jenny did it! Right?

I don't really want to be "in-the-loop" any more that people want to include me in their loops... That's what makes this anti-Ben Dover mass-email so hillarious! (To me anyway)

Yes, I agree, the note on the car situation is worse than phone/email harassment! It is wrong and scary for the ladies. It shows increasing boldness in stalker-type harassment, a willingness of who ever is involved to cross many lines!
And that is the crazy kind of shit that make women not trust any of us!

Hacking? Recent? Sounds like the phone harassment claims you're making... more second or third hand information... (ie; "gossip") I'd take both instances more seriously if I heard about it first hand! (Unless you are claiming your computer was hacked, but based on your wording, it doesn't sound like that's what your claiming)

BTW, I didn't say anything about the timing of your post going up and when you claim to have "seen" the email... I said it was curious as to the timing of when your post went up and the email was SENT!

Second-hand smoke... Blown back at ya!

So what did you do with your Friday looks like most of you are in the land of drama... and your missing out on all the fun!! I'm on cloud 9 after my morning!!

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In this case, I can throw my assurance to MDL.
Ben, Back when my computer hacking began to take
place, I emailed you three different times
asking for your assistance, so I could get my
TER account unfroze, Guess what, I never heard a
word from you!
As well, it was not just my yahoo, that got hacked, but my TER account, and my internet
access as well.
Now I have first hand information, that a provider
has suffered the same fate as I did recently.
I have no reason to doubt her claims, as she is
not a drama Queen type of person.
I also had heard of another seperate incident,
in which a provider had been hacked as well.
So all this is old news? NOT
And then add to it, the fact of the phone calls
to hobbiests and providers, and notes on cars?
Then attempt to claim that MDL is creating drama?
I think not, as I am one of those who gave information to him, as to what was taking place,
Now if someone wants to step forward, and call
me a liar, or better yet, say that I am creating
drama! Then I would have to say go take a flying
fuck at a rolling donut.
Some of the information that MDL presented in his
post is fact, because it came from me, and a provider, who I have also communicated with.
She has read to me, from the emails, that she
received, That were sent out, in her name, but
the problem is, she never sent the emails,
confirming appointments, with hobbiests, but yet
there they are.
So in this case, those of you who have doubt,
can take it to the bank, that this shit has
happened, and is on going,
I don't doubt the rest of the information that
MDL has posted, because of my very own experience,
and that of another person who I feel is creditable as well.
Trooper

But admittedly, I erase most email history, unless I haven't replied yet... (such as to your Milan PM) I do remember asking Staff to check for IP inconsistency on you a looong time ago, but don't think I ever heard back... I did get some generic response from a TER Staffer reguarding they'd been contacted by you, but I never even got an answer as to why you got locked out in the first place. What little I know about your situation, I learned from you... Sorry,,, I must have dropped the ball on following up... (The PM's I receive ebb and flow, sometimes I lose my place,,, I've admitted that before.)

Now, as to the rest of what you said... It's a lot more believable coming from you in a first-person account!
I'd recommend doing that in the future, rather than speaking through MDL...
 I didn't say MDL was "creating" the drama, But rather I'm suggesting he EXAGGERATED it, and was manipulating it by blending old and new unrelated insodents together in an attempt to over-inflate the dramatic amplitude of the current situation! Thus attempting to flare community into an unnatural level of fear and panic! AND I STAND BY THAT!

A small group of you are playing "Beautiful  Mind" with all these various attacks by thinking you see relationships and patterns in this stuff!
I think we have multiple stalkers/weirdos out there, and most of these things are completely unrelated, but that's just my opinion...

Between craigslist/TER/and the provider community, we've got a odd people, I think Big Sky hit it best in the thead he started down the page!

You would think that people would not want to mess up a good thing by behaving in this fashion wouldn't you, particularly given the potential consequences if it gets really out of hand.  Unfortunately, people are people and there are always a few who cause trouble for whatever reason.