I have to know if you are getting men who read your reviews then expect you to provide everything that is stated in there and if you dont then they complain.  I am interested in this as I for one am not a robot with clients and every session is not the same thing every time.  What I do with one, I may not do with another.  I may not even do things that my profile says or I may do things that are not on there.  Let it be known dear men that I will not be forced to do things I am not comfortable doing.  EVEN IF YOU DID READ IT SOMEwhere.  I dont give a s***.  To me that would be like providers expecting that all clients will be hot and tip and be prefect clients, etc.  Give me a break!!  So with the harrassing lately, I might decide to have them removed.  Disgusted Madison

Its just like going to the movies

Hollywood is saying ahh man go see minority report  it is such a great flick its the best movie of the year and so you go see what the hype is about.  You wouldnt normally go see this movie but ...EVERYONE says its the best.  You come home dissapointed.  The there is this other movie you dont know much about it, but it looks like something that was produced just for you. You come home and tell all your friends it was the best movie of all time.  Pretty soon the word gets around and you feel special to have seen it before people knew about it.  But some of your firends who just aren't into movies about young mexican priests having affairs with young mexican girls, think what the hell my buddy says its great, I will go check it out.  But when your friend goes to see it he hopes that even though he hates mexicans,subtitles,independent flicks, and driving to uptown that somehow it will still be the best ever..he comes homes dissapointed.
Reviews of providers hinder the suprise and maybe puts your expectaions too high.  Besides what  one man may like another may hate.  I've known of men who have only seen a provider because of her reviwes not because he knew she aws his type but because well everyone else liked her...  So not only can reveiws hinder your thrill of the unknown but it can hurt a provider as well.  She may feel that instead of having the priviledge of being able to read a man and discover his inner fantasies she has to reply to yes or no the minute he walks in the door and blurts out, "I read read you like monkeys would you like to screw a monkey today."  OMG you are making a fool of yourself boy,you just spoiled the thrill.  Now instead of me just instictvly knownin you like to make love with monekys I have to be  bloody menu of services.  Now doesnt that just make an encounter just all palnned out..I hate planned planned is boring!Go with the flow...you may be even surprised where it may lead you..heee

There seems to be two kinds of clients out there. The first kind wants something like selections from a menu-- like going to McDonalds. The other kind is looking for an experience, like going to a fine restaurant where the chef creates each dish uniquely for the customer.

Part of the problem comes in when some of the less scrupulous ladies try and market themselves as upscale restaurants, when they are actually more along the fast-food lines. That is absolutely not intended to bash any of the fine ladies here, who have fine reputations indeed, but we all know of ladies who are less than oriented toward pleasing the client and more toward getting the cash-in-hand as quickly and with as little effort as possible.

On the other side, the guys see prices that are right up there with world-famous corporate lawyers, and they may have the idea that they are buying a service that is consistent. They have chosen based on the recommendations and reported experiences of others, and when they don't get the same services, they are upset and disappointed. For them, it's a stricly commercial proposal, like choosing an internet service provider.

There is a point. If I'm choosing someone to work on my house based on the recommendations of others, and I find out after I've contracted with her that she won't paint the window trim for me when she did for someone else, I'm gonna be somewhere between bummed and pissed-off.

Now I'm not meaning to reduce the fine talents of the ladies to something as rudimentary as painting trim, although a nice soft-bristled sable brush now and then can be a good thing. I really prefer a lady who can be spontaneous and try some things that maybe I hadn't thought of, or at least won't admit to in public. But there are also times that I know that I want my window trim painted, and I need to find someone who is willing to do that consistently and well. However, it's _really_ difficult to ask about that without offending/annoying providers.

Madison, I haven't read your profile. I don't know what activities your profile talks about, but I would suggest that if you don't want to do those things consistently, then remove them. You may lose some business, but that is probably business from clients that you wouldn't like anyway.

As for reviews-- cripes, some things are really better off kept private between the individual parties involved. Again, with no reviews, you may lose some business, but your overall quality of clients may improve.

Then again, I'm just talking out of my ass. I'm really bored because I've been writing javascript all day, and I'm looking for a distraction.

Big I respect your thoughts on this but, you are not a client.  To me you have to either be a provider or a client to really know this biz.  And your saying maybe if I dont want to do something consistantly to have it removed is not the point.  Provdiers will do what they want with one and not do something with the other.  Just because there are profiles does not mean that we are required to do everything with everyone.  This thinking is making me sick.  I would think this would be a form of pimping.........you WILL do this because you have before..........I dont work that way I never have and I never will.

I would say if the provider provides a cirten service to some clients and not to others it is either because 1 she likes some more than others witch she should be entitled to or 2 a better repore has been estableshed with some than others. Both of these are things are things I as a long time hobbiest think are perfictly understandable not to dis anyones fine opinion just my own.fyi I am new to this site and do enjoy the discussion thanks

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i read reviews of providers before i book a date for one reason, to know if i am going to get ripped of. if a provider has a history of bad reviews she might be a person to stay away from. just because she has good reviews doesnt mean you and her are a good match. it takes two people to have a good date. if you have the personality of a brick wall then it doesnt matter who the provider is it will never be as good as the reviews say it is. i think they should have a review board for us. that would be a good way for the providers to screen us. maybe the providers already have a review board and we dont know it. evertime we give a referance they just look us up.

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I don't usually post. I have been a hobbiest for many years and I can say that each encounter has been special and unique. I have sometimes seen providers because of reviews but I do not approch the session with any expectations. We are all individuals and sometimes two people connect and things go well. Usually I let the lady direct the first session. If I liked the way things went then I will return and at that time talk about expectations. I also don't write reviews because we are all different and what I find pleasing may not be for someone else.

Madison, i agree with you if two people don't click you have that uncomfortable feeling going, you can't really get into the session. I think everybody understands that use it in your private lives if you are dating someone this should make sense. AS far as being a robot sounds to me if people are looking for a big blue light special. then again its early and I am rambling. Hope your week get better.

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All of your views are very valid.  I personnal use the reviews to see if the lady has been consistant in her performance,not a rip off, and what options she MAY provide during a session.  I have been with a provider that the majority has enjoyed but we did not click which I referenced in my review.  I tend to write my reviews to give the people my view of the time spent together with the provider and what MY experience and views of her performance and appearance were.  This does not mean every guy should expect that type of treatment.  I would expect if I have seen a provider a number of times that it would get better each time as the two of you get more comfortable with each other and tune into each others needs and desires.  There is my 2 cents worth.

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" Big" is right. To many providers rely on past performances to entice hobbyist to engage them. One expects a good performance everytime. No provider ever gave me mony back for a half hearted effort.

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Madison, you are great. One of the best if not THE BEST. Below is not toward you in any way, shape or form. It’s my two cents as a general to the other providers who performances are less than desire. They know who they are.

Provider are pay actresses for the hour. You are pay to perform an act called GFE.  If you are cannot give 110% at the moment, don’t take the job. Kindly decline the job. If you decided to take on the job, you should give 110%. If you do you will received 110% of the money and be rehired. Imagine you are expecting $300 for your act and your client shows up with $270.

Let’s see a provider acting fee is $300-$500 per hour.
If acting 40hrs per week. That is $12,000-$20,000 per week.
That would be $624,000-$1,040,000/yr. Good living, would you think?

Let’s take a more reasonable approach. Very Reasonable.
Let’s say if she acts 2-3 hrs/day. That’s 10-15 hrs/week. Weekend off. That is $3000-$4500 week. $156,000-$234,000/yr.
Still good living would you think?

People like my self making $150,000/yr have to work hard and have to know a lot, not to mention the stress level or and the risk goes with it.  Unlike a provider, working 2-3 hours per day with little or no educations or skills required.

For those of you who choose this profession. You are very smart individuals. You taking advantage of the one thing nature gives you, your youth and beauties and the desire of men to have  act all the time and with as many pretty actress as possible. I am against any client who wants to cause pains or harms to any provider. But if all he wants is hot acts, GFE type, and he is paying $300-$500 per hours for it, he should get it the way he wanted. If we paid for something, we are expected to get it right? It’s a simple principle. Anyone not with me?

Madison, I wish you  better days ahead.

I am so happy to know that you all understood my posting.  You are all such sweet gentlemen.  I also wanted to let you know that this had nothing to do with greeneyes8900.  Him and I clicked very well as you might have read.  But this was more for the NEW clients who dont get it.  Dont understand the rules and think that they own you for the time being and you will do as instucted.  For those of you who know me you know I love my guys and have a fabulous time with most of them cause they get the way it is, I will bend over backwards for the gentlemen who I adore.  Thanks guys I appreciate you so much.

None that I'm aware of.  It sure would be nice to be able to pull up a profile of a hobbyist and know his preferences.  A few hobbyists offered their review names, those dates went pretty well.  As it stands, we have to rely on you guys doing your homework.

This is why repeat dates are so much better.  Communication is fluent and you both know what to expect.    

BOTH parties have to do their best to ensure satisfaction.

I really agree with Madisons last post I feel the same way,I love my 'regulars' I love them so much I kinda hate calling them that, I've gotton to be on a good personal level with most of them, they know what to expect of me and are not going to push me into anything I do not want to do. Some guys really don't get it when you say no daty they want to keep trying hello that is very rude and makes me want to leave because my comfort level is way down!! I agreed with most of these posts but MPR-Man whoa!! towards the end about you should get what you pay for there are just some people who really should not, I'm sorry but some things I just can not do, I really am not into dfk I am not going to go around and let every man I see jam his tounge into my throat, I think all of us ladies will agree you are not always just payin for an hour long romp...I prefer to know you a little, I like having some sort of relationship type bond with you, it always makes it better. You are seeing us for our special quailities, the way we look the way we talk the things we say how we can make you feel -mentally and physically, not just the obvious. Otherwise you would all be seeing a few different girls because they really get down they're cheap and it really doesn't matter, why would there even be these boards or reviews. I guess the best thing to do is your homework I also have to say Mistery's idea of getting to know what a client has posted about another provider will really help to see what the guy is looking for what to expect from him. Why do we have to be the only ones in the spotlight here?? I just don't undersdtand what it is we have to do to eliminate the bull, I get so many e-mails daily about services I do not provide if it's not posted maybe you should not expect it, What really get's me though is if I ask you for a reference or a way to reach you or anything that does require a response and you send me the same message you sent me two days before without the info I requested I will erase your message and not see you sometimes I'll even take a few seconds to tell you about yourself. Okay now I'm all worked up thinking about ignorance. I hope these posts will make some people think about the way they try to treat us like we are under them when in reality if you look at what mpr-man did say about our salaries...you guys need to find some more respect for your hard working providers!! And it is work! Ladies have a wonderful day!

Sorry Madison-- didn't mean to offend. I am completely in agreement with you that you shouldn't be required to do anything that you are uncomfortable with.

My point is that when you consider something to be a _business_, there are certain expectations of consistency, regardless of the _nature_ of the business. For instance, if you were to promote your services as a painter and I hired you with the expectation that you would paint my house and you decided that you didn't want to paint the west wall because you didn't feel like it that day, I would feel justified in not paying you the full amount you requested, and would probably give you a bad recommendation.

Truly, we're not talking about painting houses here, but the basic concepts are the same. When your clients perceive that they have been shortchanged, they write a bad recommendation. You may not like that recommendation and you are certainly within your rights to dispute it, but they're gonna show up.

You are completely within your rights to run your business any way you want, and you obviously have clients that are happy with you. You also have apparently had some that are not happy with you. That will likely always be the case. My suggestions to you were simply made as suggestions to help alleviate the problem that you seem to be having, with the smackdown that you can only change those things that are within your control. You have no control over what others post or say about you.

Nor do I.

Now, something else: just because I am not *your* client does not mean that I'm not *a* client. I've been around a few years more than you, and have a little bit of a history. In other words, don't teach your grandpa to chew cheese.  

Reevil's advocate.

I also don't want to come across as a pain in the a$$. I genuinely enjoy the ladies, and I enjoy the variety and exoticity (I know, it's not a word; blow me) that the lovely ladies provide that I otherwise would not be able to have.

I'm not a "meat puppet" type. If I were, the City Pages is chock-full-o-ads for that kind of service. I appreciate the more personable nature of the ladies that I've met through the local boards, and I appreciate the level of caution and screening that they have to go through. And I understand the "meat puppet" calls that they get, and how uncomfortable they can be.

So ladies, I'm really with you on this one. I just feel the need to argue the other side of the fence because I have no life and I'm bored.

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Wow.  I have so many feelings on this.  First a little about myself.  I almost never post unless it is something I feel strongly about.  I have seen a few ladies, but prefer to stick with the ladies I "click" with.  I, like many others, have some personal interests that I consider "musts" if I am going to see a provider more than once.  I choose not to go into the details of these, but I feel that this may be one thing that we are all missing.  I use the reviews in "researching" a provider to see if they do the things that in my mind are "musts".  If they don't, that is entirely their choice and I respect that.  However, I will not see them.  When a provider is reviewed as performing a task, that I consider one of my "musts", and she doesn't follow through with me I will be disappointed, and depending on the situation, angry.  I personally would never "push" a provider to do something they did not want to do.  I would simply not see them again.  However, I do feel that Big makes valid points about providing a service.  I do not make $100k/year, I'm a blueish-white collar worker that scrapes together the money to follow a hobby he enjoys.  So when you don't get what you're expecting, it can make a person angry.  I enjoy seeing some of the prominent ladies on this board, and I hope this doesn't ruin my reputation with any of the ladies and end my "hobby" (I've seen at times this board can become quite vindictive...hence my hesitation to post often), but I felt this was important enough to throw in my two cents.  Ladies, you are under the spotlight because you are the ones making the money.  You do NOT have to do anything you do not want to, but please understand when clients may be disappointed.  However, gentlemen, we do NOT have the right to push people beyond their comfort zone.  If you feel you did not get what you were looking for...don't see them again.  Write a review if it is a grevious enough offense.  But please, the ladies are providing a service that we all love and do not want to do without.