Chill. Sarcasm, by it's nature, involves exaggeration. While you may have inferred that to mean that I think you have no life, what I meant was what I said at the end. Have some perspective. Unwad your panties, my tongue was firmly in cheek.
Your life is essentially unchanged whether a review is posted in 4 hours or 4days. You have suffered no grievous injury, no scars other than psychological. It's nice when it goes right up, but really - is it worth the grief and anguish and hand wringing and rending of garments I see in posts again and again?
I'll tell you where most of the complaints come from, IMO - those whose free VIP is running out so they hurry up and cobble together a couple of reviews so they can get it going again. Those are the only people a day or two really matter to.
Of course it's all just my opinion - I could be wrong. Thoughts?
Its been four days. In the past few months, I've had to endure even weeks (for corrections or whatever problem they have with my review) to get a review posted. If I didn't believe in the ladies I write about, I would simply give up. So much for fresh reviews and if I go on the board to give my experience, I get cited for a shill post! It is very frustrating and I hear from other hobbyist that they have similar problems.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Methinks ldm51560 and I are both waiting for reviews to go "live" that we posted about the same provider days ago. In this case, that girl could use some real feedback from those of us who have actually met her in person.
It's important not only for us as paid VIP members to get proper feedback, but for her (and obviously many others) for their own reputations.
Whether feedback is positive, negative or anything in between, *timely* feedback is the key to what makes TER click.
Yeah I posted 3, 1 was accepted, another was rejected because I'm a new user and the last was rejected for "no specific reason" and to email to discuss why it was rejected.
I sure agree with you guys, TER does respond to my questions when I email them back but I always seem to have problems getting a providers address right. I pull up the providers site and then copy the address in the address space and then paste. I do not try and make up a story about some provider I've seen, but I have plenty of reviews that I have just given up on. Lubeman
I heard that!That is exactly why you will never see a review by me. I just gave up!
Spending anywhere from 5 - 15 minutes actually writing the review, you hit 'send' - and then your world stops. You cannot go to work, see a movie, see another provider, eat a meal, jerk off - you are in suspended animation until your review is approved. That 4 days is an eternity because you cannot get on with your life until the TER deities validate your encounter by posting the review. Hell, it's likely the orgasm doesn't even hit til then.
OK, sarcasm mode off.
Let's get a little perspective, shall we?
I think the problem is that for some reason some people have real problems getting their reviews their reviews through TER. Not only is it slow but when the reviews are rejected, the reasons given are not clear and getting an explanation out of TER is difficult. I haven't had these problems in a while but have had them in the past and it is frustrating and, because reviews are the core of what makes TER useful, confusing.
Have you noticed how often a new provider comes up with one stellar review from a new reviewer who never seems to write another review? My reviews were subject to a lot of scrutiny when I first came to TER somewhere back around the Jurassic. As time progressed and i got more reviews approved the process became easier because I built credibility as a reviewer.
Lots of complaints about bogus reviews on the boards - well being tough on newbie reviewers is one way to fight that.
Not a perfect system by any means - but it's better than a lot of folks give credit for - and the struggle to get a review published isn't really as epic as many make it out to be. If this is such a big deal in someone's life, then they're pretty blessed overall.
And pointed it out on any number of occasions when requests for info on a girl have come up; I have no problem with TER subjecting those kinds of reviews to extra scrutiny and also think they need to do more in that area because too many suspect ones get through. I'm not so concerned about it taking a few days but what does bother me is when I have had a problem with a review or something else and it takes a week or more and multiple attempts to get a response from TER.
We support TER. I have 18 reviews and it takes me a few hours to write a review and edit it because I take them seriously. They affect the livelihood of the ladies we write about. Read one of my reviews and I doubt if you will say that I wrote it in 15 min. Its not just me, but the ladies also are waiting for it to be posted as well as other hobbyist that may want to see a particular review of a lady that is not known to them. I have a very full life and usually check in with TER a few times a day, that is hardly something I should be criticized for like you did with your sarcasm. The guys who care and take the time to write a quality review are the guys that make TER tick and give it validity as opposed to other sites.
Chill. Sarcasm, by it's nature, involves exaggeration. While you may have inferred that to mean that I think you have no life, what I meant was what I said at the end. Have some perspective. Unwad your panties, my tongue was firmly in cheek.
Your life is essentially unchanged whether a review is posted in 4 hours or 4days. You have suffered no grievous injury, no scars other than psychological. It's nice when it goes right up, but really - is it worth the grief and anguish and hand wringing and rending of garments I see in posts again and again?
I'll tell you where most of the complaints come from, IMO - those whose free VIP is running out so they hurry up and cobble together a couple of reviews so they can get it going again. Those are the only people a day or two really matter to.
Of course it's all just my opinion - I could be wrong. Thoughts?
After awhile, though, it's sorta like
Come on Puck, I expect more out of you as a moderator than that. Be more respectful. You say sarcasm but its just hiding behind nasty comments that put someone down. TER wouldn't exist without the guys who care about getting their reviews posted. I brought it up once on this board but I guess I'm beating dead horse like all the other guys who feel the same way.
This topic is posted again and again on the boards. It's on the GD board about twice a week, it's been on the Reviewers Only board half a dozen times, it's on every local board. Yes, you brought it up once, like all the other guys who feel the same way. I was having a little fun, and pointing out that it's just a little bit silly. I mean, 30,000 years from now when this is all a big ball of ice, some things just aren't gonna seem quite so important, ya know?
How fast are they supposed to be approved? Tell me - with 3,590 new reviews up - what is an acceptable time frame? An hour? A day?
I apologize for making you feel singled out - it was not meant that way. I wasn't telling you that you have no life. I asked for a little perspective in the midst of the building bitch fest.
Mea culpa.
If you want to be a mod, I suggest you should stick to being the objective referee of discussion board rules. Thats your role, not that of sarcastic editorial.
However I agree that its a waste of time bitching about how TER operates. Almost as big a waste of time bitching about mods.
I think giving people the benefit of the doubt would be a good idea.
keep all in perspective ... otherwise if you are serious I may puke AGAIN!
BARF...BAAAARRRRFFFF... BLATCH...BLETCCH...BLACCH... pick one!
With out those guys, this site wouldn't exist now would it?
Eliminate the childish bickering, fake reviews, and LE presence...I'll pay the donation! Until then, this site does not provide anything but untruths and fantasy, you can get that in penthouse forum!
At least that is what it says on the homepage!
OMG! How did you know?! I tell you, it's tough! I spend 3-4 days hitting the refresh button on my browser every 5 minutes. I can't eat, can't sleep and my employer is getting upset from all the missed time at work. Please speed it up. I go through a hell of a lot of coffee, energy drinks and meth so that I can stay awake to keep-on-a-clickin'
GM sat smugly with their 63% market share as the Beetle and Micro Bus pushed into markets that seemed unimportant. They stayed aloof as Nissan et al pushed into the low margin markets. And finally they were helpless when Lexus blew them out of their safe harbor high margin luxury market. Now their market share is under 30%. That's perspective.
So, now we see that all information media are undergoing a revolution. For example, radio sports commentators with 30 years of experience are being forced to open Twitter accounts and learn to tweet! Maybe 5-6 day turn-around is good enough. But History does not side with smug and non-responsive customer service.
This is really an interesting thread.
After my latest trouble trying to get a review posted (of someone who just posted on this board in the last few days, a very nice experience I might add), I tried chatting here. Nice gal told me a fellow by the name of Puck was who I needed to talk to, as he'd been helpful to her in such situations in the past.
So I PM folks here and ask my questions again, and ask if Puck can't help me.
No, was the answer. And no, no helpful info on why my review was denied was received either.
Some time back after posting and talking to people about a VERY bad experience, I was encouraged to write a review.
That one was denied as well. And even more interesting, I noted what appeared to be a similar bad experience was allowed in a review for awhile--but then that review totally disappeared. It was not an age thing--as all the good reviews from that same time period and before were still up.
That gal pops up from time to time, always good reviews.
So, from MY PERSPECTIVE, I don't know if TER is trustworthy. Setting aside the problem of good reviews not being published, I question what it takes to have a bad one accepted. Seems like any dispute by the provider and they are gone?
Some will say look for lots of good reviews--but if all the bad ones aren't allowed, seems like there are some real problems.
I will say that some semblance of reasonable customer service for reviewers could clear a lot of this up if TER is really who they say they are.
Moderators have zero input on reviews. None. Zilch. We don't know the people who approve reviews. It's above our pay grade.
Y'all go ahead and beat this up some more. I just got laid, I'm in a great mood and am disinclined to cover well-trod ground again.
Great time to ask me to unmoderate you, btw - in the post-coital glow I'll be predisposed to magnanimity. ldm51560, don't bother asking - I already unmoderated you, just cuz. Play nice.
Actually we KNOW that you have nothing to do with it. And you seem like an otherwise fairly smart guy. That's why it's kind of annoying when you defend it.
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As several others have said, the concern is about customer service.
I am a volunteer for a completely unrelated (but far bigger) web site with customers all over the country, and also large international participation. Our written standard for members is "up to 12-24 hours" to review certain uploads and submissions, but in reality, most of the work is reviewed in minutes or a few hours at most. Every day of the week, seven days a week.
Part of the reason is that the owners have found enough respected volunteer helpers to run the team at almost all hours of the night or day, and the owners themselves do reviews every single day to fill in the slack.
I frankly don't care if this topic has been repeated a hundred times on a hundred regional boards. This is my home area. I'm fairly new on TER. For every "active" forum poster or reviewer, there are clearly dozens more who prefer to stay under the radar and simply use the site as a tool to participate at whatever their own comfort level is. The cost of membership is fair IMHO, but that is only if the service matches the investment.
It's clear that there is a significant "community" of providers and hobbyists (side note: that's the most ridiculous term I've ever seen, BTW) here on TER. All I'm suggesting is that the web site depends on enough quality input by enough of both, so that the folks who are involved have the tools to make informed decisions. Being able to do so in a timely manner is a big part of that.
PUCK- please pass the word up the chain on TER that the natives are restless, and politely requesting better communication and more timely customer service. Thanks for your efforts on our behalf.
