Hey all maybe it’s just me , I’m totally last minute, but are others running into response issues with some (not all) of the massage girls/schedulers, especially newer girls?  I have been around a long time but have not really encountered lack of response like I see now in the past.  Likely just me and if so thats cool but to get zero response is a bit frustrating.  And no I am too tame to be on a blacklist at least I think. 😉

And have their heads up there asses!!!  If they had their shit together the talent they bring in and burn out on a regular basis would bring in more money then Hugh Hefner himself at the playboy mansion.  They treat their valued clients like ass, have crappy places in high crime areas with sub standard units. Come on let’s get real. So many dudes I’ve talked to are fed up but we are all handcuffed because they have the best talent.  

Threads about this issue popup every month or two.

Same experience here.  Have been inactive for a year. Didn't expect it to be difficult to get a massage but have had the same problem with no responses.  Seems to be a different world than years ago.

Yep, me too, been out a couple of years with medical issues. I had a reply on the first contact wanting my reference's.
Then when no reply, asked them what was going on and was told reference's where to old, that they only clear by a email reference, no other options on the table. Then the next time you answer a add not knowing the girl is in the group you will not get a reply. Bottom line is they don't need you right now.

I have had very similar problems. I have been around a long time and have some current reviews with ladies willing to give a referral. Based on reviews and recommendations I have emailed plenty of ladies that are on ME. Most don't respond or I get a response stating they are not accepting "new" clients right now . And yet I read reviews of these girls and I know they are not repeat customers!! As much as i want to see a few of them I have just given up asking.. such a shame for me and for them!!

It is beginning to sound like more then a few providers could build up on hell of a nest egg on the clients who are not being responded to.
Appears to be a unique business model.
Have no idea why many do not cut and run and become independent as am sure not all have their dance cards filled.

There seem to be a lucky 10-15 guys that see these girls on a somewhat weekly basis that can get in or know how to get in around the scheduler.
  These definitely are not the days like 6 years ago (pre-ordinance) where you could get day of appts easy. Are there really that many more guys doing this??? The posts about these places make it seem there is a waiting line of 5 guys to see each one of the girls at all times.
  Plus alot of those girls weren't scared and became independent and stuck around and were fun for many years past ordinance (Lake Lyndale ladies)..

Interesting idea Ranger.  Among the 7 hobbyists on this thread there looks to be over 500 reviews written so it's not like we're unknown quantities.  Expect there are more in the same boat.  A ready made market?  Just gotta keep trying i guess.

Many dont cut and go indie because many have said they dont know how to screen properly and they feel "safe" having others do that for them.  The business side can be a full-time job as well which can be too much for some to handle, but they could be making way more dough going indie if they were smart.   They have so many guys booking that they dont respond to many emails.  Its frustrating thats for sure.   Stick to XO and legit agencies like that who usually respond within a half hour.

Scheduler doesn’t need to risk or spend too much of their time getting new guys, when there are already guys that are screened waiting to be let in.  Scheduler knows who their VIPs are, they have more guys than they have rooms available. It’s all about the available room, not available girl. Each ‘unit’ has two rooms, with anywhere between 4-8 girls partying throughout the day. Rooms are almost always booked, but a girl may not get a client all day. The girls that been doing this for sometime party as they watch the new blood get booked solid. Shit one girl was so happy I booked with her she let me fuck her for admission price if I promise to rebook her again soon. Both times I still left the standard tip. Keep in mind these girls talk about the clients while they party with the scheduler. You seem like a cheapskate you’ll be lower on the totem pole.  

I wish i could hug every last one of you for having to feel so ignored!  

I appreciate the advice, but you are already paying a few hundred to have fun with a hot girl, why add extra money for tips. If a pro's rate is $300 that is what I'm paying.

If someone will pay $300, there’s independents (including some who use assistants for scheduling) who won’t be all this hassle, and won’t be sharing a room with several other providers, for that kind of money or a little more.  

Recently I had the situation where I had some free time that afternoon.  Reached out to a well reviewed massage person to see if by some chances she might have some time later that afternoon.  Got a fairly quick response that she was fully booked.  It was a long shot.  So I said thanks.    

I have been in this hobby for a long time - 6 years if not more. Never had one issue with any agency/group or independent providers. You guys complain about providers “blacklisting” or not replying and go straight to these forums and bitch like little kids. Look in the mirror and see that maybe your the problem? Common sense. What did you say or do to to make someone feel unsafe and blacklist you. Start biting your tongue!!

I have had the same issue in the past. It seems like if one of the schedulers or their providers doesn’t like you they ban you. I’ve ditched the email crap and got a hobby line and started seeing mostly independent providers who aren’t in a corona filled apartment since that huge COVID situation going on I feel way more comfortable going to private ladies. Although there’s not many left you can still find some good ones. I never was a fan of going to the brothels.

There are guys in this thread with a lot more than 6 years experience and the reviews to back it up who are encountering this problem.  Do you think they all suddenly forgot how to approach providers and successfully get an appointment?  The board exists in part to discuss issues clients have trying to see providers and this is a problem that keeps coming up.

Sounds like the stimulus money is comin in.Im sure the girls will be bz.

I have been at this for 20 plus years. First started seeking “Escorts” in the yellow pages, then back page of City Pages that then turned into PackPage online followed by Craigslist. Eros mn TER have all been quality tools in finding quality services.  

Is out of the question , unless your a fucktard.  

Lucky I appreciate your view but the point is many in this thread have been vip and trust me pay well.  The only point was it’s odd to seemingly not respond to those who frequented you location 2-3 times per week.  

Agreed but only a couple of the are 8 girls and two rooms.  I’ll bet it creates a nasty competitive environment.

You really do have a problem posting without using the words fucktard and ho, don't you.  What are you, 12?  

Seriously, why do you and a bunch of others care so much for what terminology someone uses? If it bothers you so much just scroll away, what do you think you're going to accomplish engaging?
You are complaining about pissing contests, and yet you just dropped your pants and joined in.

I'm sorry I'm one of them. I'm not much of a texter in general. It's so difficult to keep up with the text messages that I completely miss blocks of them at times and don't respond for days. I wish there was an easier way to set up dates because I'm terrible at keeping up with texts the way it is now. I'm sorry 😞

I think many people in biz tend to ignore marketing because they see the money comes during the sales part.  So why spend time on something with no direct payoff.

Big boy your missing the point and assuming we are whining.  It’s an odd observation period especially for those of us who have been doing this as VIPs for years!  16 for me.  Give some grace dude.

Yes Lester and any good business person like many vips here know sales are fleeting and temporary without the long term marketing relationships.  I think someone will fill the void and be very happy monetarily.

I used to have my number on ads to make contact more convenient for potential clients but like you said, it often become so overwhelming that you miss things at times. It didn't help that many men would either waste time or would send screening info a bit at a time. It was such a headache that at some point I looked at the data: inquiries that led to bookings via text vs. inquiries that led to bookings via email. The data was clear and I took my number off my ads.  

Lol please shut up

They are the gate keepers.  

I have no opinion on that as a marketing strategy but it might help with you're being bad at responding to texts.

Because it's a very effective way to drive the ladies away from the board.  I can give 2 fuks what some of you rant about but the constant assault on providers has left this board with a men/women ration of about 20:1 and that's pathetic.

If JoeBush is right and it sounds like he is there is like 2-3 locations with maybe 8-10 girls at each location and only 2-3 rooms - thats crazy talk. Back 5-6 years ago there were like 5-6 rooms for 6-7 ladies. Sounds like someone needs to open another location and bring some of the ladies over there (what happened to all the business type offices ) I am guessing they were more expensive and too cautionary to use.
I have been reading reviews for years and find it funny how many guys are willing to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars and tip a girl basically double than her rate just to have sex with a massage girl (on a mattress on a floor, on a massage table. in a cramped room). You guys make it sound like having sex with a massage girl for an outrageous price is a trophy and you are so lucky. There are many many ladies out there that will do more than these massage girls do in a much better atmosphere and at a much lower price. And you never have to get frustrated that they never respond to you. But keep the reviews coming, its hilarious what guys are willing to spend to be just a number.

We pay women to touch our crusty ass dicks. That in itself is a little pathetic. Get off your high house, we're all perverts.

Using your own logic, why make it harder on ourselves in the process?  You get more out of life if you avoid shooting yourself in the foot and that's what has occurred on this board.  The majority of providers have found elsewhere to sell their wares.

If some rando saying "ho, whore, etc" on some forum board is making it hard for you to book an appointment, that's your own fault. If you really think being positive on this site will get you more out of life that's really sad. Go to those elsewhere, what is stopping you?

Gotta give credit , pretty impressive hanging that award  on the mantle in only three months !!!

What I don’t have a problem with , is simply pointing out in no uncertain terms and without pandering for some bullshit approval .  Yours, Mods or any others.  

3 months?

You simply don't (intentionally won't) get it.  You'd rather argue than listen.  I have no issue booking appointments.  The issue is the lack of females participating on this board.  Maybe you've never had interaction with members of the opposite sex without handing them money first but it creates options that you otherwise wouldn't be aware of.

Gave the crickets to two of them right in this post. Who I might add ,stayed on point to the real topic in the thread.  

If you don't have problem with booking then why bring it up? I read your post, it's still pathetic. Again, why do you care so much? Why do you care if females talk to you on an internet board, are you that desperate to get attention from a female companion on an internet board?
You'd rather do a passive aggressive "maybe you." I'll do the opposite, you are pathetic. I cannot believe you get something out of life interacting with companions on an internet board. I'm not going to say maybe. You clearly are a man that only talks to women after cash is exchanged or through an internet board. Are you out of money? Is that why you are complaining about the lack of female interaction? Go to those elsewhere places if you want that female "interaction."
I probably get better options than you. I have a lovely wife  whom I am in an open relationship with. What's a better option than that? Waiting on female posters to make a post for you to respond to?

... why do YOU care at all that someone enjoys having providers participate on boards like this?  Just because he and others enjoy their participation doesn’t mean you have to.  
I can recall a lot of fun threads here in which providers participated, back when they did so regularly.  I can’t for the life of me understand why someone would think that enjoying those kinds of threads is “pathetic”.

And do YOU care that I care that he cares? Dumbass.

From my experience with well known popular and well established providers not alot of them use there phone # in ads and mainly are email only. One lady I saw a few years ago tells me text is the best easy to get ahold of her over email even though she gets 50-100 texts a day and a bunch probably when I was on that date with her. To me thats crazy and that is bp girl territory. My opinion is if the lady is popular and booking regularly just use an email address. Posting a phone # and complaining that 80% of the texts and calls are crap and the guys will never see them well take your # down duh (girls complain about this on twitter all the time). They pretty much post there # for the attention and complain when it gets out of hand. If the lady likes you then she will give you her phone # and you are in VIP style and you can get in before all the other wannabes. Most ladies have different #s. Just make sure you get the good one.

A few have posted you know scheduler's and if any scheduler see this please post you are email reference only in your add and Independents please state so. feel free to chime in. You then would be saving both sides a lot of time
Scheduler's and provider's of them chime in please. We know your just sitting on the couch bitching about
 Mr. Crusty Cock hygiene anyway. Do it ! PLEASE

No, Idiot, it doesn't serve my personal life at all.  It used to bring other opportunities though as the providers got to know many of the mongers through mostly industry related discussion.  Case in point, the topic of "BBBJ length" is relatively new (posted 1 month ago).  When this board flourished, there would have been dozens of known women chiming in about their skills, what they liked or specialized in etc.   Is there a single guy in here that wouldn't want to read about what they claim they can do then be able to follow up on it?

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