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Re: Some suggestions
SoS8:10 1118 reads
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Whitney IS great!  Great suggestions.  I just assume this guy wanting GFE would not be interested in anyone NOT FS.  So, I won't go there.

What I don't understand is that if Natalie sounds good, what could really be so bad about just seeing her and finding out for yourself?  She's got a lot of fans.  GFE to one and not the other aside, just try.  She seems great...

mattgembel2308 reads

My ATF got married this summer and she moved to Canada last weekend. We were very close. We were like in a real relationship; no clock watching, often met for lunch between her appointments, went shopping together. She gave me the ultimate GFE that no one would. I have not seen other providers for almost 9 years; so now I don't know who the best and the most trusted providers are in town. The search has begun, but I am too lazy and too cheap for trial and error. I've looked up some of the MN providers on TER like Erin Lee, Natalie Chambers but I am not convinced. Who are the best providers? Who does offer GFE? There are million reviews of providers out there, and I need to narrow down. So please advise me who I should see.

Thanks!

.............always a matter of seeing women who have the potential to become regulars for you.  First of all, if your expectation is that you will find someone who will step into the shoes of your former ATF, you have set the bar too high, imho.  As we all know chemistry is the key ingredient to any long term relationship both here in the hobby and in civvie life.  Every new encounter is YMMV.  A woman I have extraordinary chemistry with may not appeal to you at all.  Since most of us bring different affinities, likes and dislikes into our hobbying, the first place to start are reviews.  I always look for reviews that describe activities I enjoy and things like personality and body type  I find attractive.  I don't believe there is any quick and easy way to find a new ATF.  I think you will have to do it the “old fashioned” way, make some appointments with women you like, Natalie is a good start, then have fun and let nature (and your wallet) take its course..   Have fun with your search, you have the potential to see some of the hottest women in MN, what guy wouldn't love that?

I'm sorry I would not call Natalie GFE...She is smoking hot but far from GFE

Posted By: mnjohnny247
.............always a matter of seeing women who have the potential to become regulars for you.  First of all, if your expectation is that you will find someone who will step into the shoes of your former ATF, you have set the bar too high, imho.  As we all know chemistry is the key ingredient to any long term relationship both here in the hobby and in civvie life.  Every new encounter is YMMV.  A woman I have extraordinary chemistry with may not appeal to you at all.  Since most of us bring different affinities, likes and dislikes into our hobbying, the first place to start are reviews.  I always look for reviews that describe activities I enjoy and things like personality and body type  I find attractive.  I don't believe there is any quick and easy way to find a new ATF.  I think you will have to do it the “old fashioned” way, make some appointments with women you like, Natalie is a good start, then have fun and let nature (and your wallet) take its course..   Have fun with your search, you have the potential to see some of the hottest women in MN, what guy wouldn't love that?

Posted By: flightexpress
I'm sorry I would not call Natalie GFE...She is smoking hot but far from GFE
Posted By: mnjohnny247
.............always a matter of seeing women who have the potential to become regulars for you.  First of all, if your expectation is that you will find someone who will step into the shoes of your former ATF, you have set the bar too high, imho.  As we all know chemistry is the key ingredient to any long term relationship both here in the hobby and in civvie life.  Every new encounter is YMMV.  A woman I have extraordinary chemistry with may not appeal to you at all.  Since most of us bring different affinities, likes and dislikes into our hobbying, the first place to start are reviews.  I always look for reviews that describe activities I enjoy and things like personality and body type  I find attractive.  I don't believe there is any quick and easy way to find a new ATF.  I think you will have to do it the “old fashioned” way, make some appointments with women you like, Natalie is a good start, then have fun and let nature (and your wallet) take its course..   Have fun with your search, you have the potential to see some of the hottest women in MN, what guy wouldn't love that?

mattgembel1282 reads

are you not that far from it? Can we have a chit-chat to find out? ;)



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Posted By: mattgembel
are you not that far from it? Can we have a chit-chat to find out? ;)



-- Modified on 11/10/2012 1:18:01 AM

provides a great GFE! And she tastes wonderful!

No She does not offer GFE..I don't think CBJ and other rules are GFE..I don't blame her for that she is a wonderfull provider, but I would not call her GFE

Posted By: vallen
provides a great GFE! And she tastes wonderful!

Posted By: flightexpress
No She does not offer GFE..I don't think CBJ and other rules are GFE..I don't blame her for that she is a wonderfull provider, but I would not call her GFE
Posted By: vallen
provides a great GFE! And she tastes wonderful!

So you have become the arbiter of GFE on this board?  Most of us here trust Vallen's judgement since he is a known poster and reviewer and has cred, something you, flightexpress, have none of, zero!  Her rules?? If you have seen her let's see a review or otherwise we will just asume your comments represent second hand information which is worthless.  The GFE, imho, is as much the quality of the fantasy the provider creates for you as much as it is specific acts. Her dates are GFE according to the men who have experienced her, nuff said!

Posted By: flightexpress
No She does not offer GFE..I don't think CBJ and other rules are GFE..I don't blame her for that she is a wonderfull provider, but I would not call her GFE


No need to come out in full armour he was just giving his opinion that a GFE includes BBBJ and many people agree. GFE is just one of those terms that could mean something different to everyone. Me personally I would not totally disqualify someone from being a GFE for a CBJ but maybe call it GFE light.

Natalie did NOT choose to be the subject of this thread.  The OP put her out there and I mentioned her is passing not even referring to her GFE qualities but implying that she could be an ATF (which is a FACT, she is an ATF for one hobbyist, see the Friday Shill 2 weeks ago).  Then the crap was dumped on her.  Don't you posters realize that these type of posts can damage a provider's business, while you sit smuggly hidden by your computer screen.  Tciked off, yeah it ticks me off.  Again, she did not put herself out there for this, so just knock it off.  Oh and BTW, we have posters with no prior board postings or in one case one prior posting chiming in on her.  What's that all about?  There are credible members of TER who vouch for her, that should be enough.  Find something else to do today besides bash Natalie.

My POd 2 cents

I'll second that. I gave Natalie's very first TER review, and very much stand behind it. And would very much like to stand behind *her* again soon, now that the image comes to mind. ;)

Posted By: ouiiski
I'll second that. I gave Natalie's very first TER review, and very much stand behind it. And would very much like to stand behind *her* again soon, now that the image comes to mind. ;)

Your acting like your married to her....I do not call her GFE I have seen her twice...I have a life I'm not old were I really don't need to do this...You have no life.....Grandpa

I've seen her twice  and sorry I have a life unlike you I don't review....

Posted By: mnjohnny247
So you have become the arbiter of GFE on this board?  Most of us here trust Vallen's judgement since he is a known poster and reviewer and has cred, something you, flightexpress, have none of, zero!  Her rules?? If you have seen her let's see a review or otherwise we will just asume your comments represent second hand information which is worthless.  The GFE, imho, is as much the quality of the fantasy the provider creates for you as much as it is specific acts. Her dates are GFE according to the men who have experienced her, nuff said!
Posted By: flightexpress
No She does not offer GFE..I don't think CBJ and other rules are GFE..I don't blame her for that she is a wonderfull provider, but I would not call her GFE


Unless, of course, she doesn't allow anything at all, including daty, lfk, dfk.   It is as much the ladies attitude, the environment and the fantasy that creates the best "Girlfriend experience".



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The OP has a right to express his opinion. Many of us disagree. This does not make him wrong. But again, this is a matter of taste. Back in the day of untreatable HIV/AIDS, when we didn't know how infectious it was, girlfriends DID give covered blow jobs, and boyfriends did perform covered DATY.

I for one think Natalie is a marvelous GFE, by my own definition and Belinda's, which I agree with.

And you are entitled to it and there are many hobbyists who would agree that GFE requires BBBJ.  There are also many who don't.  GFE has become a very subjective term.  This is one of those times when people simply should agree to disagree.

I agree, Natalie is NOT a GFE. She is hot, but not even close to GFE.

mattgembel1476 reads

I understand; I cannot set the bar too high. All I want is to meet a provider with a great personality that will treat me well. Then we go from there.

Stop:  If you are looking for similar set of circumstances with another provider as described in your message, I would simply stop looking. It sounds like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Exclusive:  In any case, perhaps the best bet for what you are looking for may be achieved with an exclusive arrangement with a provider. However, exclusive arrangements are usually not cheap.

Ask Her:  Why did you not ask your lovely lady friend for her recommendations?

Guess:  Did your provider include in her name the word "Sweet"? Will you identify her to the board in general?

Hurt:  The nine year thing almost sounds like a common-law marriage. How much pain was felt when she married someone else (and not you)?

mattgembel1094 reads

I agree with you. I don't think I will find a replacement of what I had, but I would like to meet a provider that can pretend like I am the only one. That's just an excellent customer service I guess, and when someone is very happy, you get rewarded. I know majority of providers won't date their hobby friends, but we can still be friends.

I did ask recommendations from my lady friend, but none of them I fancy.

Yes, nine years is a long time. I met her when she was 20, and we met almost once a week since. I practically was her sugardaddy. I have my own family; so I knew all along that the relationship would end one day, but it still hurt because you lost a very good friend.  

Posted By: turboted
Stop:  If you are looking for similar set of circumstances with another provider as described in your message, I would simply stop looking. It sounds like a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

Exclusive:  In any case, perhaps the best bet for what you are looking for may be achieved with an exclusive arrangement with a provider. However, exclusive arrangements are usually not cheap.

Ask Her:  Why did you not ask your lovely lady friend for her recommendations?

Guess:  Did your provider include in her name the word "Sweet"? Will you identify her to the board in general?

Hurt:  The nine year thing almost sounds like a common-law marriage. How much pain was felt when she married someone else (and not you)?

The off-the-clock activities (as described by yourself) are quite unusual.

In my experiences, the clock is an ever-present dimension. For example, the last provider I met had an alarm clock that went off at the conclusion of our 90 minute session.

In any case, -- after thinking about your situation a bit -- perhaps your best bet to replicate things with a new provider is to have your former provider share everything (all the things that make you happy, loyal, generous and returning every week) with your yet to be identified future provider.

I can't think of many local, veteran providers that would not want to bank a virtually guaranteed donation over the course of years. Thus, you are perhaps the gold-standard for a client.

If you don't mind the feeling of being played-to, then a surrogate provider may be able to take the place of your treasured provider.

It is unfortunate that none of your provider's recommendations proved inviting. Good Luck!

I've had a couple of ladies I saw for multiple years that either left the business or are in an area I don't visit anymore. We're still Facebook friends... maybe not the best idea. Anyway, I don't think you can try to replace that directly. Just visit a few ladies that look interesting to you and see if you hit it off. If you do, a few more visits and you may be on your way. Just don't come on too strong too quickly. While I'm sure all the ladies like regulars, no one wants a stalker. :) That said, I've had the pleasure of seeing a few ladies in MN over the last year  - 4 in the last few months - that are all GFE and all worth seeing. None have offered any off the clock activities (nor do I expect them to), but they've been great experiences and people I'd like to see again and again.

I think it is something that just happens over time....you cannot go looking for it.

Xoxo

Posted By: mattgembel
My ATF got married this summer and she moved to Canada last weekend. We were very close. We were like in a real relationship; no clock watching, often met for lunch between her appointments, went shopping together. She gave me the ultimate GFE that no one would. I have not seen other providers for almost 9 years; so now I don't know who the best and the most trusted providers are in town. The search has begun, but I am too lazy and too cheap for trial and error. I've looked up some of the MN providers on TER like Erin Lee, Natalie Chambers but I am not convinced. Who are the best providers? Who does offer GFE? There are million reviews of providers out there, and I need to narrow down. So please advise me who I should see.

Thanks!

mattgembel1299 reads

Absolutely. My relationship with her was 9 year long; I earned her trust. It just sucks that I have to start over.

Posted By: amberamber
I think it is something that just happens over time....you cannot go looking for it.

Xoxo
Posted By: mattgembel
My ATF got married this summer and she moved to Canada last weekend. We were very close. We were like in a real relationship; no clock watching, often met for lunch between her appointments, went shopping together. She gave me the ultimate GFE that no one would. I have not seen other providers for almost 9 years; so now I don't know who the best and the most trusted providers are in town. The search has begun, but I am too lazy and too cheap for trial and error. I've looked up some of the MN providers on TER like Erin Lee, Natalie Chambers but I am not convinced. Who are the best providers? Who does offer GFE? There are million reviews of providers out there, and I need to narrow down. So please advise me who I should see.

Thanks!

There so many fine GFE in MPLS, the cheaper, the less you get! I think your off the clock stuff is over. Trust me on this! Good Luck

mattgembel1266 reads

Agreed. I won't have free off-the-clock activities.

Posted By: T-ricky
There so many fine GFE in MPLS, the cheaper, the less you get! I think your off the clock stuff is over. Trust me on this! Good Luck

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you and I shared the same ATF?   Hummm, I thought I was the only hobbyist seeing her, guess she played both of us?

Since you're not sharing names, I won't tell you my past ATF!!!   Maybe yours, maybe not?

From the clues supplied in the original poster's message, the one provider that may fit the description is Alexxia Nile.

She disappeared from the scene earlier this summer. Her profile on Preferred411 listed her last location as Halifax, Nova Scotia. Also, her age (a last advertisement listed her age at 28) would fit the noted guidelines. Finally, she billed herself as the "ultimate GFE."

In any case, I wish the best for Ms. Nile.

Disclaimer:  I could be wrong.

......in the quote you talk about being practically a sugar daddy to your former ATF.  Maybe you should consider a sugar daddy/sugar baby (sd/sb) relationship.  Some of us have had success with this form of relationship.  It lets you have more exclusive access for a fixed rate each month.  There is generally no clock and activites such as dinners out and shopping (with you buying, of course) are common.  There are several sites that promote these relationships, some are scams but a couple of them are quite good.  PM me for details.  Like the hobby, not for everyone, but it is an alternative for some.

Posted By: mattgembel
Yes, nine years is a long time. I met her when she was 20, and we met almost once a week since. I practically was her sugardaddy.


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There are many top notch providers in the MSP area.  While your situation seems a bit unique, I'm fairly confident that you'll find a local lady who can meet your needs.  

Read reviews, pay attention to detail, and exercise your wallet.

Without any idea of what sort of woman to whom you are most attracted, it is difficult to give you informed opinions.  If you narrow it down some, you can get better answers.  Even so, some trial and error is almost guaranteed.

mattgembel1759 reads

...I met the girl 9 years ago when she was 20. We met average 3 times a month which about 325 times by now. So I guess she really considered me as a friend or at least as a trusted regular.

As for the off-the-clock activities, these were more like when her TV broke, and she needed a new one; so we went to Costco to buy a new TV (of course I had to pay for it), or when she graduated from college, we went shopping for a set of pearl earings. Since my work close to her place in Edina/Bloomington area, my girl usually asked me if I wanted to go to lunch with her, and of course I paid for these too. So again, the relationship I had with her was beyond the usual one. It took years to get to this point, and it sucks big time that I have to start over now.

BTW, I will not to reveal the identity of my former provider. She is retired, and she has a family now. I respect her greatly.

And start meeting some of our marvelous MSP providers.

For young very hot spinner GFE type - Poppy
For young milf and a bit curvy GFE with nice rack - Kali
For mature, tall, legs that go all the way up, very nice rack, GFE & PSE - Portia
I have heard that Whitney is great but never got around to her.

SoS8:101119 reads

Whitney IS great!  Great suggestions.  I just assume this guy wanting GFE would not be interested in anyone NOT FS.  So, I won't go there.

What I don't understand is that if Natalie sounds good, what could really be so bad about just seeing her and finding out for yourself?  She's got a lot of fans.  GFE to one and not the other aside, just try.  She seems great...

Because if I know our lovely and entrepreneurial ladies like I think I do, I suspect you will be overwhelmed with offers to help fill the void. Remember, dude, you are in the drivers seat on this one, do the math, you are like a frigging annuity for some lucky girl who wins the prize, so unless you are a total gargoyle devoid of any charm whatsoever I would suggest this; dive into and relish the variety out there, do some repeats with those you really dig, make it clear what you want and trust you will find it if you invest the effort in the field research. The marketplace is a wonderful little thing that has a magical way of satisfying demand, and it will eventually for you.

Wendy is super hot and GFE, Francesca is also awesome, Samantha Good fantastic. It WOULD be nice if you gave a description of what you are looking for physically and age wise.

TheFuzzyBear997 reads

"She gave me the ultimate GFE that no one would."  You had a 9 year exclusive relationship with her so don't expect to fill that void very fast.  You also can't expect others to eliminate the trial and error process that it requires to know if you have chemistry with another provider.  Just one of the hazards of this hobby, our friends have changes in their lives and move on.

thumper69691177 reads

You may not want to say it in public, even though we don't know you or her, but I suspect you mean bbfs when you say "She gave me the ultimate GFE that no one would".

You may find over a period of time, with the right provider, that if you spend that kind of money and want an exclusive arrangement (after you shop for her for a few months) you will get that kind of special service.

mattgembel1585 reads

Thanks for all your responses guys! No need to bicker though :)

I will start contacting our Minnesota ladies soon.

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