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Well I very much appreciate this thread and your honest opinion.  I learned some things that never occurred to me

Rock_Hart4208 reads

Two facts:

1.  Of course a girl says she prefers longer visits.  She gets more money, less hassle and probably, has to deal with less cum.

2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.  

Before you start hating, yes, I understand economics and the hourly nature of the business.  It just always makes me laugh when I see some of the marketing material.

Who cares what I think, except for my psychiatrist.  Then again....he won't give me three hours for the price of one either.

It is possible that they actually do prefer to see fewer guys, and are willing to get a little less money in exchange for each guy staying longer. It's also possible they actually do like longer sessions because they like foreplay. (Including conversation, which is itself like sex to women.)

Yup, seconding you and korinne. I love first time 90 min appointments because then we can squeeze in some wine or coffee and chat more which makes the whole experience more intimate for me.

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I think a discount on additional hours does demonstrate a real preference.  If the rate increased that would demonstrate a preference for shorter visits.

Posted By: Rock_Hart
Two facts:  
2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.

And if a longer visit equals a lower hourly rate, I might go for it.  But if it's all the same hourly rate then probably just the hour.

The worst is when they mention their preference for longer appointments and then they charge  300/60  500/90  WTF? Why penalize the client for booking more time? I don't get it.

     

Posted By: Rock_Hart
Two facts:  
   
 1.  Of course a girl says she prefers longer visits.  She gets more money, less hassle and probably, has to deal with less cum.  
   
 2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.    
   
 Before you start hating, yes, I understand economics and the hourly nature of the business.  It just always makes me laugh when I see some of the marketing material.  
   
 Who cares what I think, except for my psychiatrist.  Then again....he won't give me three hours for the price of one either.

They suck at math😗

Posted By: Dr.BudGreen
And if a longer visit equals a lower hourly rate, I might go for it.  But if it's all the same hourly rate then probably just the hour.  
   
 The worst is when they mention their preference for longer appointments and then they charge  300/60  500/90  WTF? Why penalize the client for booking more time? I don't get it.  
   
       
   
Posted By: Rock_Hart
Two facts:  
     
  1.  Of course a girl says she prefers longer visits.  She gets more money, less hassle and probably, has to deal with less cum.  
     
  2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.    
     
  Before you start hating, yes, I understand economics and the hourly nature of the business.  It just always makes me laugh when I see some of the marketing material.  
     
  Who cares what I think, except for my psychiatrist.  Then again....he won't give me three hours for the price of one either.

About fact number two...

 Makes sense. I mean, take yoga instructors, painters, musicians and authors. They all love what they do (in theory) and of course they prefer to do what they love for longer rather than shorter periods of time. Thats -only obvious- because, mostly, they charge flat rates for the labor of their craft/art, which compensates an hour of their time. Anything above and beyond an hour is just preformed at no extra compensation -because you know, they do it for the love of it. The ones who prefer to spend less time doing what they love, those are the ones that expect higher compensation for more time invested. .... PUH-LEASE!

 Haha. This logic is simply asinine.
I do like longer dates. I don't see any ol' Joe that reaches out to see me. Screening helps me to try to determine a 'good fit' as well as ensure my safety. I actually enjoy what I do and value the connections I make. And guess what. If I'm investing my genuine passion, efforts and artistic (oh yes, it's an art) abilities at 100% of my capabilities for 3 hours, I will be compensated accordingly. 3 hours is not equivelant to 1, regardless of how you think a woman should charge for something she loves to do/experience.

 But hey, laughing is good. So thanks for the laugh.

 
 Sugar, spice & spunk,

 Alexa :-p

 


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I challenge you to meet one that is on the clock, i.e. and hourly rate.  They put in countless hours to create something timeless (good bad or otherwise and that is in the eye of the beholder).

The output of the painter, musician, or author is the sum of hours and hours of labor in his/her craft.  If I recall the party (and panty wearing line) you and every other provider charge for your time, by the hour.  Apples and oranges, your assertion sux.  Yoga instructors...well they need to get a real joby job.  Asinine is a matter of perspective.  Enjoy your time in our local community um...Alexa

In any profession. A salesperson, for example, spends hours outside of their 9-5 obligation, honing in on their craft. Seminars, material, books etc. A lawyer is constantly studying law.  Any person who enjoys their craft is constantly working to improve on it.  

  As far as an hourly rate, a musician will charge more to play a 3 hour show than a 1 hr sjow. A mural painter, definitely will factor time invested into the project when payment is due. Personal trainers/yoga instructors/pilates instructors and the like, charge and hourly fee. For the person with fitness goals, paying for one on one time for soecific results is an investment,  well made.

  Of course, I don't need to spell this out for you.  Furthermore,  "A real job" is also a matter of perspective.  

Ciao.

......indeed, I almost never book a one-hour session.  90-120 minutes are my preferred time frame.  

Heck, 3-4 hours would be my preferred time frame, were it not for that pesky little problem called "I can't afford it!!!"

But, I agree with what seems to be an obvious point: 90 or 120 minutes with the same guy is a LOT less work--in preparation, etc.--than breaking that same period of time into two separate sessions with two different guys...so, for the life of me, I cannot figure why a lady will post something like this:

1.0 hr: 300
1.5 hr: 450
2.0 hr: 600  

I almost never go to a lady with such a price structure.  I WILL go to a lady with something like this:

1.0 hr: 300
1.5 hr: 400
2.0 hr: 500

Don't get me wrong: I also think the longer period of time allows for more time for connection--small talk, flirting, lots more sex play, etc.

But, I can't understand why ladies don't routinely discount--at least a bit--the longer periods of time.  I realize that lots of ladies DO discount like this.  But, I don't understand those ladies who don't.

Am I missing something?

My two cents.

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I'm one of those girls that you don't understand, and I'm having to rethink that question myself...

Thank you for making me think about that.  For me, I just don't like to make things complicated.  But I added half hours, and that gets complicated, too.  All have their pros and cons, but longer visits are easier WHEN two people connect.  Otherwise, an hour is more than plenty

& right when you've got that awesome rate posted for the 90mi. 2hr. + time frame.....
You get a new visitor that, know matter how good you screen, just didn't work w/you.

It could be hygiene issues, general rudeness or (rarely) he might look & sound just like my ex, or my uncle.
All of those things have happened to me & another situation or 2 of un-mentionable status  
Yet the memories of each are clear & will 4-ever stay with me. :l  

Anyway after re-thinking it I decided to list my 'I can handle it' rate, & if I chose to discount based on  
true chemistry I do & have very often.  

I'm not being paid for my acting skills, so unfortunately (or fortunatley idk) it's pretty easy to tell when I'm not feeling it.
 
I'm lucky tho...I have a strong sex drive & an ability to truly appreciate many varieties of people. ;) ;)  
                           (personality, & treatment outweigh looks- all the time)

You could state in your ad that the discounted rate for longer sessions is for preferred clients only. Which might make you look stuck up, I don't know, but it could incentivize people you'd end up approving for discount anyway to get their foot in the door. I like hidden benefits when it's from a girl I already see, but otherwise it's just hidden.

And got totally distracted :P

And I did read what you wrote.  Thank you  

Ooxx,
Trin

i've been sitting here trying to find the words to express what you just wrote.

souls_harbor254 reads

I'd guess if all their slots are routinely full, or they are getting all the work they want, there's no reason to discount.

Posted By: oldguy666
......indeed, I almost never book a one-hour session.  90-120 minutes are my preferred time frame.    
   
 Heck, 3-4 hours would be my preferred time frame, were it not for that pesky little problem called "I can't afford it!!!"  
   
 But, I agree with what seems to be an obvious point: 90 or 120 minutes with the same guy is a LOT less work--in preparation, etc.--than breaking that same period of time into two separate sessions with two different guys...so, for the life of me, I cannot figure why a lady will post something like this:  
   
 1.0 hr: 300  
 1.5 hr: 450  
 2.0 hr: 600  
   
 I almost never go to a lady with such a price structure.  I WILL go to a lady with something like this:  
   
 1.0 hr: 300  
 1.5 hr: 400  
 2.0 hr: 500  
   
 Don't get me wrong: I also think the longer period of time allows for more time for connection--small talk, flirting, lots more sex play, etc.  
   
 But, I can't understand why ladies don't routinely discount--at least a bit--the longer periods of time.  I realize that lots of ladies DO discount like this.  But, I don't understand those ladies who don't.  
   
 Am I missing something?  
   
 My two cents.  
   
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I agree with you 100%!! I only book longer visits..typically 2 hours and I will only see ladies who discount for those extended periods. There are certain economies of scale......prep time and screening are  time costs associated with the first hour but not subsequent hours.

Yeah, the joke is really on the fools that enjoy some public time (like at dinner or a show) as a part of the experience and are willing to pay a per hour rate the same or not much less than their one hour private time rates. It's even more hilarious when the playtime for them is less than your one hour visit.  

I used to think treating a lady to a dinner at a nice restaurant OTC would ensure my playtime would be better than if I booked an hour, but it almost never works that way. My last 4 dinner dates (at some pretty nice places) were 1 rounders with ladies known for encouraging multiple pop sessions. It's frustrating to pay 3-4 times their hourly rate and offered half the playtime than your one hour visit.  

You'd think more providers would have better rates for dinner dates when 2 hours is getting paid to eat a nice meal.

pick your providers better.  I've never had a bad dinner date with a couple providers I know.

And I'm betting not many were MN gals - if any.

My advice, tell the gal you don't mind a little chatting & get to know each other time, & offer to bring her fav. Finger food, wine & or whatever else fits for this....this indoor, intimate dining.

For many of us light or no food equals better stamina, confidence of fresh breath, ect. idk it might sound silly but sumtimes it does have an impact.

or at least make sure you get sum funtime in B4 dinner (if u really wanna go out) & I'm sure you'd also get the funtime after....but when a dinner is in play -breaking it into "2 sessions" is gonna make for a much better time...... IMHO

Or like I said keep it light & full energy & offer to bring a fruit tray. ;) & or tell her to break out the massage table.  
Either way you sound like a true gentleman that knows how to treat a lady, wishing u better future luck- happy hobby-ing ;

There was a girl visiting from Milwaukee this summer that I was so close to seeing. Had an hour date set and everything then she pulled the whole she wants 2 hours instead of 1. Problem with that it was double the price of what was actually expected plus her schedule was pretty wide open, not sure she had much luck coming here if she only allowed multiple hour visits.

...hot and horny and new to the biz, who charged 200/60, 300/90, 350/120.  I thought the pricing structure was genius, and told her so.  No half hours, and a reward for staying for two hours.
The trick was to look at the economics as a per visit (not per hour) deal, and screen with a preference for those who might stay longer.  She almost always got more (often 50% more) than 300 per visit.

I went to see her three times.  Each time I ended up staying longer than intended because it was great value.  So I went in thinking I'd spend about 300 and left having given her significantly more.
It wasn't long before she had people lined up around the block, and she picked and chose; it became hard to get to see her and she became even more desirable.  I booked 10 days in advance!  That's unheard of (almost) for me.

Once she had a few reviews, of course, her price went up to 400/60.
She called me a few weeks ago lamenting that she wasn't getting enough business.  She's out of the game for a few months, but I'll be interested to see what her rates are when she starts up again, if she does.  Looking at pricing on a per visit basis is better economics, and probably better for both parties

Sure as hell going to be kicking your ass out.

When I can afford to hobby 2-3 times per week, and still have money left over, I'll leave the one-hour dates in the dust.

in my experience, extended visits are a better deal.  The second hr is less expensive than the first and the third hr is less expensive than the second.  So, if she was JUST interested in MONEY, she would ONLY do hour visits. KACHINK KACHINK -- More Money honey because no discounted second or third hours.

It's better to establish clientele who like longer visits because:
1. She doesn't have to screen as many guys so less time spent on the business side of the business.
2. Slightly less risk because she is seeing fewer guys
3. some ladies like building a rapport and connection to her clients and that can't be done in a 30-60 min session

Getting to know each other is fun!!!  

There are clients you click with that even an hour turn into a multi....

There are times where money is irrelevant.

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Most guys are the same.

Posted By: KyraRossi
There are times where money is irrelevant.  

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The men on this board have always been gentleman.



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...and so on to reflect that I prefer longer dates.  
About #1 a lot of cum can be produced in longer dates too nudge nudge wink wink. :)

Posted By: Rock_Hart
Two facts:  
   
 1.  Of course a girl says she prefers longer visits.  She gets more money, less hassle and probably, has to deal with less cum.  
   
 2.  If a girl really preferred longer visits, she'd have the same price for one hour as she does for three hours.    
   
 Before you start hating, yes, I understand economics and the hourly nature of the business.  It just always makes me laugh when I see some of the marketing material.  
   
 Who cares what I think, except for my psychiatrist.  Then again....he won't give me three hours for the price of one either.

I always do 90 the first date. And I've done 1 he and long dinner dates.
But yes, some one who simply doubles their hour rate (ex: 1- 300/2-600) reflects to me they don't enjoy longer dates.

Some women know what they are doing, business wise, and it shows!  ;-

Every woman is entitled to deciding their own rates. I have never negotiated as I feel that is tacky and pathetic.
Regardless of rates, it is VERY frustrating when some women have different rates on 4 different sites or links!
1. Their personal site
2. TER profile
3. P411
4. Current/weekly *deals*  
Not all, but some do this, ...seems very unorganized.

So sometimes it's confusing, and I just stick to my regulars.

Just an honest opinion ... 😀

Well I very much appreciate this thread and your honest opinion.  I learned some things that never occurred to me

Depending on the type of client.  Sometimes we may have shared interests  (traveling,dining, etc) that makes an extended date fun and practical, or it may be that we just have great physical chemistry where 1-2 hrs together makes more sense.

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