I am thinking of a provider with similar circumstances and wondering if it the same provider I am thinking of or if she has returned despite her legal issues?

I also think you should share the name of the provider in question via pm to protect other hobbyists.

Never carry more cash than you need, leave wallet, ID, credit cards etc home or in vehicle a safe distance away from from providers incall.

If you get to a providers incall and you believe the situation / location is unsafe and provider is drunk / high on drugs turnaround and leave.

I rarely do incalls but when I do, I usually scout the location first for potential trouble and look for an escape route particularly with residential incall locations or economy hotels.

I have been in the hobby for four years and have written fifty some reviews under this and previous handles, with never a hint of a problem. I recently saw a well reviewed former dancer, who had some warnings of overindulgence, prior to, or during a session. She was obviously tipsy, but I proceeded, and placed the envelope and a gift card in plain sight. Some light play, then I took the requested shower. Serious play never got serious as she was dozing off and could not concentrate. Finished myself off and dressed, and found my wallet in the wrong pocket, and empty of two + bens worth of green. When confronted, she actually wanted more green and would not let me pass. I would not force myself past  her, but threatened to call for help. She made a counter threat, then phoned someone. A rap on the door and her pimp stood there, but made no threats and I was gone. I did not take proper precautions that I have read about for years and should have been more alert to obvious warning signs. I will be more careful in the future and  I hope she straightens her biz plan out.

I am  interested in what kind of precautions you think you shoud have or could have taken. I have never been confronted by a pimp, I'll bet that was a scary experience even if you are a formidable dude.

Just once, sweet jesus, I wish these warning posts would be clear on exactly how the girl managed to get to the guys wallet. Always, they simply skip over that crucial aspect.

"I was in the shower and suddenly, I looked up and my wallet was missing money!"

When you disrobe and place your clothes wherever they land, do you not realize that several hundred dollars reside there and to make absolutely sure you keep your pants in your sight at all times? Do you high profile dudes (gift card?? wtf?!?) actually believe in the fairytale world so much that you will voluntarily walk into the shower and leave your pants FULL OF CASH behind in the living room??!?

Don't mean to come off as insensitive, it must have been an uncomfortable experience but good lord, going to an appointment with SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE than what the girl requires, not making sure you know where your money and wallet is at all times, is just asking for something bad to happen.

Even if the girl was upright and a straight shooter, a wallet full of cash in plain view would tempt even the purest heart.

Then to absolutely make a complete mockery of the entire situation, you come on the board to complain and still exercise the same gentlemanly tomfoolery by NOT naming her.

I give up.

Ohhhh. So many simple things could have been done (or not done) to avoid the entire problem.  And, I am sure the OP now knows that.  

First, I don't see women who are drunk or on drugs.  If there is something about it in a previous review I don't go. And, if I suspect it when I first arrive, I just simply leave.  I don't care about drinking, but there is pretty much no level of performance with a drunk or someone who is high.  

I always know the fee going in, and NEVER bring my wallet or any extra money with me.  I don't fall for any upcharges, but if I think the woman has some special service for an additional fee, I simply let her know I will come another day and partake.  

Sometimes the shower thing is difficult, but I either come from home (freshly showered) or can stop by my health club for a quick rinse.  That way i never have to leave any valueables where I can't see them.  And, most shopping  malls have bathrooms with "family" rooms, where you can take a pretty good sponge bath in the sink.  That way you don't need to take a shower at the woman's incall.  

In this story, I am pretty sure the pimp thing could have been avoided if the woman hadn't stolen the money.  If the OP hadn't had to argue and threated to get his money back,  he would have been out the door.  The worst that might have happened is he meets the pimp in the hallway, and not likely to have any trouble there.  

So the precautions are simple:

1.  Don't bring money or Credit cards to a meeting.
2.  Don't get out of sight of personal items for any reason.
3.  Don't hang around after doing the deed.  (Most women will want you out anyway((even if you think they are into you.))  Get dressed, and get going before anyone unwanted has a chance to show up.  

I meant to say don't bring any EXTRA money or credit cards to a meeting.  sorry

The first thing to consider is never let your belongings be out of sight.  Take your stuff into the bathroom with if necessary.  I generally undress in the bathroom if using her shower, and take my stuff into the bath if showering after as well and dress in there.  If visiting someone at an appt, I don't undress (or leave coat if anything in pockets) in one room and party in another.  I generally leave all extra monies in the car and only take whats needed with me.  

The second thing is to bail out right away if its obvious the provider is under the influence to a noticable degree.

The lessons will be heeded in the future. Guess I needed to say I will respond to pms, as I have to many requests already.

He will if you PM him.

Very wise. Funny too I do the same, see guys there are reasons for being late, it's one of my tactics to screw up police busts, they want you on time cause they got 5 more coming, I actually was fortunate of missing a bust in Marriott Bloomington, being late, I SAW them hauling another girl through the back doors and by the way the non uniformed officer looked at me, she knew one got away. BUT let me clear this up, I escort that is not illegal. I don't think being slutty is illegal either, wink wink.
I understand it's a bit off topic didn't mean to high jack y'alls thread...
Toodles

plesase pm with the name so I can put her on my shit list.

It's all too easy to get used to things going smoothly, get careless over time, and the next thing you know it's blowing up in your face.  Thanks for being willing to post this as a useful reminder that might save someone from being complacent and being burned.

Please share the name

And "She was obviously tipsy, but I proceeded..."?

If you're looking for some kind of "Victim" status, you probably need to keep looking, sir.  You are also in the wrong in a number of ways.

Amen, many times I can't believe how some ladies gets 8-10s....

Sorry, man, but your take strikes me as simplistic.

I think there's a lot more to this guy's story than he's telling.

When you diddle with someone who's intoxicated, as hee admitted to, you pretty much deserve whatever bad happens to you.  Her being a provider doesn't change that.  If he did this with a civie date, he'd be up on sexual assault charges.  

He's lucky to only be out a little money.

though it's commendable wanting to keep this civilized and private - TER only works if both the good and bad experiences are written up.

He is not looking for anything other than warning us that all providers are not good people. More guys should have the guts to tell the truth instead of rating all their dates 8's,9's and 10's.

Like who, 2late?  You?  If not, what's your point?

Maybe it'd be better if she said

"Continuing to try to engage in sex with someone who is CLEARLY intoxicated and unable to consent is a lot more ILLEGAL than what he was there for."

You think what he did was alright?  

I don't believe for a minute he's telling the whole truth.  If you do, that's fine, but it's 2010 now, not the 70s or 80s and we get to live with the prevailing legal/social climate so going by what you did way-back-when in college doesn't work at all.  

He should have left when he saw she was UTI, period.  If you don't believe me, feel free to check with your lawyer about it and the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony.  

As far as the "unwarranted power to women in family court" comment, it's pretty obvious why you would want to post this from an alias.  Using the same handle you review with to say stuff like this would probably cause you problems getting an apppointment sometime down the road.

The guy makes a post about getting ripped off and some of you guys act like NOW members.
He said she was tipsy, NOT intoxicated.
She stole money from him and she was cognizant and sober enough to confront him and call her pimp.

Now I understand and agree with the OP to NOT post her info on the board, lest the WK's come out blazing for another round against him.

So, Kestrel, you think having sex with a woman who is awake, alert, willing, but a "little tipsy" is grounds for sexual assault charges?  Hmmm, good thing I wasn't prosecuted during the multiple times in college, when I was married, and with my last girlfriend when this happened.  For the record, no one was ever hurt with the exception of my ego a couple of times in college waking up next to someone who I would not have picked up lest I had tipped a few.
Your overreaction to the circumstances here is what gives credibility to overzealous prosecutors, overzealous cops, and gives unwarranted power to women in family court, domestic court, etc.  
Bottom line here is that the girl had a couple drinks or a hit of something mild (he didn't say drunk or high-just a little tipsy) and then stole his money.  It is absurd to be criticizing him for anything other than letting his guard down.

Continuing to try to engage in sex with someone who is CLEARLY intoxicated and unable to consent is pathetic.

"Continuing to try to engage in sex with someone who is CLEARLY intoxicated and unable to consent is pathetic."

Geez Remy, most of the sex I had in my younger years was under the influence.  There are many who would say having sex for money is pathetic!

It's pretty clear very little happened between them.

VIP's can PM him for a more discreet explanation.

My point should be obvious, Kestrel. I don't think a blanket condemnation af having sex under the influence is warranted and I really don't think Remy intended that.  I don't really want to start a pissing match here but I've never heard of anything being "more illegal" than something else.

As far as what he did being right, I don't see that he did anything wrong at all. I would consider him to be the injured party. IMO, if one advertises for providing a service and takes the money for that service, that service should be provided or money refunded, period!

The provider was wrong for stealing the OP's money.
The OP was wrong for staying when the girl was tipsy.

Who is the REAL victim?

The provider.   Do not forget this...she has a pimp.  A pimp is a controlling evil mother-fucker who will beat this girls ass if she does not bring home her keep at the end of every single day.  He will control her with drugs and alcohol and threats of violence and abandonment at the same time telling her how much he loves her, which he is clearly doing.  She is dependent upon him and does not believe she deserves better or can do better without him.   She will tell you in the same breath how much she hates him and how much she loves him.   In many ways, it is the same dynamics in play as any other domestic violence/battery case.  

OP, I am so sorry that this happened and  your money was stolen. I really really am.  Learn from this incident and be cautious in the future .   But, in this case, when there is a pimp involved and likely controlling the behavior and life of the provider in question, I have to stand up for the provider.    I hope you and the other gentlemen understand.  

Hugs, Belinda

I was hoping to hear what happened and to who, and I am glad you posted! A girlfriend of mine had a friend gettin into the business, and being the good-hearted person I am, let her use my phone that night, but told her to explain to any caller that she was not Alissa, but a friend. She was to take a message and relay that to me! I had to track her down that night, when I went to the hotel room all belongings were there, but no girl (she was advertising as Nicole but apparently decided to take my calls instead. She and I have not talked since I got my phone back from her and she mentioned gettin over on someone but she couldn't tell me who...I am willing to fully reimburse you plus some for the horrible thing that she did to you. Needless to say, that was the first and last time I let anyone use my phone! PM me or call or email and I will straighten out this mess!!!
sincere