Catherine was probably the best experience I've ever had in my career as a monger. Almost had a 3 way with her and Samantha Good but it never was able to be arranged. I don't disagree with what you've posted in any way but comparing some of those gals to many/most of the gals today and the experience isn't really accurate. We are blessed with a few who truly care about their craft though but there's a lot of wannabees that just want the big fees without the whole package.
Just wondering if locals are paying the $600 - 1200 plus prices. It seems crazy to me when there are great opportunities with local gals with reasonable prices or for a budget travel expense you can have an sessions for $200 or less with model quality gals in Montreal, Mexico, Toronto, Germany and many parts of Asia. Also great experiences to be had at $400 or less locally. For the price of a couple of the high price sessions you can get an awesome vacation and sleep with a half dozen hotties at the budget rate.
It seems like paying these rates just encourages the price inflation for everybody else.
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It's unfortunate that prices are going up in the local market, but there seems to be enough demand to sustain the current rates.
I highly recommend traveling for sex while the US Dollar is strong. The federal reserve is most-likely going to lower interest rates next year, so enjoy the strong dollar while you can.
I've debated getting out the game due to these prices in the local community. Then I traveled for business in Vegas and California and found prices extremely lower due to more providers available with excellent services. Came back here to MN to find sky high prices for moderate sessions. Worst thing is when you find a provider advertising xxx and they're having a bad day or don't provide specific advertised services at all. But, hey, men are ATMs. MN is a joke for AMPS (💯) and providers who believe they're actually worth x3 the prices. I have so many examples of some who went from $180 to $300 for HE massages, and independents going from $250 to $450 with same services. Leave MN and you will find two providers in one session for those prices.
I've been saying for years that the prices is that some of these chick's charge are absolutely ridiculous. I mean, just think about somebody's chicks. Some are charging 6 to 8 hundred dollars for an hour of fun time.
Think about all the things you could buy for 8 hundred dollars. I mean, I get some dudes might have very high paying jobs but still, why pay that much.
Have not and will not payed the $800 to $1000 per hour.
That being said just saw a review where provider was non welcoming and client finished on a rag. The hour was $250 plus a hotel room he had to rent.
Maybe said monger should have paid more and had a satisfying outcome.
Then again once in a while the Unicorn appears - but not often .
Those rates aren't for me either. I'll bide my time for that unicorn. 😉
Sir....I supplied that client with a Kleenex, not a rag!!! And I even gave him some of my lotion to finish!!! LOL
Was not you I was referring to. Looking at your profile your looks and menu check all the boxes . If listed here would be very near the top of the 100 list with nobody close to your rate .
You may be the closest thing to a Unicorn here in a couple years.
Thanks friend!!! 
wait... are people complaining about a service/experience they don't have first hand knowledge of because... they won't pay the rate? So even though they can't really speak to what is provided at a higher rate in the local market, they complain about it? But then when you read their reviews, they often end in, "overall not the best", "won't repeat", "not my type", "only repeat when in a pinch", etc. so really they're shelling out the same amount of money, if not more, for lackluster services/experiences but still complain about services/experiences they've never participated in because... they won't pay higher rates?
Am I interpreting this correctly?
This is not a complaint so much as it stating the insanity of the situation. Basically it is like paying a grand for a bottle of vintage wine. Even if I won Poweball I wouldn’t pay it. There is always someone that needs to grossly overpay to feel like a big shot, but it will not be me. I have seen amazing women and have never paid over $400. Many have been hotter than the $800-1000 gals. With women paying a lot usually doesn’t improve the outcome once you are over a typical $200 - 400 dollar threshold and you have chemistry with the gal. Assuming the gal has a good track record.
Provider rates have increased much faster than the disposable income that most clients have for P4P. Obviously, providers are the ones who set their rates but when guys who used to be able to afford providers of a certain level of quality no longer can, that is very frustrating. They are going to complain about it and this is one of the few places they can. It's not the sort of thing one can gripe about to one's family, friends, or co-workers except under unusual circumstances. Nor is it really a matter of why providers have increased their rates so much. Regardless of the why, it is still simply frustrating to be priced out from seeing ladies one would like to see, particularly if it is someone the client has seen before and wants to see again.
I think the obvious answer to all this is play within your budget. Where you and I will disagree is this notion of price inflation. Before I actively started advertising in 2020, I spoke to several local providers and visited so many websites to get an idea of where to start with rates. The overwhelming majority of providers were somewhere between $350 - $500 for the first hour and had been at those rates since roughly, 2016. I don't know about you but I think it's fairly reasonable to conclude that after 3 years, prices would go up, let alone after 7 years. Hell, my rates have stayed stagnant for Minneapolis since January 2022; most providers have.
Going outside is expensive, staying inside is expensive, the cost of everything is on the up and up. We all are feeling the impact of this garbage economy and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Still - let's not be ignorant - we all know that in any business, as operating costs go up, businesses may increase rates to maintain (not necessarily increase BUT maintain) profitability. And yes, businesses risk losing clients to other providers who are able to provide a similar service at a lower price point. But therein lies the beauty of this industry... the client pays for what they want: is it about the service, the experience or both?
Instead of directing your frustration at providers who are just trying to make a living, maybe redirect it towards economic policies that are putting ALL businesses in this position.
Missing the old agencies. XO, City Girls and others. Fantastic gals, great service and a reasonable price.
Because everything in life usually gets upgraded and better. In this case services are the same or WORST for more. Why the hell wouldn't one complain?
There are some excellent providers out there for $300 who are well worth repeating multiple times. If you don't like the rates, don't pay, we are in a democracy. Rates though are not always reflective of the Service given has I've found out to my cost!
On the bright side, you can still get a pretty good massage from a 7 or 8 in looks and hand job for $200 and the provider does all the work. All you gotta do is lay there--maybe role over for the happy ending. Life is good.
Its
30% putting up with your body shaming insults
10% laundry
5% no show fund
20% business risk for the business impact of your sucky reviews.
and 15% service and 20% time.
That means you are only being paying $210 for a one hour appt.
PS: Don't write me, I do not have VIP
Rate of inflation for the past two years is roughly 12%. So if someone was charging $350 two years ago, they could justify claiming about an extra $40 today. So $390, or to be nice, round up to $400. Anything beyond that is not due to inflation.
Somewhat unrelated, but still, I was curious and found the long term average rate of inflation is about 3%. At 3% the value of money is cut in half every 24 years. If you were making $100,000 24 years ago, it would only be worth $50,000 today.
… as you did 24 years ago, I’d say it’s time to find a new profession—or at least a new job.
A client in the thread said, "I consider myself one of the very lucky ones here. In the early 90’s Catherine S. was availability for $300. The turn of the century Melissa was available for $300."
$300 in 2002 = $514.31 in 2024 all due to inflation
One of the early 90s/2000s TC favorites and I have evolved from acquaintances to friends. Even she couldn't keep her jaw from hitting the floor when she heard that in the span of two decades, while the price of everything else bloated up like a balloon on steroids, the chaps are still playing hardball & digging in their heels over the price tag on the lovely women in the TC area who offer the extra sprinkles they seemingly aren't getting elsewhere on their donut of life!
First of all, $300 was a big investment in the early 90's but Catherine was worth every damn cent of it. Her menu options and how she brought her A game to the dance was top shelf all the way. Her incall was usually a high end suite, her hygiene was immaculate and her sex drive was off the charts.
Inflation is still there and as far as I see, prices may have reached a high point and were seeing some of those soften which would indicate to me that reality will soon come to bear for many. Of course, there will be some outliers that will maintain a high end appeal but there's clearly a difference between an independent that is investing in marketing and building/maintaining her brand vs. the local brothel running clients through turnstiles like a subway station. $400-$600 for a great GFE romp on clean sheets or waiting for the massage hooker to vape a little more while watching Maury Povich before she returns to her room with the mattress on the floor?
A solid hour of fun starting as you walk thru the door vs waiting alone for 10 minutes, blow a nut and she tosses you a warm wet towel that might have a couple sessions splooge in it and your on your way to your car after 39 minutes?
The rush to the top of the rate structure didn't start 50-some days ago on New Years Day, it was rising high at least two years ago when the helicopter money was still falling and circulating through the economy.
I consider myself one of the very lucky ones here. In the early 90’s Catherine S. was availability for $300. The turn of the century Melissa was available for $300. In the early teens Hailey was available for $300. I’m no knight in shining armor, but when I walk thru the door, that’s what each and every woman makes me feel like. They deserve a lot more than what I’ve got. We all are just lucky to have the most wonderful, erotic women in our city. I have no problem dishing out these prices. And if your experiences aren’t top quality try doing more homework beforehand. Think about what you made in 1990. Yeh, your wage probably has more than tripled. Like I said at the beginning, I consider myself one of the very lucky ones...thank you Ladies
Catherine was probably the best experience I've ever had in my career as a monger. Almost had a 3 way with her and Samantha Good but it never was able to be arranged. I don't disagree with what you've posted in any way but comparing some of those gals to many/most of the gals today and the experience isn't really accurate. We are blessed with a few who truly care about their craft though but there's a lot of wannabees that just want the big fees without the whole package.
For anyone wondering, SG is doing well. I was fortunate enough to see her last year and still talk to her. ♡
Thanks for the update on SG. I had some of my best experiences with her. Good to hear that she is doing well.