I was really impressed at how sympathetic the ladies were to the gent a few threads down who was in a bad marriage.  

I fortunately haven't had to live through that. The problem that's come up in sessions has been that I tend to be guarded around women (having grown up around some especially nasty ones).  It makes it hard for me to loosen up enough to enjoy it.

The other issue is that I may be hard to screen. There are a couple of ladies who might vouch for me as safe and honest, but I'm not sure how reference-friendly they are. I quit my job a while ago. Money isn't an immediate problem for me.

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I don't know if men understand but when we gals screen we don't get into
Details of the visit. Screening is to make sure your dealing with a safe person, not  
A government agency & not someone who never plans on visiting to begin with.
Screening is nothing like reading a providers reviews. At least not in my experience,
There are no " juicy details" that get discussed.  
           I'm posting this because it can get SO frustrating when a guy doesn't want to  
Mention a provider he has seen or worse doesn't want screening at all! It is so very important  
To know a little about someone you chose to visit with..
That being said if your a "newbie" please read & learn all you can about this venture, information  
Is power & we all need to be in charge of our own.
Have a nice night,
~M

Similar marriage situation as below.  
Not interested in P411 membership.
Self-Employed, multiple business owner.
Do not like writing reviews because it feels wrong and a violation of privacy.
Only interested in a few ladies and not interested in seeing any minor league-rs just to show my bona fides to the few of interest. Ok, there is only one I really want to see and it is not who you think because I am sure I would not survive her.

Let me know if you lovely ladies have a plan for guys like us

No idea really. Maybe just give as much personal information as you can and give a personal reference?

 I had to give out personal references when I adopted a cat, and while the situation with those who are self-employed is a little different, you could always just pretend the guy is adopting a cat and we need to know if he is a creep or not...

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So what you are saying...we need references for any kind of pussy..?

I was in a similar situation a while back. Not working because of an injury and no recent "dates".

When I re-entered the hobby, I found it very difficult to get references from providers I had seen in the past on multiple occasions. I had been away for about 4 years. I was quite irritated that I was being asked to jump through some hoops, but I did, and got re-established. I also am selective as to who I see, but not as fussy as you seem to be.

You have some interesting (strange?) feelings here. Don't want P411? Fine, but that will make it harder to get verified.

Do not like writing reviews because it FEELS wrong and invasion of privacy? Fine again, I do see you have one review and claim that you visit AMP's. However, this is a review site, so you are going against the grain again.

Finally you say there are only a few providers, (or one?) you are interested in seeing, I am assuming they are going to be diligent at screening, you're bucking the system again.

Whatever your feelings, the gals need some kind of indication that you are not LE or some kind of nut case.  

You might have to think outside the box here to gain some trust. Perhaps contact one of your desired ladies and propose a dinner date, at her full rate, with no expectations of extras. She might go for that, meet you, and decide you are OK.

You come across as a control freak with all your rules, sometimes you have to bend them in order to get what you want in the end. If you are a multiple business owner, you must realize that situations are give and take. Would you put one of your businesses at risk by dealing with someone who could hurt you, without first checking them out?

Good luck! -- Modified on 9/28/2013 9:16:42 PM

yes. just ask, "do you think he can take care of a kitty?" and if they respond in the affirmative, all system's are go!

Thanks for the feedback. I understand if a provider does not want to stray from her methods. I am not asking for a free pass. I am not that important. I was more or less wondering if there were satisfactory alternatives to the standard methods

That's why I suggested a dinner meeting. I have talked (whined?LOL) at length with the providers about my trouble getting going again, and the smart ones are careful.  

I was trying to help. If you are truly only interested in one provider, email her with your "problem/concern" and let her decide what will satisfy her requirements. Be prepared for her wanting two or three provider references.

You can only find ONE you like? PM me, I have to know who she is

You need to know that:

A: I'm not LE.

B: I'm not a serial killer. (You're good there. I prefer to get them all at once. My time is gold.)

C: That I pay.

Ways of addrssing that:

1: I could give you a description of some local incalls that would include details not in any of the reviews. That would have to be run by another guy that you do trust.

2: My name is pretty identifying. Even partial information would let you verify that I'm not in any felon databases.

I quit four years ago and haven't bothered to look. I may start a business if I get bored enough or start feeling poor, but I'm not sure when that will be.

Mindy, I've never refused to cooperate with screening. The ladies were clear about what they expected in a first email. I couldn't provide it, so I didn't email them. Simple.

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IMHO, screening is ALL about whatever the provider needs to feel comfortable.  There is no "entitlement" for any hobbyist to be able to see the provider of their choice--the choice is with the provider.

That is private and privileged information.  I would hope people would not be careless and thoughtless to share that info.    A lady might ask for a whole list of items in her screening but I would think if you explain what info you feel comfortable sharing, it might just be enough.

was thinking more like "we met in a downstairs room with a window facing East, and the bed..."

Doesn't matter now anyway.

... I don't see the issue with describing the *interior* of a provider's incall.  That is commonly done in reviews, sometimes in considerable detail.  
 
But I don't see where giving details on an incall would be necessary or useful for screening anyway.  It wouldn't help with the most important part of screening, i.e., is the guy safe and a good bet as a client.  And that kind of information could be obtained second-hand, so it's not reliable.