I don't agree that the simple passing of time is enough to remove your white list reference. As I said before, the lady seeking the reference can make up her own mind whether too much time has passed for it to still be valid.

I agree alot can change in 6 months but basic human decency and integrity rarely does. Admit it Belinda, this girl is simply trying to drum up business. As another poster pointed out, would you want your reviews removed after 6 months?

Just wondering how others feel about this. A provider I saw about 6 months ago sent me a PM saying she wants to delete my white list and P411 ok because its been awhile since I saw her. First, I dont have an issue because the referral is her choice anyway. I think the reasoning might be that a referral might be suspect if its not fairly recent. However it might also be a ploy to resurrect some patronage, although in her case she hardly needs to do that. So I guess the question might be - how much time can pass before its reasonable for a provider to undo the whitelist?

I think you've got it figured out, she's pressuring you to see her again. How do you know for sure how her business is doing?

Personally, unless I misunderstand the Whitelist, it's not proper to remove her referral because of time passing. Any provider looking at your referrals can make up her own mind as to whether it's too old or not!

I guess my confusion is to how the White List is used if it can be withdrawn after time goes by....i thought it was a way for the provider to let the gentlemen know that they were relatively pleased with the encounter between the two. I have never asked and obviously do not have many but it just seemed pretty cool to me to have a gorgeous provider acknowledge that they had a good time!! If the white list can go away after time then does that mean that the excitement of a fresh review also fades after time? And we should pull the review also?
I do not feel that i am bound to a provider that white lists me if they do....BUT as i think about it now it should trigger my brain to realize that the visit between the ones in question were stellar !!!!!!  and a return is probably well worth it to plan.......so H and A hold on to your socks! I shall see you soon!

This is a business & like any other business it always has it's highs & lows. Even the most popular providers see their dark moments when the phone isn't ringing enough. It's the holiday season as well. Everyone can use a little more income at this time. This sounds more like a manipulation to get you to come see her & fatten her wallet. I personally would tell her to go head & pull the Whitelist. The P411 Referral could be a different story. It is not easy to pull an Ok w/o a good reason. I don't believe because you haven't seen her recently is one of those "good" reasons. Try emailing P411 Administration with your question.

I think the TER whitelist is simply the opposite of a blacklist. Just tells other providers ur ok to see, meaning u behaved yourself, had good hygiene, respected her rules, and paid as expected without exhibiting any LE, pimping, or other suspicious behavior.

I also believe it is the providers right (and responsibility) to remove a whitelist as she sees fit.  Many providers do not give references unless they have seen you within the last 6 months.  In essence, a whitelist is her reference.   So, it would, in my opinion, be reasonable to assume she would want to remove her reference if she has not seen you in over 6 months.   Let's face it, alot can change over 6 months time.    

I think most providers are smart enough to read when the Whitelist approval was given and to make their own judgement as to how much weight to give said listing based on when it was submitted.

Removal of a Whitelist because a client has not seen a provider in X amount of time is not a valid reason and only serves as a ploy to tie a client to a provider.

Rude of her! I think so many providers are just tooooo hard on the guys in this hobby. Does she REALLY think he's not safe anymore??
I agree with 2late and the other guys on this.

I would tell her to remove them and go shove it.

In either case, removing such a referral because you have not seen her in X amount of months is not a valid reason. You have her reason on record now through her PM; should she remove them regardless of your desires, my guess is you can easily contact TER or P411 and have them restored through an appeal.

Ask yourself how important are her referrals to you and if you can get by without them? She can easily cause behind the scenes drama if she has too much of your personal info and you contest too much.

As you are already P411 verified, my guess is you are doing just fine.

I agree white-list should not be able to be pulled.  Let whoever is using the list determine
if they are comfortable or not with date of the references.

I like to give the girl the benefit of the doubt.  I, myself, would never remove a whitelist just because of the passing of time. And,  I do not think it is fair to assume that this lady is removing or threatening to remove a whitelist because of money and an attempt to lure a gent back.  Surely, a smart lady would see that this lame attempt would surely backfire.  Look,  we all have different comfort levels, perhaps hers is to not have her name associated with a whitelist that is, in her opinion, outdated.    

Basically, I am not sure what to think about it.  I guess only she will know the truth of the matter unless she is confronted.  If the OP does press the issue with her, I would really like to hear her reasoning.

Like I said, I like to give the benefit of the doubt.  Innocent til proven guilty kind of thing, you know?

Hugs, Belinda

I agree with Oleoneeye.  It has to do with comfort of seeing you.  It does not mean that the provider had a good time with you.  Sorry, Hornbody, to burst your bubble.  It just means that that the provider felt safe with you, you didn't have sores on your penis, you paid without a hassle, and you didn't stalk her afterwards.

That being said, it should not be removed.  The date sticks with you and is there for anyone to see.  She is just trying to drum up business.  It would have been much more classy for her to have simply contacted him (in a safe way, if she knows how it is safe to contact him), and ask if he would consider seeing her again.  Perhaps she could offer a discount or something to entice him back.  How many entities can you think of who try to drum up business by punishing their past customers?

"Surely, a smart lady would see that this lame attempt would surely backfire."
Maybe she's not that smart? :P



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To remove it just because of the passage of time does not make sense to me; the date the whitelist was made is visible.  However, suppose she has a bad experience with the client sometime later?  She should be able to remove it under situations like that.

I would never!!  If that is the case, 60% of my reviews would be gone!!  Some fellas that posted my reviews, I don't see twice in a year!   Some gentlemen prefer variety! I respect that! I too like variety!  I give ok's to P411 memebers that I may have seen one time!  Karma folks!  Live and let livE!

And I can understand why a provider would question a referral without a review being submitted. But unsure why a fellow hobbyist would question it. Perhaps some of the men that I recommend see you on your last tour questioned it. A review was not submitted per your request and I sincerely apologize for any inconvenience you may have had regarding the legitimacy of that referral.

Merry Xmas and enjoy your visit to MN !!