the proper response is NOT "Do you want my Social Security number, too?"

Guess what... that REALLY pissed me off today.

Just remember all the nice ones that actually know how to respect this hobby and appreciate our need for safety.

They make it worth it!!!  This kitty can't play if she isn't comfy!! Plain and simple!

xoxoxo
Hope your day gets WAAAY better!!

I guess that guys really didn't want to see you. What a moron. LOL

1.  I can't remember where, but I saw a hot pic of you recently, and I was one of the 'likes'
and
2.  I have a TON of amazing, wonderful clients who are scratching their heads at how someone could say this to me (or anyone for that matter).  I am not at all inviting rude karma, so to get it is really frustrating.

And I really like to give my energy and attention to those who really do want to see me!

Is pissing you off good or bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ti7gUuNNpM

you do invite the karma.  it is interesting to how many times you invite the same thing and you refuse to see your part of it.  it is not karma actually it is psychological reciprocity.  it is a law of human nature and interpersonal interaction that in your case assures that you will experence the same thing again and again until you recognize that it is you that is causing it.  You will know I am rite if you read this and you blame me.  My message is not intended to be unkind, if you address the problem it will go away.

How do you know that I invite the karma?  Do you know me?  

I require references.  Everyone knows that with any level of observatory power.  So, to respond so rudely by my requesting them is not an invitation for that karma by me.  

If I have done something else that invites that karma, it is not anything you would know about based on information provided here.  

The psychological reciprocity was me responding to his rudeness by not seeing him.  It rarely happens that I am treated badly for references.  Statistically, this is not an issue with me, by far.  

Why would I blame you?  Blame you for what?  Are you the guy that responded rudely?  

Your saying your message was not intended to be unkind does not erase the fact that it is.  However, this IS a discussion board, and you are discussing, so I don't think it inappropriate.

Trinity Lake

... know that the only kind of karma she brings around is really GOOD karma.     Yessireebob, cannot get enough of that Trin-karma!

...but only you know the tone of his words, Trinity. Joking with a responsible Provider about not providing references is like joking with TSA about having a bomb in your underpants; it'll only blow up in your face!

Oh, and tell Dr. Phil farther down in this thread to go and Phuck Oph!!  

And your evidence for making this statement is what exactly?

cooo-cooo!  It doesn't happen to her regularly did you read the OP? So it sounds like there is no experiencing the same thing again and again. Rite doc?  it is known as the law of attraction. You are getting negativity because you invite it into your life. You are what you think.

You're in a people business Babe. Some people are great, some are assholes. No great revelations here. Keep smiling and do what you do. Getting pissed off is a waste of your time and energy. Focus on your happiness and all the joy you bring the rest of us.

because MAYBE he'll read people's reactions and learn a lesson and not do it again.  You understand people needing to learn lessons, eh Boss.

As it is, his emails ring as being sarcastic, then making fun of me.  When I told him he should find someone else, he asked for recommendations.  I responded that he was rude, and I'd never recommend anyone.  He responded, "Lol. I'm sorry."

The 'Lol' says it all...

I'm over it; I just can't seem to stop RESPONDING to stuff on TER!  Need a BREAK (8-P

ooxx,
Trin

A hobbyist is expecting to be asked for references. You obviously asked for more then just references and he wasn't comfortable giving you his life history.

He made a good call by making that statement knowing that it would end the interrogation.

'Sure, give me your SS#, too."

There are then three possibilities.

(1) He sends you reference info: Verify him, or ignore him. Your choice.

(2) He squawks: Respond 'Seems the printed word is an inadequate vehicle for sarcasm.'

(3) He gives you his SS#: Umm, I got nuthin'.

But sweetie, telling a troll he is rude is like laying out a four course dinner. And a guy who would rather waste your time with smartass comments than arrange a date is, by definition, a troll. If you feed 'em, they keep comin' back.

when they are so rude.
the chances we take, and for our safety.
i am married i am not giving you all my info
or
i am safe you can trust me, you dont need to verify me.....
the excuses and rude crap kills me.....
then there are a few that are always willing to reassure my safety and have no
problem sharing their info, so i can verify. thanks to them, not making my job hard.

He emailed me this morning:
Can you come over this morning and give me a massage? I'm sore


So, yeah.  A troll.  I'm not responding :P

This is the copy of my own email response to his initial inquiry:
"Yes, if you've been cleared through references.  I need two references from well-reviewed providers.  Please just include links to their TER pages.

Thanks,
Trinity"


Assumptions...  Really, people?

You should ask for as much or as little as what makes you comfortable.  I do not believe your screening methods were the reason for your initial post.    I believe you were ultimately just saying "rudeness will get you nowhere".

You have every right to screen to the degree that makes You feel safe.
If they don't like it then they can move on.

I had the same thing happen the other day
( probably the same person for all I know
& all I have to say is. ;
I DON'T ASK for personal info, so it's perfectly fair to ask for at least 2 provider references & if someone says that's too much then they need to stick with street level providers that don't screen, not come back to me or another lady with some smarmy comment.
Keep that snarky mess to yourself. I'm too blessed.
Xoxo V.

I'm late to the conversation, but what's new. Sarcasm is a passive-aggressive way to express anger. You're instincts were right on. Trinity has a beautiful, gentle and sensitive spirit (with a refreshing dash of wild child). Trust your gut when it comes to angry men. Glad you took care of yourself.

Its YOUR choice in who you see. If they don't feel comfortable with your screening, that's their problem.
Not responding was a good choice.

Some men just don't get it.
Yesterday somebody talked with me for 1 1/2 hours (85 minutes of it was a waste of time).. lol  I had to explain a lot to somebody who SUPPOSEDLY has several references but of course, he couldn't remember their name, email, phone number, website or anything about them.  I tried to end our conversation because he really had no references but he kept trying.  I explained about place of employment or verification sites and things like that but he was just laughing about it.  He said nobody is going to know his real name or his place of employment.  He kept asking me why I wouldn't go meet him for a few minutes just to meet face to face.  The last time he asked, I said something like.. I'm sorry but I don't play that game so please stop asking.  Then he said... you won't meet me even if I buy you a McDonald hamburger.. LMAO The End

He offered you a McDonalds hamburger...what more did you want, a hot apple pie?

for an hour and a half to a person like this?!?!

That's what I was wondering.  
Ain't nobody got time for that!