never haggle a ladies rates and NEVER discuss sex and money at the same time.   Two ways to almost guarantee the lady will either:

1.  delete your emails and not answer
2. cancel a date that's already been made
3. NCNS

I become fearful of LE when someone starts asking about the menu and it pisses me off when they try to negotiate my rates.  I already have reasonable rates and don't wish to go lower.    I will make an offer to you if I want to offer you a special package or it will be in my ad.  

To find out the rates and the menu, either look at the ads, get VIP and look at the reviews, or check her website.

The only exception IMO is when there is no reviews, the rates aren't in her ads, and she doesn't have a website.   But, even then, tread lightly and be as discreet as possible when asking.

My suggestion is that you get VIP access and do your homework as to what you want before contacting. And it is NEVER appropriate to negotiate. Please treat these ladies with the respect they deserve.

....I echo all the points made above: Don't haggle.  Don't get specific on any menu on the phone or in e-mails.  Get VIP.

I'd only add that you might have to think in the long term, rather than the short term.  That is, if you don't have VIP, you won't be able to know a lady's menu before seeing her for the first time.  So, at that first session, don't push it.  Let her take the lead, and you follow.  If trust is built, then maybe she'll be open to more the next time.  If you can get VIP before a first meeting (either by purchasing it or by writing a second review on someone you see), then the world of "juicy details" is thrown open to you.  But, as always, YMMV.  You need to establish connections and trust, and that's very hard to do in only one session, and certainly not BEFORE that first session.

Don't give up...but don't get too pushy and don't expect too much in your first toe-in-the-water sessions.  I can tell you from personal experience that it just gets better the longer you're at it.

Good luck!

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Thanks for the great advice everyone.  Being new to this I want to make sure I’m not “stepping in it” so to speak.  Thanks again!

Good way to get hung up on.  If she has reviews, they will usually tell you what you need.  If not then more often than not you can get an idea by her rate; generally speaking the higher the rate, the more open the menu.  But this is not always true; this is where the TOFTT concept comes in.

As far as negotiation goes, while I have heard that some ladies are OK with it, most dislike it plus even if you do get a discount, you may not get her best performance either.   Go with her posted rate and only ask what it is if you can't find out any other way.  Even then be discreet and low key.  Once you have seen her and if you are interested in an appointment length for which she has no listed rate then you may be able to negotiate something.  But trying to lowball her is likely to blow up in your face; even if she accepts it again she may not have her A game.

If you use Backpage to find a "date", you may need to ask for rates as many ads do not include them. Also, since BP no longer allows "GFE" to be used in ads, I have found it useful to at least ask if GFE is available or if they consider themselves to be GFE. If a provider has a problem answering that question, you need to decide if you want to take a chance with them.

When it comes to negotiating, make up your own mind. Personally I don't, but to me it's not a case of being inappropriate, it's whether I believe the results would be to my liking or not. Also, when you see the same girl with ads in different locations with different rates on each, or weekly or even daily ads where the rates change, how can anyone say that it's always inappropriate to negotiate or at least confirm rates. If you do negotiate/receive a lower rate, you may want to ask if the service will be the same, as Vorlon already warned about.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is not a book of etiquette for being a John (that I'm aware of). Listen to advice then make up your own mind as each situation may be different.