Kylie might have gone by Bella at some point. (Pretty sure)

Alison on Eros with the email [email protected] is completely different from Alison of Des Moines.

I am not sure who Allison Quarters is but I think she may be the same Alison in the Eros ad under angelshotgirls but no guarantees.

AngelsHotGirls is not really an agency but rather a booking service. There is a difference.

Many times truly independent providers will hire an assistant aka "booker" to better manage the provider part of their life. These "bookers" can be responsible for many things including placing ads, taking appointment requests, scheduling appointments, screening and safety backup depending on what the provider needs.

The period that an independent provider uses a "booker" varies depending on how busy the provider is or other aspects of a provider's personal life. Many times this is an/off relationship mostly based on need.

It is not uncommon for independent out of town touring providers to use a booking service or agency to assist them with their scheduling needs while in town.

Both Kylie and Alison on Eros are independent providers who use AngelsHotGirls the booking service. They may cross recommend each other but that is not unusual.

I don't think Casey ever used AngelsHotGirls as a booking service and I doubt AHG has anything to do with Casey. In essence the client email addresses of AHG and Casey are not getting pooled together and sent out at random.

Casey's email didn't come from an agency but rather from a group of provider friends who either share the same email address or pooled the email addresses from their contact lists together in hopes of creating a bigger customer pool. At least that was the most reasonable explanation we had other than a virus or someone hacking into computers.

If you are that worried, I would simply go out and get a new go phone, sign up for a new hobby number and change your hobby email address at the same time. Shut the old one down.

I'm confused. Are these two providers one and the same? Is this "Alison" of Des Moines? or "Allison" Quarters? One is posting with the agency mentioned below AHG (no web site, just their email address) and it seems that everyone has vetted the agency as reputable but what about the girls? Are they still booking though the agency or are they now independent or perhaps working on the side?

Can't find anything on the web regarding Allison Quarters other than a cache of a CV ad from last spring and old BP ads where the links are no longer active. The two women look nothing alike. I had spoken with Alison/Allison (though I did not book, she had no reviews) when I was visiting the cities last spring and I know I was not speaking with an agency. Kylie and Bella shared the same photo and are definitely the same girl (though I've not seen her, perhaps someone else can confirm).

Were any of them, Kylie (Bella) or Alison (Allison), associated with that same agency? I booked with Casey (identified in the other post) last year and I know for a fact that I didn't book through that agency. I hope they're not sharing the same email pool or that the emails are/have been perused and that they (the agency or the girls) are now sending unsolicited emails to all of us even though we have not seen all of them.

All I'm asking is that before you come on the board and imply certain board occurrences are "strange" or a conspiracy, please have some facts to back it up, because whether or not you feel coincidences occur is irrelevant. Isolated incidents can happen at the same time without there being a connection. And if you know something we don’t know, say it! Instead of beating around the bush, put it out there so the people who are knowledgeable can backchannel the correct information to you. It’s that simple.

Other than the Cottage Grove bust and the email issue, what are these "strange occurrences" you mention? If they're a hunch in your world of paranoia, then please stop spreading unnecessary fear and possibly hurting certain ladies businesses based off your bullshit premonition. Or be clear what you are implying, because it could be one thing but it’s coming off as another, which ends up unfairly impacting specific providers' businesses, which is NOT ok.

Or like last year, you can go hide for several months and resurface when you realize there was an MFP bust and nothing more, because there really are coincidences in life and sometimes people make a mountain out of a molehill.

And for those who care, I’m a lurker with an alias handle just like everyone else’s handle. We are all aliases whether you like it or not.

OK well here is my take. I think the "booker", as you put it, has lost control of their address pool. I don't think anyone's email address has been harvested by a virus meant to collect hobbiest addresses, the size of the target pool isn't of enough significance to warrant the effort to engineer the virus.

How the booker lost control of the pool really is not important to me. What is important is the fact that if this did occur they are not fessing up to it like a bank or insurance company must when it's security has been compromised. You would think if this is what had happened they would have been pro-active in advising any of the clients of such events so that they could take appropriate measures.

Next, I'm seeing too many alias postings on the matter by folks who have no skin in the game. Except for vorlon, viper2, bluenorth, happy39guy and myself everyone else on the client side of this discussion is an alias. So I research Casey's reviews and she has only two, bluenorth reviewed Casey as did XXXpro both back in 08.

I haven't seen Casey's ads in quite a while, not like back in 2008 when I saw her and she advertised consistently. Now again I was out of the cities for more than a year, but you mean to tell me that Casey, (with two reviews mind you), emailed vorlon who is consistently one of our top posters on this board and he has never seen her? No I don't think so. I think he was targeted for business. Anyone else get an email that want's to speak up? (see the posting earlier this week by vorlon)

So here is my take, it's our email addresses and phone numbers from a "reference" pool that has likely been compromised, not a blind email list. Whomever is sending the emails (and making phone calls) is cross referencing the information and then deciding to pick and choose whom they contact, perhaps from form submissions, I think this is not good.

Which brings me to AHG and the Karin/Bella2sexy/Kylie and Alison of DesMoines/Alison Quarters/Alison EROS. Who was the booker on the phone line rattling off acronyms in the post above? Why hasn't AHG commented on this?

Yes, I've looked at the Karin/Bella2sexy/Kylie links and yes it's the same girl back several years. The Karin referenced more recently (and recently reviewed by happpy39guy) is not the same girl but apparently the AHG allowed the girl to reuse the name instead of retiring it. As for Alison of DesMoines she doesn't show here face so no luck there but she also doesn't use AHG but a booking form instead. As for Allison on EROS and (who uses AHG) and Allison Quarters yes they may in fact be one and the same though history on the board indicates that no one has ever seen her and she has no reviews. I had seen a Cityvibe link on a google search and they don't seem to be the same person, different age, height, etc.

My point is this, it's been a week of "strange occurrences" on this board and yeah I'm a little bit concerned. So lets drop the aliases and get down to figuring out if someone is sharing information that they shouldn't be sharing, and at the same time let's stop with the "aw it's nothing" attitudes. I'd be happy to take this off line as PM's if the moderator feels that it's warranted. But for the record, I don't believe in coincidences gentlemen.

Your statement, “…many times truly independent providers will hire an assistant aka "booker”.  

Well I am truly an independent companion and I don’t have an “assistant” or “booker.”  And I know many other independent ladies who don’t, either.  

And staying on this week’s relative topics:  I read a comment somewhere along the way where a hobbyist (?) commented on how LE would never use EROS because it is too expensive.  Why would a hobbyist even have that information?  I mean, he's not the one advertising.  What do you think about that?

This Week's Strange and Crazy Happenings -  Coincidence?    A set-up?   What do you think?

She is a very nice young woman who is an excellent provider.  Unless I have missed something, the only connection between her and this other stuff is the name Alison, so I think she should not be a part of this discussion.

For what it is worth, I have not received any more unusual emails or had anything else odd happen.

Guys, some paranoia can be a useful thing but let's not get carried away here.  Coincidences do happen and just because things happen at about the same time doesn't mean they are connected.

Vorlon, agreed no issues there apologies for the inference. Again, I received just one PM attempting to help me clarify and or temper my concerns. To date has anyone heard from AHG or any of their gals since the issues raised in aapl12's posting? A PM is fine if concerned parties care to confide, if not it's understood. Please don't label my concerns as "paranoia" and don't for a minute believe that the depth of authorities interest in our "hobby" stops at our activities. Their interest is in the money that is expended, with whom and by whom. It always has been, and it always will be. Our activities are merely a gateway or portal to much bigger and generally more significant objectives. As long as postings regarding public postings of arrested clients garner more views on these boards than postings regarding thoughtful safeguarding of the identities of participants in the hobby, we should all be alert and wise in our behaviors.