Can't go wrong with that list- nice.
That should make the other ladies you've seen and reviewed feel good about themselves.
Wow. As if it isn't enough to have to deal with comparisons regarding looks and service, now we have to be scrutinized about how pretty and tight our pussies are?
Sorry to offend you. Everyone wants to know who the best are and sharing opinions is the only way. If hobbyist contribute and this a HOBBYIST BOARD, then their should be lots of representation. I suspect that you are one of the offended providers- yes? Don't reviews also make some providers feel bad about themselves while others get praise- that is the nature of this board and the reviews.
It's a board for both hobbyists and providers last time I looked.
DIdn't you ask providers awhile back which hobbyist was best at DATY?
Being reviewed or commenting on service is one thing.
Being reviewed or commenting on looks another, since that is very subjective.
But being reviewed on a woman's vagina? PLEASE. That is just ludicrous. Like that is anything a woman can help? If she is clean and practices good hygiene, how else can she influence what others think is "pretty" or "tight"? Maybe the latter is directly related to the size of your own genitalia? Not to mention, as Drumsticks said, making such a list excludes others you haven't tried or don't know, not to mention it makes them appear "not so good as the others on your list.
This board is not for providers, it is for hobbyists!
and without providers what would hobbyists have to write about?
It's about providers, but it's for Hobbyists.
I believe it's for both. There is a Providers Only board and there is a Reviewers (Hobbyist) Only board for each to use for their discretion.
Parliamentarian, can we get a ruling on this, please?
Back channels are those avenues not generally visible to the general public like PM, email and Reviewers Only boards. This is not a back channel. It's open to the public.
'Relax, it's just sex.'
finally someone with a brain and some sense of logic and propriety.
A few years ago, seeing a provider post here was unusual and anything beyond an ad was practically unheard of. Guys would complain that they never heard from the ladies.
It's much more interesting and useful when we have ladies being a part of the conversation.
And we have, at times, taken a lot of flak for it.
Not that there isn't room for improvement but I can remember lots of times in past years when this board was a really nasty place or was deader than a doornail.
I have no nostalgia for those times and never want to see them return.
No one can objectively evaluate these 'best of' attributes unless he has sampled EVERY provider in Minnesota under pretty much identical conditions. Otherwise, it's simply subjective.
By listing those providers who you think are so good, by definition, everyone else on your review list is 'not so good'.
"Whomever once saieth there 'tis naught such as a dumb question...is really dumb!" Plato
Opinions vary and give all of us better information. How many times have you seen a provider that had hygiene issues, or was as loose as a goose. Anyone could have those issues, even the most attractive providers. A tight or tasty or prettiest pussy could be an ugly provider, so to speak, or overweight. I've been burned even though I always see reviewed providers with a track record (except a few instances). I'm just looking for opinions based on who a hobbyist has seen. I've seen over 70 providers over the past three years, so my opinion is at least based on some volume. There are many I haven't seen and when we donate $$$, I want to know the real deal.
You've been "burned" because you weren't let it on the fact that a provider, however beautiful and whatever outstanding service she gave, had a pussy you personally thought was "loose as a goose"? Are you serious? Wouldn't you be contributing more if you listed the ones who were personally unappealing to you in all of your vast experience? Wouldn't it be more helpful to those unfortunate women to know so they could stop kidding themselves?
If expressing personal opinion is subjective then what purpose does it serve to share it? Especially if it is not going to influence whether or not you would see a provider?
The unfortunate fact is, in a hobby that tends to be more underground, opinion does influence and some people do pay attention to what others have to say. Unfortunately, there are some who do not realize that the number of hobbyists expressing their "opinion" on a public board do not constitute the vast majority of those who actually participate. It can and does affect a woman's rep and business. If a provider is reliable, attractive and receives consistent scores regarding her appearance and service, what does how "pretty" her pussy is have to do with anything? As long as it is as anatomically normal as it can be, clean, and in working order, scrutinizing how "pretty" or "tight" is going to make a difference as to whether or not the provider measures up compared to her reviews? Like your opinion and wiener are the measuring tape for everyone? Someone had better get on it then and make sure it is added to the review criteria. Sheesh.
But by all means, scrutinize away. It helps many of us decide who to pass on. You may have to miss out on an amazing lady and experience who many might feel has a very pretty and tight pussy!
Of course pussies can be beautiful. Why would men view magazines like Playboy, Penthouse, etc. Every provider will tell you she has a tight pussy but the reality can often be very different. If it's because I have a small penis, so be it- I'm just looking for information from the hobbyists on this board. Half of the providers that I have seen have come from personal recommendations of hobbyists for a variety of reasons. How does my praise of a provider hurt other providers business- wouldn't reviews do the same thing if I give a provider high numbers, which might influence another hobbyist to see her rather than someone with lower numbers? Please??? I love tight, tasty, and beautiful pussies.
If I was a provider I would never consider seeing you after this string. It is all about you and your stupid ego. The fact that you "keep score" and are capable of making the above statement speaks volumes about what a P---k you really are.
he has said or asked on this board or things he has said or done in person? That is the real thing that would help the ladies on your side of the fence!
Glass half empty or half full? Grasp opportunity when it knocks don't be afraid to open the door!
I think I saw some responses by you stating this thread actually helped you in one way or another! 
This was my only response to my thread. I don't care to give threads of this nature a whole lot of attention.
I have not met I B Dumb because:
He haggles and tries to negotiate a discount.
I am too expensive for him.
Backchannel-talk about him has been all negative.
I think we would lack compatibility (since I like to have intercourse).
I don't expect him to contact me anytime soon unless I offer a 1/2 off discount on my service. But then again, he would haggle this rate too.
that was your only response, but thank you for answering the question it would have been the same either way!
Perhaps you are too expensive for me... good for you if you're making a living. However, I don't know who you are since you are hiding behind an alias. Perhaps you will pm me and we can discuss your concerns. I really haven't had any problem finding upscale providers to accommodate me. I don't expect I will in the future.
-- Modified on 3/8/2010 3:09:43 PM
thread under my real handle.
I *MIGHT* agree with I_B_Dum51560, but it is not me.
For you to send me a mean and CREEPY pm accusing me of being that alias is very RUDE.
Good luck!
SG
What else could it be? Most of what we say here about various escorts is subjective; it's simply our opinion and while some will agree with it, others will not. It doesn't mean there is no value in a person's opinion; sharing opinions is a huge part of what we do here. Reviews are very subjective; the escort that one guy thinks is just the hottest girl who knows every button to push for him is the same girl who someone else thinks is fair looking and pretty good in bed but he's seen quite a few that were better. By your definition, when I give an escort a 9 in a review or even rave about what she was like then I have implicitly said that every other escort I reviewed who got a lesser score or I didn't praise so much is "not so good."
Eliminate subjectivity and all we are left with is things like the items on an escort's menu, is she reliable and on time, what are her rates, etc. TER would not be nearly so useful and interesting if that were the case.
Useful and interesting to whom?
TER decides the criteria for reviews, not you. However subjective, we all accept that. Thank goodness they haven't decided to start critiquing a woman's vagina, regardless of how objective or subjective. It has no more place here than critiquing a hobbyist's penis. Some things are appropriate and some are just not.
Stating your opinion does not necessarily give you the right or make it okay to analyze something that a woman or a man has absolutely no control over. The more nitpicky you get, the less providers want to be reviewed and the pickier they will get about who they want to see. Does that serve any purpose? And how relevant is the "prettiness" of her pussy in regard to the things most hobbyists deem important? Honestly, grow up.
This IS our back channel!
I believe you missed my main point, which was that most of what is said here is subjective. That's my area of disagreement with Drumsticks and is why I replied to his post, not yours.
When I read the OP, my first reaction was clearly very different from yours as I didn't make much of it at all. I've seen any number of similar threads where guys have talked about their favorite ladies from various aspects and saw this as just another one of those.
Obviously, you saw it differently. If I understand you, you believe that this particular thread crosses the line into a TMI situation and is actually counter-productive and will worsen the overall relationship between escorts and hobbyists. Fair enough and it's definitely worth thinking about.
and I believe you missed mine which was directed at your comment:
"Eliminate subjectivity and all we are left with is things like the items on an escort's menu, is she reliable and on time, what are her rates, etc. TER would not be nearly so useful and interesting if that were the case."
On TER you get a complete profile that includes all of that and more INCLUDING the description of her body and breasts. Many hobbyists go on to be even more specific in their reviews so where do you draw the line?
As I posted to ldm51560:
"If expressing personal opinion is subjective then what useful purpose does it serve to share it, specially if it isn't going to influence whether or not you would see a provider?"
I don't know exactly where the line is and I strongly suspect that there wouldn't be much consensus on its location, beyond certain obvious things like disclosing personal information about people's live outside of this.
I believe trying to eliminate subjectivity is completely unworkable as that is most of what is said here and personal opinions are inherently subjective. I also believe that the more opinions you get, the easier it becomes for someone else to decide whether a given escort is someone they want to see. There are some people's opinions I value more than others because their tastes are similar to mine. Others not so much but that doesn't mean their opinions are useless as I am sure other people do find them useful. As to whether an opinion is or is not going to influence whether someone sees a certain provider, how do you know what someone will find useful? After all, I see many reviews that are very descriptive and complimentary (or sometimes not) of the escort's vagina. Do you think reviewers should not include this in their reviews?
Just when I thought the worst things on this board were the whining and the low brow sarcasm you have proven that there is pretty much no limit to how repulsive and socially inept men can be...
And just an FYI I am not a provider, just a somewhat ashamed hobbiest...pathetic...
"toot you own horn" post, attempting to get "atta boys" for the list provided.
"Atta boys" seem to help make the penis grow a lil bigger in the mind of the horn tooter...
The board? It is a HOOBYISTS board for sure.
Here for "one single reason"...
refer to link provided.
Class and tact are priceless. The GENTLEMEN who truly HAVE both, just have it and they do not have to draw attention to themselves to make it SEEM as if they do.
I love those types.
I read this board all the time, and I have to tell you, its a big sissy fest.
The guys comments are legit, whether its dumb or not is irrelevant, its a review board.
I'm 90% here to visit you for your body, if i wanted good conversation I'd go on a date.
I wanna know about your pussy ass tits, hair tattoo's and piercings, ethnicity, height and weight.
this guys just commenting about one of those fine categories.
review away, maybe give me more detail as to why you rate your list in said order tho.
...I would prefer to be left off said lists in the future.
Honestly, reviews already take any surprise out of a session. So why do so even more with the aforementioned list? Personally, I appreciate leaving something to the imagination and the gentlemen who respect the need for an element of privacy. You don’t have to share everything with the world. Besides, I offer a lot more to my sessions (i.e. genuine companionship) that I'd prefer not to focus on a particular body part as if that is all I’m good for. It’s not my style, but thanks for thinking of me.
Now if anyone wants to put me on a "great kisser" or "passionate lover" list, please do. But please no comments on the taste and tightness of my vajajay. Divulging such details to the public can be quite embarrassing.
Moreover, these “best [insert attribute or skill here]” lists are not only unfair to the ladies, but they are subjective. You may think a certain lady has a large cooch cooch, but in all actuality, your penis just doesn’t fit her right, while there may be other guys who swear to her being so tight. Further, the type of bbbj you prefer may be considered awful to another gent. Perspective.
Have a great week.
Xoxo,
Gia
(No worries, I know you mean well.)
a stupid and classless thread to start.
toungue wrestle and I win I can't tell everyone? BTW, do you know that girl in the picture, is her pussy tighter, tastier and prettier than yours? Just sayin'! ROFLMFAO! She used your quote on her picture, so I figured you must be close to her! :P~
LMAO!
All in fun.
but I like the way you think...
first a lady all naked inviting someone to be with her...
then another lady inviting someone to join her behind the red curtain...
hmmmmm the last one, is she afraid we will wake the crickets or wtf? OMG! We are outside closing our eyes won't keep people from seeing us!
I have to agree with previous posters about leaving certain things up to the imagination. There are alot of things that I consider when seeing and revewing a provider. How tight body parts are is insignificant to me.
I have even seen a couple of the providers you mentioned and I can't remember "how tight" or "how pretty" their p&%^&y was. Way too many other things to turn me on.
It would be like a provider saying "well, which hobbyist has the best/biggest johnson"? Well not really, but you get my point. Just think how that would fly over.
I think that I can ask whatever I want and those that have pertinent info can respond. I'm not really concerned how offended the providers are about this. I'm the one offering the donation and I've wasted plenty over the years by deceptive ads with pictures that are way old or assertions about physical prowess that were untrue. It seems that even in the best instances that the very nature of advertising oneself as a provider is somewhat deceptive. The best source of info for me is other hobbyist who want to share that info with me- it has been invaluable. I refuse to accept that the providers control this board and set the standards for what is acceptable to ask. I'm not using an alias but the provider making negative comments about me refuses to let us know who she is...I wouldn't want to inadvertently call her for an appt since she is soo offended and I am such slime. I have no problems getting dates and really doubt if I will in the future. If you are offended by my question, then move on and don't respond- your opinion is of no value to me. If you have questions about my morals or values, then read my reviews; I am very respectful. If anyone is embarrassed to respond to my question on the board then feel free to pm me. I've made over a 200+ appts with upscale providers over the past three years who know me and have been willing to see me time and time again. Please dear providers with aliases in this thread reveal yourself or pm me with you concerns. I love tight, tasty, and beautiful pussies but I also respect all the providers that I have seen (70+) as real persons of value and with feelings.
Give everyone what you just said you consider useful information publicly! Why PM? If you have been burned, no one else wants to be, right? So who are the ones who have the "ugly" and "loose as a goose" ones? You wouldn't have to worry about inadvertently calling anyone who might be offended that way. If you already have or share that information with other hobbyists, I guess no one has to worry about it then!
I can say the same. if you are offended that I am offended, move on. I have the same right here to express an opinion, whether under an alias or not. Makes no difference.
Yes, by all means give your opinion and it will be valued but some but attacks and threats of blackballing, etc only show your real motives and character. I've not threatened or attacked you, I've even offered to discuss it with you but you seem bent on making a public spectacle of me. Why don't you address me as an adult and talk with me about your concerns and I can tell you why I asked the question that I did. There are valid reasons. I didn't put anyone down, I only mentioned those that I liked. I like other providers for various other reasons- as I say in my reviews. Each of the providers I mentioned in my post know me and the kind of person that I am and like me. So, are you going to reveal yourself....I didn't think so.
-- Modified on 3/8/2010 7:45:26 PM
When I read the OP's question right after it was posted, before the other replies were written, I wasn't offended at all. In fact, I had a moment of nostalgia remembering some of my encounters that were so good specifically because of the size and width of the dick I was having fun with.
Try as I might, one of them, I can't even remember his name. It was just this perfect, hard, thick, long cock that filled my throat to my trachea. I couldn't wait to jump on.
I didn't post about it. But I sure like the memory of it.
I can understand where LDM is coming from. And I think it's a beautiful thing to brag about. A woman's pussy is such a glorious part of her body. It should be celebrated.
I liked the post and took a moment to lust after the ladies on the OP's list. And we can talk about women, yes even providers, should be lauded for their minds, spirits, souls, intelligence, etc.. I agree. But when I had a double with one of the prominent providers in the area one afternoon, we didn't say very much to eachother.
It was the feel of her breasts, the soft plushness of her lips, the fresh aroma of her pussy, the sexiness of her hips and thighs that had me turned on through out the two hours, and had our gentleman friend glowing all over for weeks after.
I still don't really know what her true personality is like, but I know she is hot as hell, and yes, she has a sweet, tight, sexy pussy.
Anyway, just my two cents....
A woman's pussy SHOULD be celebrated. Only he is not celebrating all of them--only the ones HE deems "tight" and "pretty."
This hasn't anything to do with minds, spirits or souls.
Maybe you would feel differently if he was saying you or one of your friends aren't on the list because you are the ladies he feels are "loose as a goose."
I am not seeing how the OP's list has anything to do with me.
He is stating that he remembers and relishes his time with these ladies and their tight pussies.
I'm not hearing anything negative directed toward me personally. I know my pussy must have some good attributes because I have lot's of return clients. So, I don't need every man on this board to acknowledge it.
Maybe LDM has never had the chance to experience being with me.
And my fond recollections of giant dicks that I've been with, in no way detract from the amazing experiences I've had with other men who are not so hugely endowed but have come up with other creative, sexy ways to make our time together wonderful.
Why does saying something good about one person mean something negative about everyone else?
Just because someone isn't on the list doesn't mean anything negative towards them.
So the OP feeling he gets burned if he isn't made aware that even the best provider might be "loose as a goose" isn't negative?
I didn't say it anything to do with you personally. My statement was rhetorical.
Read his other posts as well. Maybe that will shed some light.
if for no other reason than to hear what Anna has to say.
Now I feel slighted, I know it wasn't me you had that much fun with, I am not gigantic! maybe if you tell how big it was I can reach that size by buying one of those pumps before next time! Wink! he he he rock on mssssssssss Anna
why doesn't it come already activated. Why do I have to go find the fucking activation code...why??!!!
Give me a fucking break!
You just publicly posted that out of your 17 reviews or ladies you’ve seen that your favorite pussies are: Elizabeth, Giamarie Lynn, Alissa, Maya, and Kaylee. So your least favorites pussies are: Hilary, Sexy Savanna, Bella, Angie, Becky, Leann, Sweet Sarah, Ajala, Madison, Paige, Sheila, Kelly and Anya. And you don’t see how that is problematic or offensive to the ladies?That is fucking ridiculous and naive of you. You think any lady wouldwantto see you after this post and your other one about haggling? Stop boosting about seeing so many well-reviewed or upscale ladies when you have to haggle to see them. And yes I've heard about you. At least one lady on your favorite list wouldn't see you again if her life depended on it, because you tried to haggle her. So stop shilling for her. Its lame.
And youre not concerned you've offended any providers? You don't care how they feel at all? You don't care if they are uncomfortable with you putting the tightness or lack of tightness of their pussies on blast? Idiotic.
I’ve been lurking for some time and seen some dumb shit here, but your posts take the cake. They should win an award for the dumbest posts ever. Get lost
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I've seen over 70 providers. Wow! This really gets you angry. Maybe that's the real issue here. Let it go, I like tight, tasty, and beautiful pussies. I told you who my favorites were.
are the two things that stand out in this thread.
Speaking towards all the comments in this thread to this point.
Ladies have said they prefer not to be mentioned in such posts, many others tell their clients that when they see them. NO REVIEWS no public speading of views one way or the other. It plays to the mystery of the ladies and to their privacy. I would not place names in a list such as this uness I asked the lady if she minded being included. So the list would be very much subjective to which ladies I have seen and which of those are ok with being talked about in such a way in a public forum. This does not mean that it is not a question for this forumn at all, it certainly has livened up the board and given out pertinent information to be used on both sides of teh aisle; has it not? It has helped some ladies unhappy with the post and some comments refine their lists of who they might see and who they wouldn't correct? Ladies that don't approve of this type of question should look at it as an opportunity to help them screen potential clients!
Taking things personal is never a positive for anyone. It will only blind you from the information being offered. Use it to your advantage! Speaking to the 3 items within the OP list; pretty(subjective to personal tastes and his penis size, pretty much a no help either way for another hobbyist just like review numbers for looks), tightness(from what ladies have told me can be helped through muscle control and exorcise so it is not a thing that is beyond a ladies control), taste(is also very much dependant on the lady and not out of her control via eating habits/personal cleanliness/ and care of time a lady is actively working).
This question should not be taken with or without any more scutiny than discussing favors of shaved or not, spinners/average or bbw body types, natural breast or surgically enhanced, red heads/blondes/brunettes or even if a lady or gent prefers one nationality over another.
In all things we scrutinise each other, who we will date, who we would sleep with, who we would take to a ball game and who we would take to the opera, but because we would do some of these things with certain people, does not mean we don't want the others as friends for one reason or another.
Some might ask if this same post would have gleaned better result for a pure hobbyist perspective on the HO board, but then a great many eyes would not see the post.
Reality, only one person posted a list and that was the OP, but the post did create discussion which is the actual board name and purpose.
Suggestion, have fun, learn from what you read, pass by those that offend you and take note of the OP and comments of the ones that either draw you into your comfort zone or drag you way beyond yours!
Sorry for the long post, just want information to be gleaned and accepted for all posts that do not attack anyone.
"Speaking to the 3 items within the OP list;"
"pretty (subjective to personal tastes and his penis size, pretty much a no help either way for another hobbyist just like review numbers for looks)"
How is "pretty" subjective to penis size?
tightness (from what ladies have told me can be helped through muscle control and exorcise so it is not a thing that is beyond a ladies control)
Sorry, that is incorrect information. "Exercise" is very often not helpful. I suggest you do a bit more reading on this. There are surgical procedures and lasers although that is a bit extreme.
taste (is also very much dependant on the lady and not out of her control via eating habits/personal cleanliness/ and care of time a lady is actively working).
A woman's vagina fluctuates greatly in her cycles and many things can affect secretions that are not necessarily controllable or affected by "cleanliness." In fact too much cleaning, douching, and use of products can alter the flora and create issues. It is often a delicate balance that can be upset by the tiniest thing. Diet is unproven. There are women who can be the right weight, eat all organic food including fruit, drink tons of water and focus on a healthy lifestyle and still have fluctuations on a day to day basis. Vitamins, supplements, medications, all sorts of things can play a role.
as I am not going to get into an arguement over this topic.
"Pretty as to penis size"
As how a man views the look of a pussy compared to how a lady looks at a mans size! All very subjective!
As to exercise and muscle conditioning, it is first hand knowledge from ladies that I have been with in the hobby and not. Ones that have had children and have not. I agree that surgical is extreme, I am very happy with all the women I have seen, no complaints and I am very much am against any surgical corrections for approving appearance for the appeasements of men by women. I like em all natural including the vajajay! OPINION please don't crusify me because I am attracted to 70's look and earlier, I am learning to make adjustments! wink
I agree, there are a TON of vairables and that was my point! Many woman as well as men have no idea how many of the things they do can affect the bodies chemistry. Are all things perfectly controlled, hell no, can some things be done to improve upon things YES on both sides! We don't live in a perfect world, but we can learn from others and do our best to be at our best. Some times people just don't know all the things they can do to be at their best!
but as suggested, if you are as objective as you claim, you might do some reading before making general statements based only on the "ladies" you have been with "in the hobby and not." In your previous post your claim was that these are things that CAN be controlled.
The point about the body's chemistry is that REGARDLESS of doing all the right things there is a certain lack of control over it on any given day. And then there is the matter of personal taste. End of story.
to make anyone else look bad, as everyone has different opinions of what they like. But yes he has a history of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time, and then some. Don't take it so personal! Maybe it should of been on the men's board, but I doubt he had a personal issue with anyone not on the "list." We are ladies, and I am sure his list didn't affect anyones business, no guy looked at his list and said...Oh Im not gonna see anyone else but who is on his list!
Giamarie made a great point! Our anatomy doesn't need to be broadcasted,
Yet, don't take everything so personal!
A little list doesn't make your pussy any different than you know it is...Beauty and tightness is in the eye of the beholder, and d*** size!
-- Modified on 3/8/2010 2:48:45 PM
You have taken lots of shots at me. Actually, I do know who you are but you don't seem to have the guts to let anyone else know who you are. Hmmmmm! In the past you always seem to shout down those who disagree with you. Maybe some age and humility will help you in the future. I think that you are a very dysfunctional person and your rage appears to bear that out on this board.
some of us don't.
Many aspects of the women we choose to see are under their control. This is one that isn't. It depends on genetics.
Pretty or tight is subjective. Tasty may be controllable to some extent. But it is the guy that usually chooses the time as a general rule and we need to understand that. Some timing may not be the best for either, not just the gal. Some of us shower, groom and brush our teeth out of respect before we meet them. Some of us don't because we either choose not to or can't due to work.
As most of you know, I favor one gal in particular and it has nothing to do with any part of her anatomy. It has to do with how we interact. For me I have found my quest in this hobby and I can't thank her enough for the priviledge of meeting her so long ago.
...and this thread will be complete!
