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WOW that couldn't be more accurate!  I would love to add but I am afraid that said it all.Thanks for that post~!

Thanks to those that "get it".  And thank you for your posting!!

Despite the amount of money you have to pay for the local talent, do I agree with getting what you pay for.  I can't say that for the visitors, for even though they are very attractive and glamorous, they tend to want to want that fast large cash with no feeling or compassion in the session.
Our local talent, (at least the one's that I've met) have been caring and I've had the greatest time! Never seemed to be about the money.
The young glamourous visitors, tend to want you to pay the initial price just to be in the same room with them as a sur charge.
Every time I see those visitors, I am tempted, but I've been that route before. They tend to watch the clock, and treat you like you brought in the cold wind.(Very bitter)
I've yet to have experienced the legendary Victoria, the charismatic Catherine, Dazzling Desiree, or Tantalizing Tara, Marvelous Madison, Tantalizing Tuzdae, or Curvaceous Kamry. But I have this to look forward to, and for the amount of money, it will be worth it.  Many a good reviews tell a story, and everyone can't be lying.  Catherine, all I ask is just one chance to find out for myself about that intriging mind of yours. There's nothing more attractive to me than an intelligent woman, with quick wit, and novella tongue (in more ways than one) that would stimulate mentally as well as intimately!

$350 an hour is cheap she says?!?

Color me gone when I can't get served for $250-$300/hour.  In fact, every time I see a provider posting about how we shouldn't cmplain about rates that rise faster than inflation, I start to question the utility of full service providers in general.

Here's my opinion:  I think biz is falling off for most, if not all, providers, and they're really unhappy to see postings of any sort that suggest the hourly rate is too high.
If this wasn't true, I think the providers would be content to sit back and laugh at these posts.


I don't hear any laughter.........

ScrimmDaddy

Passionate GFE provider that the twin cities has ever had. I am speaking about your public bash of Tiger/Nora.  Nora is what any girl who even  desires to consider herself a passionate real GFE should measure herself against.
And  when you told her not to advertise on this board that was laughable. Long ago did you ever read her reviews or enter her den of pleasure?  I guess not. You wouldn't be deserving of a woman like her.

Not to cast stones, but judging from your reviews you're not getting much 'utility' anyway.

Is that this "hobby" is a LUXURY  - NOT a necessity.  It's not meant to be affordable for everyone.  Simply put, if one can't afford the going rate, then one needs to find another hobby.

Thank you Cleavers for posting this perspective.

A luxury is EXACTLY what it's always been for me.  I already have other "hobbies".  

The use of the word "utility" or any expression of that general mindset is very telling.

I agree 100% with what Catherine said about Nora.  Anybody who bashes her in any way never met her, a loss they'll never fully comprehend.

It has been written:  "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."

i agree with catherine... Nora was the best experience you could ever have. we miss Nora.

"Son, when you buy the best, you only cry once."

So what is this public bash you speak of?  Simply because I pointed out that this is a Website designed to help mongers find providers?  Get real.
I think perhaps you are focusing your anger or apprehension of larger issues on me.  If that makes you feel better, fine, go right ahead.
I'll not be swayed from my opinion that many providers are over priced, and I'll not be dissuaded from speaking my mind on this board.  

Have a great day,

ScrimmDaddy

I've had some hits and misses, but the hits are usually with providers under the $300 mark.
ScrimmDaddy

Catherine was talking about the post you made the other day telling Tiger/Nora that she did not belong on this board.

Like I said, I'm one who will speak his mind.  I guess some people have a hard time dealing with people who say anything other than "Our local girls are the best ever!"
My point in the posting you refer to is that the board is used for hobbyists and providers to make informed decisions on how to allocate their time and funds.  

Regardless of Tiger's past history on this board, this isn't the place to post if you provide massage but not a happy ending.  If for some reason, a former provide DOES want to continue posting on this board, even though they do not provide happy endings, then they should state that explicitly, so that hobbyists know that she's only providing straight massage with no extras.


FWIW, I have no axe to grind with Tiger, Catherine, or anyone else, but I do see TER as a real asset for hobbyists as a tool to help us maked informed decisions.  The utility of TER goes beyond a blanket statement of "Just see a local girl, they're all fabulous" even though I KNOW some of the local girls are fabulous (I don't review every provider I see...)

I hope this helps y'all understand what I'm trying to say....

ScrimmDaddy

Cleavers,that sounded like a pep talk for other providers? One can only wonder what the motivation of all negatives?Are you afraid the market rate may change? And FYI, this comes from someone who has never negotiated a fee for service.I make the choice, and armed with the provider profile, I enter each liaison practicing impeccable hygiene so as the experience can be as mutually rewarding for both parties, regardless of time spent or predetermined fee. bottom line.... The provider has to decide on the fee, because only a happy provider can make me happier than I already am!!

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I was trying to make two points, but I thought Cleavers was a provider so my 1rst. point is moot.My 2nd point was to the fellas with a suggestion that if you prepare for your visit like you hope your provider would [and I don't mean spitting your tobacco juice outside as opposed to inside] and put your best foot forward being the best person you can be so the provider has a good time, you might get invited back for a discount, a little extra time, or at the very least,a special effort on future visits. The lady for her price is still your choice.

Is it common for a provider to offer an unpublished discount to a regular?  What is the motivation for such a discount?  If the guy has already established a willingness to pay the published rate enough to the point where he is considered a regular, why would the provider talk him into paying less?

(I'm not talking about Madison's 5-hour blocks which anybody can buy because they are published rates.  I think that's a great offer, BTW.)

It's a luxury in the same way that oxygen is a luxury.

...or maybe that's just me.  

“Is that this "hobby" is a LUXURY  - NOT a necessity.”

Many would argue that sex is necessary to maintain mental health, so if you’re not getting much, if any, for free, I think it could reasonably be argued that it’s a NEED for some.  




“It's not meant to be affordable for everyone.  Simply put, if one can't afford the going rate, then one needs to find another hobby.”

Says who?  Historically, the world’s oldest profession has not catered exclusively, or even predominately, to the wealthy.  At what point did this change, why did it change, and why do you think that’s a good thing?  Sounds like a rather elitist attitude to me.

I'm not arguing that sex isn't a necessity, I agree, most people don't just want, but NEED sex.  But what is NOT a necessity is being with an escort.

When I said "It's not meant to be affordable for everyone..." I was referring to the higher class escorts on the internet, not any other sex-worker.  

I think it's already been established in other posts, even by me, that there is a wide variety of sex-workers with a wide variety of rates that makes it more accessable to a wide variety of budgets.  Street hookers will be cheaper, the girls who work for the incall saunnas are going to be cheaper, most that you find in City Pages and other news forums will be cheaper, and yes, if you do your homework, there are girls on the internet who are cheaper than the ones who consider themselves higher class escorts.  Some guys can only afford the street girls, some can afford a little bit more.  

What my point is, if you can't afford the internet girls, stop putting them down for what they charge, (because not every guy is bitching about the rate), and look elsewhere.

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