I am doing better and recovering from a traumatic experience and will not be planning a trip back.  I was not traveling with the computer so was unable to post.  Thank you to the kind gentleman I met monday morning and to the sweetheart that let me cry on his shoulders Tuesday and was there for me in my time of need.  I am sorry I was unable to spend quality time with you due to my emotional state and you are truly a gentleman.  I am also sorry for having to cancel my appointments on  Tuesday and Wed. but I am sure you all hopefully understand that I was unable meet and am still unable to meet with anyone and had to cancel my Thursday meeting on the way home.  I even had one of you offer when I told you I was sick to bring me food!  I wish I had seen you before this incident as you seemed so sweet and genuine.  I am going through all types of emotions right now please everyone stay safe and be good to each other.  

Gemini

WHAT HAPPENED

Gem,

I am so sorry that something like this had to happen to you. You are a most beautiful, talented, and wonderful lady.

Gem,
I am so very sorry that this happened to you.  I know you to be a reputable provider and have never heard an ill word spoken of you.

I was saddened to hear about what happened.  The Twin Cities is a WONDERFUL place and I am sorry that one A$$ had to ruin it for you (there's always an A$$ in the bunch..right up there with the town idiot).  It's a shame that you didn't get to meet some the great gents that make the TC so great.

Be well and stay safe,
Missy

Gem, I had great time, loved talking with you and wouldn't hesitate to see you again. Next time we meet we'll do dinner and room with air conditoning. lol

Take Care

I do not know what happened, but I get the feeling maybe it is something like what happened to Missy a while back, if so I am saddened

Gemini I hope you are recovering both physically and mentally from the issues this A$$ caused you. This is very uncommon thing to happen here in the twin cities. Hopefully your opinon of the rest of the great guys here will not be tainted as well.

by one of the TC's locals.  Mystique has never had anything but great experiences with the TC's gents and we were shocked to receive the back channel info on this persons actions.  Obviously we will not book with that person again.

I am so sorry to hear about your tramatic experience In the Twin Cities.I  have seen this gentleman,and he got rough with me also!

I talked to a few ladies today and It seems to be the same feedback on how they wont see him and how rough he is.I will be backchanneling the ladies of Phoenix and passing his name along.
He was wrong and needs to realize he is getting a bad name and scarring ladies with his slapping women around.I have never been slapped by anyone but him the whole timne I have been in the biz!!!
   The Twin Cities guys  are A1 in my book and I hope you will come visit them again!!!
    Kisses  to you Gemini

-- Modified on 3/24/2006 9:54:20 AM

we are now just hearing about it????? A guy like this should never get a 2nd,3rd or anymore chances! He has to be outed and backchanneled to every provider in the country so as to be STOPPED with no further harm! Good luck and stay safe, everyone!!!

Its tragic us ladies have to worry or go thru this  kind of abuse.
Ladies lets stick together give each other references! Ladies you need a reference dont hesitate to email me [email protected]
But some ladies fear posting because of the guys like that.
Lets make the Twin Cities a safer haven for all.
Mandy

Actually I got a refrence for him and cleared him.How can you Tell If a guy is getting rougher and rougher? I also heard Gemini got a refrence and cleared him.I will get the word around and ladies feel free to email me for his name,screen name,and number.He will not get away with this anymore.
  I know he is reading this and I hope he knows now If he likes S and M he should stick with the doms.

-- Modified on 3/24/2006 10:36:54 AM

i'll provide mr x with all the sadism he can handle, no charge.

Stay well my friend.

Gem, I want to add my voice to the others in condemning the actions of one sorry individual.

For once I am at a loss for words to express how angry and outraged I feel. No human has the right to brutalize another against their will.

I heard through back channels about what happened  to you.. I had seen this guy about 2 times before.. XXXXXXX and the first 2 times were great.. and then the cheap ass liar came out of him.. He said .." come down to Phoenix and I`ll pay for everything.." BELIEVING him.. I went down there and he did`nt give me a dime.. what a FREAK.. ( and then another rip off artist got me.. GEEZ..LOL).. so.. if I had known about you seeing him.. I would of told you all of this..>>> he likes the slapping.. BUT usually asks and of course if he SLAPPED me too hard.. I would punch and knock him out.. ( there is something  to be said about being in better shape than your AVERAGE guy..LOL).. well.. take care dear.. and if you want to talk to someone.. call me anytime.. !! L.J Montana

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-- Modified on 3/24/2006 10:38:26 PM

I was never asked and told him to fuc@ing stop!It left a red mark on my face for a whole  day.I would never have cleared his refrence and am sorry that it has gotten this far.I have him on my do not see list and tell ladies that when they call me for a refrence.

"No human has the right to brutalize another against their will."

I agree with you, trustno20... except in the case of this ball-less coward. For him, I'd be willing to waive my sense of sympathy and decency. My brutalization of him would know no mercy.

Well... I know LJ is not one to mince words!... And I have no doubt that you could Kick his Ass... It is sad to hear when guys don't know how to treat a woman and lack any class!!

-- Modified on 3/24/2006 5:55:34 PM

If any of you ladies need any more info please feel free to B/c me.  Thank you for all the friends that have helped me through this and showed me that it was not just me.  I told a friend last month that I had not had a rough experience in the time I have been around.  Wish I would of found some wood to knock on.  I would of fought back more but alot of times with certain personality types that is what feeds them.  Thank you again for the ladies and gents and agency that has come forward and make me realize I was not the only one that has had problems with this man.  Sorry that I am still dazed this just goes to show that there are still great people and a great community out here.  And thank you TER for the PO Board for us ladies.


Love,

Gemini

You know you can call me anytime. Even if it's just to talk about the weather or have me tell you a joke or help you find a highway on the map! xoxoxoxoxo

You are free to make the charge, and then pass the specific info by PM or email to anyone that inquires...

(**edited by moderator**  exchange any specifics privately please!)

I've been hearing about this creep for a year now.  

Another guy from Michigan did the same to me (slapping, choking, holding down).  I have no qualms calling the police when I think someone is working his way to killing someone.

-- Modified on 3/25/2006 7:56:37 AM

Sorry Ben, I found it funny what this creep does for a living, pond scum.  Didn't realize a persons occupation is too informative to give him away.  Sorry

-- Modified on 3/25/2006 8:01:45 AM

I know who he is and I'm keeping a very close eye on him.

and make crazy accusations on the boards (rip offs)(fat asses) but the women cannot, specially when many others back up the story.

this guy's name needs to be public. He's a criminal. Gem just called me for touring London advice and told me what happened. I am appalled and sickened by the attitude under the guise of "it's hearsay". HOW many women on here do you need to hear from before this guys gets publicly outted?

NO woman, whether she's an escort or not deserves this type of treatment. Law enforcement spends so much time trying to hunt us down for being dangerous criminals. It's time they started looking for the real ones. Like this guy.

Pissed,
Anneke

killing their clients... and how many hobbiests who get a kick out of pain head down the path to killin....   would bet that it is biased to the hobbiests going down that path... no stats to back me up... just a gut feel.

DISGUSTING!  I had a stalker arrested in NYC several years ago.  I confessed to LE that I was in Manhattan to work as an escort.  The response I got was this:  "Mam, it doesn't matter if you are a streetwalker.  You are a human being who does not deserve this sort of abuse."  These attackers think that they can get away with it because they think that the ladies won't report the incidents.  Let's show them wrong ladies!!  I testified in another case many years ago against a guy on AMERICA'S MOST WANTED who had been brutally raping women.  His crimes were getting worse with each attack.  I was the one who got away, but I testified to his M.O.   I cannot convey the satisfaction that the victims and their families got when they nailed that SOB in his coffin.  The problem with many of these creeps (as the detective told me) is that they will get worse with every crime they commit. What is next...murder??? If you are attacked report it or this man will continue to hurt people. F*** anonymity for these criminals. Sell your "anonymity" to their loved ones when they are dead.

sadened and frustrated,

Sedona

several years ago there was an attacker in NYC that had been getting progressively worse with his crimes. I know that he pissed off the wrong people and they set him up....  Never heard of him brutalizing anymore providers.  He probably didn't didn't report his abuse either.

Your concern for your fans in your time of need is of astounding character.
I hope your recovery is swift and complete.

.. just don't want to hear from any escort about any negative issues she might have had with one of them.  Since my experiences there led me to believe that is the prevailing feeling among TC hobbyists, maybe that's the reason nothing was ever posted about this individual before... escorts in TC know better than to bring their negative issues to this board and to risk being blackballed!  I believe that is the reason this bottom crawler has been able to get away with so much s**t thus far without it having been mentioned at all on this board.

I'm not about to beat my issues to death again about my experiences when I visited TC in 2003... very old news, long gone and forgiven.  I can only speak from my personal experience, not for the rest of the TC escorts and their experoiences here! But I remember very well exactly how it went when I expressed my very negative feelings about what happened to me in TC... I was blasted off this board as a total liar.  I am a well reviewed, reputable escort in San Diego, I am NOT a liar and I have no reason to make up lies about anyone or anything!

In reading through this thread, notice just how many escorts are saying they already know about this pig, and/or had a bad experience with this individual, that they are aware of his S & M tendencies and the fact that he has already hurt several of them and just gone too far! Why haven't any of these ladies who have been unfortunate enough to run into this bottom crawler posted their experiences on the TC board?  I'm not picking on the ladies for not having spoken up about this individual already. I know from personal experience just how it goes on this board when an escort attempts to state any negative issues she may have had with a hobbyist, in the hope of preventing the same thing from happening to other ladies. I don't live in TC nor do I intend to tour there again... maybe it takes an escort from another state to indentify what goes on in TC and speak up about it!  If a local San Diego bottom crawler such as this one laid a hand on me, hurt me or scared me in any way, I too would kick his sorry ass so hard he would spend the rest of his life trying to find it. But in addition, I would also immediately YELL loud and clear on the SD and the National Board about exactly what had happened to me, and I know that I would not be branded as a total liar in either of those two forums as I was on the TC board.  

I wonder why these ladies who have had their own bad experiences with this pig have been so hesitant to speak up on this board until one of them gets badly slapped around and more seriously hurt.  Does an escort need to be assaulted more seriously for the TC community of hobbyists to finally express their sympathy and outrage for her rather than calling her a liar for expressing her negative issues with  one of them?  In truth, is that the way it really works on the TC board?

Ben Dover, please note that I am NOT naming names here, I am simply expressing my negative opinion about the TC board's hostile climate and attitude towards escorts who do speak up about negative issues they may have with hobbyists.  Hopefully you are enough of a grown up by now to allow both positive and negative opinions on this board, even if they do come from a mere escort!

Suzanne in San Diego






-- Modified on 3/27/2006 1:50:14 PM

As was in your case, all talk, no legal action!

 A provider is a public icon, once she advertises herself on a public Mag. or web she is not a private individual anymore,... But hobbyists are considered private citizens with the right to privacy! It's illegal to out a private citizen without legal proof and evidence...
If they have a case number, and the judgment is in, then sure they are more than welcomed to post it on board,... other than that, No...

 It's the same as reviewing Providers and Not reviewing clients,.. provider = Public icon , Client = private citizen,...

My thanks to Jimbo who alerted us on the Philly board.  This is horrendous and, speaking for the Philly hobbyists, our love and best wishes for both a physical and emotional recovery. Any time some tool like this gives the good guys out here a bad name, it is unconscionable and clearly there would be a long line of us to do unto him as he did unto you x 10!

And to all the lovely ladies out there, be well and be careful!!

I learned a lesson about backchannel.  You can't possibly warn everyone.  

I was new to escorting when I ran across the rapest.  I was affraid to contact police so I called everyone I knew.  But, backchannel only works in theory.

Two days later I got a call from a girl who had been raped and beaten by the same guy.  Obviously someone I didn't know

Suzanne is making us all out to be the devil. I see no shortage of sympathy for the provider and disgust for the perp. in these posts.

Maybe you should include some hobbiests in your back channel communications. Then maybe something will get done, seems like alot of guys here would love a crack at him.

I don't like the legal shit any more that you ladies do, but it is better to have a board where we can post "Some guy slapped me around, PM me for details" than have no warning system at all!  So please, take a deep breath and consider all these ramafications first.
 BTW, the boards and hobby have come along way since your insodent, since Lisa's tragedy, and since the MNGC problems, wouldn't you say? "Back channel warnings" have evolved along with the rest of the hobby....

What I don't get is why these ladies don't go through the prosess and get CONVICTIONS on these guys! Or at least press charges so they become part of the public record! It is useless and short-sighted to try and flame men out on a message board where everything is posted unde3r the guise of being "fantacy"!
 Not only that, but then it opens the door for abuse and we get the crazies like Jenny or Mental case Mathews coming along and launching false accusations against men in an effort to hurt them or control them and it destroys the the trust of the whole community!
When something is truely dangerous, take it seriously and take it to LE, then there will be a case file... Up until that point, it's all just talk!

A provider is a public icon, once she advertises herself on a public Mag. or web she is not a private individual anymore,... But hobbyists are considered private citizens with the right to privacy! It's illegal to out a private citizen without legal proof and evidence...
If they have a case number, and the judgment is in, then sure they are more than welcomed to post it on board,... other than that, No...

It's the same as reviewing Providers and Not reviewing clients,.. provider = Public icon , Client = private citizen,...

It's futile.  At best, 5% will ever read or get an email about this creep.  Ultimately LE would have to get involved by one who's been victimized for a chance to stop this guy.  

As far as the man suspected of killing Lisa, he's using an email addy that indicates he's a physician.  He's not, but it's something to keep an eye out for.

Regarding my issues a year back?  He's been allowed back on TER to use this forum to manipulate the system via shills.  If you cross his path and don't agree with his agenda, you will have your reputation ruined and drive-by's at your home.  I am not the only one victimized.  To dredge this up would only incite certain idiots who think he's who he is not.  I do however want him to know that homeland security is in place and if he comes to my home again, he'll be on tape and LE will be contacted.

That the hobby itself if illegal.  What a conundrum.  The serious crime and potential for true harm is not punished or prevented, but the minor harm (if indeed it is a harmful activity) is judged so harshly.  so, how do we deal with it?  I am for decriminilization - would do wonders for the safety of all involved.

The "back channels" don't get to every provider (or not every provider gets to them). Also,  don't you think that TER has an obligation to report violent clients (especially when they are members) to LE?  If, indeed, you are opperating legally then isn't it equally legal and your ethical responsibility to do this? It not only protects the provider, but the purpetrators from vigilanty attacks (he would be safer behind bars). Besides LE reads these boards anyway- it's not like they don't already know about TER.  If this is not the "answer" (it certainly is not the only sollution other than vigilanty tactics) then what is? Many providers HAVE banded together but it has been out of necessity.  Our community has multiplied in numbers over the past several years, but so have the undesirables (rip offs and rough/violent clients). There are a large amount of predatory clients out there that make our jobs scary.  It is unfortunate for the multitudes of wonderful clients that they will have to get dragged through more riggorous screening when seeing new providers.  How can we, collectively, as a community help to keep eachother safe???? One suggestion is to require that all clients provide a real first and last name upon booking. Then at a neutral location he must show his driver's license. If the name is different than the one he booked with- he's out.  The provider then calls "a friend" and lets them know the full name, address, and DL # .  THEN they meet back in the room, she gets her gift and the session takes place.  Many clients would feel this was an intrusion and wouldn't want to cooperate- but if this became and industry standard they wouldn't have any other choice. I've been in this business for eight years and have seen a lot of really really bad shit happen to providers (even one of my close friends who was violently raped in DC). Still these things are happening and they are becoming more frequent.   We can chose to ignore it or do something about it. Any other suggestions folks???

Misty...you have had many issues.  Why don't you keep the past in the past. It is old news.  Sounds like you still have a grudge against this hobbyist.

Glad to see you have your security system in place and making you feel safe and out of harms way.

My post was a responce to Ben Dover's.  

You're correct in thinking I'd consider someone driving to my home and spreading lies as something not easily forgiven.  I consider this man dangerous and am NOT alone.

-- Modified on 3/27/2006 2:06:40 PM

Yes, now that an escort was assaulted,  sympathy and outrage is being expressed and some support is being shown for this lady.  But did you read how many of the escorts responding are saying they knew about this guy and/or had first hand experience with him?  Also, please note that I'm not criticizing the fact that TER won't out a hobbyist by naming him, no matter what he does.  I wouldn't expect they would do that without knowing there was a judgment against him.  If you pay attention and read what I actually wrote, nowhere in my post does it say to publish his name on the board.  My point is that no one even posted something like:
'Ladies, please contact me for important safety information', 'I got hurt last night by someone  who got way too rough, pm or email me for more information'  
I've seen posts like that several times on various TER boards relating to being ripped off, the Stiffington saga, someone being too rough and hurting an escort, etc.  There have posts I’ve seen  from hobbyists who I know personally show up too drunk too know what the hell they are doing to an escort, and when I've seen someone like that post asking around about the escorts, I've responded with something like,’ Ladies, please get in touch for important information.'  So I'm not outing the guy and naming him publicly, but I'm also not about to keep quiet when I see him out there trolling again and potentially causing another escort harm.  I've never been slammed for doing something like that, nor has any other escort I'm aware of, but  considering the number of escorts who say they were aware of him, my points is that none of them ever mentioned their issues with him at all, even in the manner I'm suggesting above.  

So again, don't muddy the real issues here by talking about the legality of mentioning a name on this board, not what I asked to do in the first place, or talk about how many hobbyists are being so supportive of the one who got hurt. I never said they weren’t being supportive!  My point is that even though several escorts admit to already knowing what this guy is capable of, not one single word was mentioned on the TC board about this by anyone, not even a hint about it... even something like asking the ladies to get in touch for important safety information, nothing was ever said until an escort was assaulted. That's my example of the hostile climate I'm saying exists on the TC board towards escorts who have the nerve to complain about anything a hobbyists does!

Suzanne in San Diego


-- Modified on 3/27/2006 2:43:32 PM

Would using his TER handle be invasion of privacy? Personal info is a slippery slope (and I certainly have no simpathy for someone who would do this) but at least it would be a start. No-one should have access to the true identity anyway. Forgive me for being nieve but like most hobbists we read reviews and depending on what we read and our personal preferences we make a decsion. If we used our TER handle to schedule that would give the providers an opportunity to see our likes/dislikes and depending on what they read decide to make the date or not just like us. No real names for sure. I understand this would not be a perfect solution be it might be a start. There are members here I hold very different opinions with and by-pass their post and many others I value and it all goes by their TER handle. Lastly does a provider (may be with a line ad) really fall into the catagory as public info? With no pics and no real names used on their part it seems to be they are still private. (web pages maybe not). I for one wouldn't want to see all our wonderful women remove their pics just to be given the same rights as us gentleman. WE  MUST  ALL  PLAY  NICE !!!   This dirty rotten scum has given the T.C. a bad name and in my opition needs to be stopped.  (Now stepping down from my soap box)

This was the first instance I have heard about this particular guy, and some of the posts eluded to prior misbehavior of this guy, I cant say I agree with your perspective, but I still wonder why it was not brought out before, or maybe it has and just did not get around??

-- Modified on 3/27/2006 4:16:47 PM

National Board and on the Phoenix Board, I have to say that there are legal ramifications to outing the guy on the Internet. I believe we can use his handle but not his real name. Say, for instance, that the attack really didn't happen (and I'm not saying it didn't. I truly believe Gemini and the other ladies and think the guy has been a real jerk with some of his postings on TER anyway), what would happen if some of it was exaggerated and the guy was found innocent? The person outing him would be in a lot of legal trouble. I think placing his name on TER and emailing his home address to people is not a good idea. We have to think of this man's family (if he's still living with his wife, children, etc.) However, I do believe PMing or emailing ladies to let them know his identity and his cell number is okay and is helpful. Although many of us are shocked and disturbed by this incident, we have to keep our heads on, too. I, personally, still say if someone did this to me, they'd have to deal with me and my buddies. But everyone deserves their day in court. We just need to know who this guy is so we don't schedule appointments with him, and we need to let Gemini and the other ladies who were abused by him go to the police and file reports and handle it legally. The rest is up to us by not seeing the guy and placing him on the "blacklist" in all counties until this matter is resolved.  And yes, I think he's a jerk.  No matter how much S&M you enjoy -- No means no!

Hugs,
ciara

First of all Suzanne, if your going to reply to a post I made please don't attribute to me things that were said by others.

Now in your last post it sounds like the real problem is that the providers won't use the board and you think it's because of our hostile attitude towards them. There has been alot of discussion on this board since I joined about how rare it is for providers to participate on the board. There are a "few" who routinely participate in discussions. And yes there are some hobbiests who aren't very nice to them. That has been discussed also. Now we have a tragic event, and look how many providers are speaking out.

I'm not mudddying any waters just looking at how this could be dealt with in the future since we can't do anything to prevent whats already happened. You make some good points on how it could be handled, but that will never work on a board where the ladies don't participate.

Any wonder now guys why Ben keeps telling us to treat them nicer??

Suzanne isn't from here, and has made it clear that she is NEVER coming back her on tour, so I don't care how you treat her....

I believe for an act that caused this much anguish to the provider, a PM to inquiring providers should give his full name, physical description, and occupation as he could try and come back with a different alias and harm others. But on a public board it would only cause MORE trouble.

I feel for you, Gemini and hope that all of our words of support will help you get through such a harrowing experience!

Naomi M.

... who knows, I might just change my mind and visit again after all.  But if I do, I'm not about to put up with another lightweight, wimpy assed pointman like the last time (sincere apologies to my previous pointman), I want YOU!  I have very special treat in store for you too... you will be the very first hobbyists I get to practice my newly acquired S&M skills on.  

Don't sweat the donation, just do your pointman duty and consider this session as my special free gift to you!  If you're worrried about not being able to get up 'cos you have to look at ugly, old, over-the-hill little me, that won't be a problem for you either because I'll have a bag over your head, tied tight around you neck the minute you walk in the door!  
In the meantime, go fuck yourself!
S

-- Modified on 3/28/2006 10:44:57 PM

.... the legal issues previously mentioned by BD in my response to you.  It's just so difficult for me to address that brick wall personally, but that's not your problem and I do hope you will accept my apology.

Also, thank you so much for your thoughtful response.
kisses
Suzanne

-- Modified on 3/28/2006 10:53:54 PM

to PM or email providers with his name and number.  I said "not to place it on the Boards." That would be "liable."

Hugs,
Ciara

... she has stated publicly that she doesn't want her assault to gain national attention because she is afraid of repercussions and retaliation. She had the entire thread about her assault and attacker removed from the National Board.  

I could say a lot here, none of it pleasant!  But I will only say one thing... I am disgusted by Gemini Star's attitude and behavior.  I have the horribly unpleasant feeling that her 'don't make a fuss for fear of the repercussions' attitude was a significant factor as to why she was the target of this assault.

I refuse to be counted among escorts of her particularly low caliber, escorts who have no self-esteem whatsoever, escorts who will put up with anything a hobbyist dishes out to them and refuse to make a fuss! Pathetic, absolutely pathetic behavior from an escort!  What a horrifying message for any escort to be sending to hobbyists... no matter how badly you guys beat the shit of us, it's ok, don't worry about it, we won't make a fuss because we're just escorts and we expect to have the shit beaten out of us every once in a while. O M F G!

Suzanne in San  Diego

I have back channeled the information and made it known instead of keeping it in the dark that this exists.  i am sure from this post that you are the one that sent me the nasty hate mail that I received today.  I am trying to move past this as I have to move ahead now and move on with my life and recover.  If I am low caliber is your opinion and until you are in my shoes you need to get a life.  I have never encountered but one bad experience in the Hobby and this is it.  Here is the e-mail I received this morning which if you compare it to suzannes post I am sure you all can se the similiarities.  

Subject line:  You are a DISGUSTING EXCUSE FOR AN ESCORT

Don't bother touring in the US again.  After your pathetic
behavior...'don't make a fuss about it for fear of
repercussions/retaliation' over your recent assault in TC, you are
NOT welcome here again!  A wimpy assed escort like you is a serious
danger and a serious threat to each and every escort in the US.  
The message you are sending, that it's ok for a hobbyist to beat
the shit out of an escort with no fear of retaliation is a
nightmare for each and every one of us in the US who possesses
every the smallest amount of self-esteem.  Take your 'invitation to
be beaten to death' behavior elsewhere!!  Do us a HUGE FUCKING
FAVOR, YOU STUPID BITCH!!

The hostility is amazing as well as the similiarity in her post here of course she did not use her e-mail address and hid behind an alias e-mail but Ip's are amazing when you know how to check them.

Yes I asked TER to pull the post as I beleive some things are better b/c'ed and it was and having to relive somethings everytime I opened the computer was not aiding in my healing process emotionally so that I can proceed and move ahead and heal.  I hope you get the psychiatric help you so need suzanne.


Gemini

Suzanne,

Freedom of speech, what a great idea and what a great country we live in that permits such unrestrained use of this most fundamental of our basic freedoms that most of us take for granted, a Constitutional Right that our forefathers fought and died for. I would defend your right to say or write anything that is permitted free speech. HOWEVER, it is difficult for me to recall a more vicious or mean spirited attack on someone who was the unsuspecting victim of a vicious and unprovoked assault that could have caused her death. Apparently, you suffer from so much self-loathing and anger that you are reduced to maligning the victim rather than directing your anger at the beast/perpetrator of this outrage. What a pathetic exercize of freedom of speech. What a sad and pathetic person you must be.I feel sorry for you that you must go through life with this much self hatred to carry around. It must be a very heavy burdon.

I am very sorry for you Gemini. Hope you are recovering. I saw him too. ONCE! Once and only once!! What a BIG BULLY! Dangerous. Stay away ladies!!! Utah

If you'd ever met or chatted with Gem you'd know how far off base you are with your comments. Just because she chose to deal with this horrible experience in a professional manner (i.e. back-channeling) it should not be taken as a sign of weakness. Her choice in how to handle all of this is in no way representative of why she was assaulted. Low caliber? Are you kidding? She's not the one rubbing salt in the wound. She's not the one slinging insults. If anyone has displayed pathetic and low caliber behavior.... hmmmm.....