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I beg to differ on this one
Tiger St. Clair See my TER Reviews 11925 reads
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If a hobbiest doesn't ask ... then he doesn't get.. so don't bash a hobbiest for asking ... BECAUSE.. depending on the chemistry.. he might be given the world on a silver platter... so I beg to differ.. I think they should ask away... a provider always has the right to refuse. Of course asking in a proper way always helps ... so be considerate and respectful clients when asking for a special favor.

As for over staying the time.. well come on... the experienced girls know how to handle the session... pacing the session is an art so that no one should feel rushed.  Guy's it is a friendly reminder to watch your time as well don't over stay your welcome, but girls have just as much responsiblity or more in my opinion to be keeping track of time, since they are the the business owners, their time is up to them to keep track of.

I also have talked with many of the girls.. a few have trouble with time.. but it all gets down to sometimes they are being TOO NICE, and eventually the financial side sorts the problem out.  Guy's might never get another appointment with the lovely lady and the girls learn a valuable lesson in economics.

Judge Wapner14007 reads

I've talked to a couple providers lately who are getting tired of hobbyists who don't pay for the time and ask for things the provider doesn't do.  Given the advent of the Internet it's easy to find out which providers do what you want and at what price.  If you can't read the section of the reviews that says what providers will and won't do, it's worth a few bucks to get a membership.  Everyone will have a better time.  Just a thought.

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If a hobbiest doesn't ask ... then he doesn't get.. so don't bash a hobbiest for asking ... BECAUSE.. depending on the chemistry.. he might be given the world on a silver platter... so I beg to differ.. I think they should ask away... a provider always has the right to refuse. Of course asking in a proper way always helps ... so be considerate and respectful clients when asking for a special favor.

As for over staying the time.. well come on... the experienced girls know how to handle the session... pacing the session is an art so that no one should feel rushed.  Guy's it is a friendly reminder to watch your time as well don't over stay your welcome, but girls have just as much responsiblity or more in my opinion to be keeping track of time, since they are the the business owners, their time is up to them to keep track of.

I also have talked with many of the girls.. a few have trouble with time.. but it all gets down to sometimes they are being TOO NICE, and eventually the financial side sorts the problem out.  Guy's might never get another appointment with the lovely lady and the girls learn a valuable lesson in economics.

Judge Wapner13622 reads

I felt my other post might appear a little one sided so I thought I'd post one for hobbyists too.  It's wonderful to get a perspective from a provider that is professional and well balanced.  Thanks.  That's the kind of attitude that makes this hobby so much fun.

I think the key to "asking away" is all in how you ask.  Part of the job of a good salesman is to ask the customer for their business in a way that makes the customer feel bad about saying no and feel good about saying yes...  This approach DOES NOT work with a provider.

Every provider has her own unique comfort zone, her own limits.  Find the right time and the right way to ask that makes it very comfortable to say no.  When you ask in the genuine interest of learning more about her wishes and limits, no request is inappropriate.  If you ask in a way that makes her feel like she has to be the lone defender of her limits (against your encroachment), then it's another story entirely.

When I first started, I felt uncomfortable asking for things.  More recently, I've mustered up the courage to "ask away" more often, and have gotten the "silver platter" that Tiger referred to.  (I had the priviledge of meeting Tiger some time ago, and unfortunately, it was before I got this new-found courage.)  Each session I find myself being more and more assertive in communicating, and the results have been amazing.  Of course, now I have to go back and re-visit those I saw before, and see what silver platters I missed out on!

There's one thing that turned out to be very different than what I expected when I first got involved in this, and this has made it easier to be more assertive.  I've been really overwhelmed by how personally engaged the providers I've seen are, and how genuine their interest in my satisfaction has been.  And I really meant to use the term overwhelmed.  One could certainly accuse them of being good actors and good marketers.  But go see Tiger, or any one of the great gals that frequents this board, and ask yourself if it's just a marketing ploy.

As for Tiger's thoughts on time enforcement, I prefer that the provider just be open and direct.  If things are going great and you feel like running over with no additional charges, she should just say so.  If more time is available for "a tip", that can be said without it making it sound like an upcharge game.  If time will be up on the hour, say that too.  I've gotten that "it's okay to stay for a while" signal but left because I didn't know if there was a $ expectation associated with it.

I've never felt rushed just because a provider hinted that the time was nearing.  The times I've felt rushed are when things start out slow, so that by the time things really get going, it's half way into the time, and the clock's running out.  The most awkward time for me personally is when I feel like I'm being pushy to move from small talk to getting things going.

I agree with your post especially about how to delivery the request. Wonderful pointers that needed to be said to new clients and older ones that have not been satisfied.  We all need reminders on Technique....  But please don't tease me ... let me know who you are.. I have a great memory and so email me. Tiggggerrrr is waiting!

You, pleading not to be teased?  An interesting turning of the table...

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