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smilin6969 40 Reviews 677 reads
posted
1 / 14

I don't think anyone does this without getting attached in one way or another. I think communication is a key component though. As long as you communicate both ways, then all parties can keep themselves in check. I can't do this without getting attached. There's no way I could please a woman like I do without a connection. :)
But there are boundaries and you just need to respect them.

turboted 2 Reviews 593 reads
posted
2 / 14

The attachment concern has almost always been handled in a far better manner by providers.

In any event, attachment reaches to the very core of the hobby. Attachment (i.e., you have been hooked and become a regular client) is a desired state for providers. An attached state reduces the risk of continually meeting new clients, along with supplying a steady stream of income. However, out-of-bounds emotional attachment is a threat that must be managed by both the provider and hobbyist.

The "best" advice I read as a beginning hobbyist for managing attachment is to visit with other providers after meeting your first provider (i.e., do not immediately repeat).

My "best" advice is to steer your spending habits toward visiting providers. If a specific provider only visits the area every few months or once a year, then it is far easier to create a distance in your thoughts and actions.

Finally, if attachment is created in sessions by providers, then they have probably done their job (e.g., the girlfriend experience) at a very high level. The hobbyist must return to reality as soon as the door closes at the end of the session.

vorlon 119 Reviews 558 reads
posted
3 / 14

Escorts are not escorting because they are looking for an SO.  Yes, it does happen and once in a while it actually works out but most of the time it is just asking for trouble for one or both of you.  If you get attached to someone then as I see it you have three basic choices

1)  Stop seeing her if you can't control yourself
2)  Continue seeing her but keep telling yourself that this is as far as it goes.  Enjoy it for what it is if you can handle that.
3)  Try and make a relationship out of it.  Best be prepared for that option to fail and perhaps spectacularly so.

cameltoelover 540 reads
posted
4 / 14

It's natural to get attached.  My experience is that 'an outside the hobby' relationship between client and provider has natural obstacles that are difficult to overcome.  The most obvious is that physical intimacy is preceding emotional intimacy in most cases.  Obviously, that's the opposite of what occurs in most romantic relationships.  For me, that's a difficult one to get wrapped around.  You'll meet some amazing women in this hobby, but chalk those up to, "If only, I'd met her under different circumstances."  That's my 2 cents.

missleah09 See my TER Reviews 769 reads
posted
5 / 14

I have made several "attachments" in this world. No 'I love you and want to marry you' type of attachments, but many 'you are an amazing person and I care about you and your well-being'. I even have some friends that I met in this world that have remained my friends in the real world while I was dealing with my life. On the flip side, I have encountered the cool guy turned stalker that had no respect for my boundaries--not normal. Communication is key.  

I also, think that all of the above posts are accurate, and every "attachment" is different and how people handle them are different. Just have to find what works for you.    

Good Luck!!

fearlessfury 533 reads
posted
6 / 14

Really great advice from everyone it all rings true.

OmegaZap 7 Reviews 497 reads
posted
7 / 14

I suspect you're learning the lesson I first learned about 15 years ago...  As I have mentioned in many a post over the years, I came into this expecting something different...  Yes, erotic and fun, but still, more of a business transaction at the core.  I completely underestimated how personal, how sensual, how connected it could be.

I think you really need to look in the mirror and be honest with yourself.  If you are the kind of guy who can just enjoy it for what it is, if you can bask in the warmth and the connection, then seek out those providers.  There are some here for whom this is a deep expression of their real self, not a character they are playing.  Their need to show you care and affection is a genuine need.   There really is an element of attachment, and for that hour or two you're together, they really do become very deeply connected to you, and they want to love on you just as much emotionally as they do physically.

But that assumes you can handle it, that you can love and be loved without the need to possess, to "have."  Not everyone is cut out for that, and if you are not...  be honest with yourself, and don't put yourself in situations that will turn out to be awkward for her, and painful for you.  You can look at reviews and intentionally seek out providers that still have great reviews, but aren't the kind of loving, adoring GFE provider that's likely to get you into trouble.  There are some great providers out there that get really good reviews for being acrobatic, skilled "technicians", but don't connect with you on the same emotional level that others do.

The key is to just be completely, utterly honest with yourself, and not go looking for something that isn't right for you.  In all things in life--relationships, jobs, brand of cars, whatever, we are often choose things with an incomplete understanding of ourselves.  One of the hard things in life is to recognize when we have something that was not meant for us, and let go of it gracefully.  In this hobby, you have to be able to let go gracefully, or it's not the right hobby for you.

brilove See my TER Reviews 574 reads
posted
8 / 14

Had this discussion the other day with some one ... what comes first? Times have changed ... Emotional used to proceed sexual but IMO its not always like that anymore however true dating within the hobby would have several obstacles to overcome and deal with.

Mindyzurgirl See my TER Reviews 627 reads
posted
9 / 14

Accurate this response is, I thought I could be good with putting how I think into words, but you managed to say it so perfectly for me especially these: "There are some here for whom this IS a deep expression of their real self, not a character they are playing. Their need to show you care and affection is a genuine need."
And: "If you are the kind of guy who can just enjoy it for what it is" "that you can love and be loved without the need to possess, to "have."  
       I find so many people in real world life, & sometimes even hobby-world that do equate love and affection with possession, this is the key...in what way do you care for ( or love or luv) this is so important!  
You can make any connection you want as long as you communicate & understand boundaries. That's how I feel and thanks  
So much Omega for 'sayin it like it is. ;)  

Posted By: OmegaZap
I suspect you're learning the lesson I first learned about 15 years ago...  As I have mentioned in many a post over the years, I came into this expecting something different...  Yes, erotic and fun, but still, more of a business transaction at the core.  I completely underestimated how personal, how sensual, how connected it could be.  
   
 I think you really need to look in the mirror and be honest with yourself.  If you are the kind of guy who can just enjoy it for what it is, if you can bask in the warmth and the connection, then seek out those providers.  There are some here for whom this is a deep expression of their real self, not a character they are playing.  Their need to show you care and affection is a genuine need.   There really is an element of attachment, and for that hour or two you're together, they really do become very deeply connected to you, and they want to love on you just as much emotionally as they do physically.  
   
 But that assumes you can handle it, that you can love and be loved without the need to possess, to "have."  Not everyone is cut out for that, and if you are not...  be honest with yourself, and don't put yourself in situations that will turn out to be awkward for her, and painful for you.  You can look at reviews and intentionally seek out providers that still have great reviews, but aren't the kind of loving, adoring GFE provider that's likely to get you into trouble.  There are some great providers out there that get really good reviews for being acrobatic, skilled "technicians", but don't connect with you on the same emotional level that others do.  
   
 The key is to just be completely, utterly honest with yourself, and not go looking for something that isn't right for you.  In all things in life--relationships, jobs, brand of cars, whatever, we are often choose things with an incomplete understanding of ourselves.  One of the hard things in life is to recognize when we have something that was not meant for us, and let go of it gracefully.  In this hobby, you have to be able to let go gracefully, or it's not the right hobby for you.

minn4evr 42 Reviews 494 reads
posted
10 / 14

... here's how I go about achieving that goal.  

I usually enjoy the second, third, fourth visit with a lady more than the first. Early on, I thought I'd find one ATF and just see her. But by the third or fourth time I had focused on a single lady it was too easy to start imagining something was happening that really wasn't. And frankly, having to periodically kick my own ass and tell myself to get real and quit dreaming, just wasn't that much fun.  

So now I have a list of 5 or 6 ladies that I see in a sort of informal rotation, with occasional forays to meet someone new. It means there is almost always a couple months between visits with a particular lady, which allows time for that warm glow to fade and a touch of clarity to return. Works for me. We are lucky in the Twin Cities to have a goodly number of established, reliable, and desirable options to satisfy almost any preference.

masonseth69 3 Reviews 486 reads
posted
11 / 14

When I first started all this almost a year ago, I never even considered the possibility of becoming emotionally attached to a provider.  I laugh when I look back on how I thought all this would go down.... I envisioned seeing someone 4 times a year for 1 hour per session.  Wow... I fricking blew that plan out of the water.  

The first person I saw changed my perception of the hobby rather quickly as we became friends and even though I don't see her in that capacity any more, we still stay close and talk almost every day.  This is all well and good because it was easy to leave it at a friendship as we are very different people and I never felt I wanted anything more from our arrangement.

Fast forward to now.  I see someone I truly care about and I think of her as the amazing, wonderful person she is first, and as a provider second.  That's probably not wise, but I can't help it.  I can find myself struggling with the emotional connection thing quite a bit, especially after spending a significant amount of time together and having to say goodbye until the next time we are together.

I've talked to her about this a little bit, which helps.  I also try to separate the feelings I have for her from what she represents in my life.  Quite unexpectedly, the hobby turned from a sexual outlet to being able to time share certain parts of my life with someone that I simply enjoy being around.  

I guess I've had enough time to figure out why I feel the way I do.  As such, keeping a handle on the situation has become manageable.  But it's still not easy for me.  I keep telling myself that if I want something permanent and real, I need to cowboy up and divorce my wife and start dating.    .... or hire a hitman... JUST KIDDING NSA!!!!

crushedflowers 7 Reviews 487 reads
posted
12 / 14

Because my ATF (Sweet Leah) had to leave the business, due to some idiot who didn't understand where the boundaries are.

Leah, if you're reading this, you're sorely missed and would love to see you UTR if you're working still. I know you liked the way I spoke... there is a clue in this ;)

Jackieblu See my TER Reviews 573 reads
posted
13 / 14

Great answers Leah, yours pretty much describes how I feel.  As you gain experience as a provider you also can tell when it may be inappropriate and what actions to take.  With clients I've been known to say OMG I love how you do that, not gonna stop, because I really do haha.  Nice thread.

fearlessfury 406 reads
posted
14 / 14

You are correct as Ed McMann use to say and that is very very good advice . It may be harder for some of us to do that because it is painful to let go of someone we care about deeply.I guess it's easier for providers I mean all they have to do is put up an add and there phone rings of the hook with guys who want to fuck them and then they get paid very well and it is a real boost for there who to boot.Guys on the other hand probably hand over a day's pay have great time with a woman who knows how to satisfy.The provider does this for a living and if your clean safe and respectful she probably would like for you to become a regular less problems for her and slot of upside.Guys get hooked continue on they start to feel they are no longer a face in a crowd and it starts to build there ego.The downside comes in if you start to realize that you are a face in the crowd then your ego is deflated along with your pocket book and its all just smoke and mirrors.If your extremely lucky you may find a SO but it is hard to know if she's genuine as long as there's the money thing.What do you do that's the tough part no easy choices here for us guys.I will say no matter what kind of relation ship you have with a women it costs you you'll find that out if you go through a divorce or even have daughter lol men traditionally are naturally providers of this and women love to b spoiled by a man so that's ok I guess. The problem arises if a guy feel your just being taken advantage of and she has 5 or ten guys just like you especially if you see an add from her stating looking for regulars lol then you are a just a interchangeable face in a crowd. Then you have a very tough decision to make.I try and keep a positive attitude and roll with the punches through life cause I hate it when negativity rears its ugly head, when that happens I developed a fuck it attitude usually get ripped for awhile cause usually when the smoke clears I feel okay I'm just a fool and its easier to just turn the page and put it behind me and hope my karma will lead to somethin good like maybe a hot babe who loves having sex and wants to take of me so if your out there baby drop me line lol!!

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