Reporting is today's statribune.com. A quote from the article.  Do all your fuckings now before they reboot undercover investigations again.

"On Wednesday, Minneapolis police said the department has discontinued such undercover investigations pending a full review of its policies. The department declined to comment on the specific cases. None of the three officers involved in the cases is under internal investigation

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The case referenced involved 3 cases dismissed against female suspects at massage parlors where undercover Minneapolis police officers had improper sexual contact.  

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MPD has a long history of gong to far with a lot of their "undercover" stings. When will they actually follow the law and do it the right way if they insist on doing them at all. The department as a whole thinks they are above the law period in everything they do.

The notoriety this story will get will no doubt put more pressure on the police to enforce the new massage licensure rules

I do not believe the article for one split second that they are waiting on investigations at all.  I do believe that trigger got pulled not long ago and it is by no means being put on any pause whatsoever.  There is paranoia and then there is healthy paranoia and then there are OKAY's and then there are those who have been WHITELISTED.

If you know a provider that is well established and is not "transitional" and you've been enjoying this hobby for a while, do ask for a whitelist!  That is a protection that actually means something for us all.  

Since September of 2014 I've been mainly seeing repeat clients and now it has paired down to repeat, those with healthy whtielists, those who are direct referrals from other awesome and trusted providers, or those withe most awesome healthy list of OKAY's from P411.  Anything less for me feels too cavalier moving forward as I only see very few people in a week now.  

In New York City that community thrives and lives by WHITELISTS or the equivalant.  Take a look!!!!  Puruse over there and see for yourself!  NY city reviewers have how many WHITELISTS?   A ton!  

It is my opinion that this is one good habit to pick up here starting yesterday.  Those of you here in MN with a healthy WHITELIST already.... isn't it just soooooooooooooooo  nice!!!!!!!    Aaaaaahhhh.  And those of you on P411 with a healthy OKAY list....   isn't it just soooooooooooooo nice!!!!!!!   Aaaaaah.   I tell you, nothing for me is so sexy as a healthy WHITELIST &/OR OKAY list behind your name!    

 
And if there is a Judas amongst us... well.... Talon, you know a Judas, don't you!?  You've seen the raids.  Cheap places and Agencies are easier targets.... who wants to be on their list when there is a bust?  

I'd not take anything for granted at all today.  Super Bowl might be three years away but Hennepin county is going to clean up the easy targets and then the targets that motivate them to chase the target down... it's already started some weeks ago and they're not busting only, their doing their research.  

See clients and see providers that give a real darn about their privacy & safety.  Think about it.  

If we all give a shit... we'd all start asking for whitelists and only give it to established clients, not newbies that might be undercover.  

Anyone whose seen me can get a white list.  Just email me.  Tell me when you saw me.  I will look it up and do it.     And start asking the same of those you've seen that can easily take care of that for you!

Have your TER ID and use your email you use with TER.....  don't allow anyone who is LE pretend to be someone else's TER ID... the email has to HAS TO has to match!!!!!!!     NEVER GIVE A WHITELIST if the email does not match.  Make sure it matches the emails you've had with that client in the past.  Those who only do phone numbers.... IDK how that would work.  Get an email folks and preferably with Hushmail and not yahoo, gmail, hotmail that all hand over records with no red tape in a heartbeat.  Hushmail is Canadian and not as likely to hand it over.... or some other out of country email service.  

Oh, and finally, anyone using their real name on their email in any way... get rid of THAT!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 
 

Mr. T is dead wrong.  The article makes no reference to stings against men which are presumably still on.  Anything out of Minneapolis still is full go.  If you believe the Strib front page is up to date on LE policy/tactics, you are as dumb as Mr. T (whose carelessly hidden identity took me 20 minutes to crack from a cold start--although I would never never reveal it.)

Are you implying you did some research and you know Talon's personal info?

You are 100% right fucking on with this post.

We have both been around long enough to know better dont we wong

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I simply applied to him the same techniques that you would use to verify any provider and that providers use to check out clients.
T, as Elan points out, has outed several providers and spas.  I would never misuse verification procedures in that way: not against T, not against any other hobbyist, and not against any provider.  That would be completely wrong as we are seeing in the blood sport that is playing out on the Ashley hack

a puritan culture tends to make the worst of it.  

Ashley could have been all of us.  This board is not that technologically special.

Anybody who thinks this site could not be hacked is deluded.
Anybody who can not afford the personal costs of having it hacked should close and delete their account now.

I am staying

Oh, I don't know if T has been Judas himself.   I didn't say that.

But he knows of Judases.  

The main point is, Whitelisting for existing and long term clients is a very good idea to do!!!!  A great idea to make the habit of asking for it.

If any provider does not know how to do it, just PM me.... and do remember to make certain that the email address is identical to the one that the client uses to have seen you!  (this prevents anyone getting whitelisted that shouldn't be on accident.  Some undercover person can ask to be whitelisted and pull off any old TER ID.  So, use email that matches his visit!!!!!!

Pardon me if I'm wrong...but you need to check your facts.  Show me the post where Talon or anyone else specifically outed someone involved in this game.  If you are talking about the bank bullshit that isn't what I'm talking about.  That's a different issue.  What I have a problem with is you poking your nose into either a reviewer or a provider's private life.  If you feel the need to do it in private go for it.  Get your jollies and keep it to yourself.  If you feel the need to say in a post you know someone's personal info but you won't divulge it that I have a huge fucking problem with.  That's a threat to US all.  If you think you can take a poke at someone just because you don't like what they say think again because if you ask me you crossed a line.  Just think about how someone can get to you before you start slinging mud publicly.  I could give a shit about Talon but you are going down a bad road my friend.

a hobby email, no real info into TER.. and you're good!    
Whitelists and reviews and sending money orders or using Prepay cards, etc..... that is  
the way to go!  Just never use your real name or real email in any form.

Again, use an international email system like hushmail....    

This all makes it that much better... so what if Donald Duck is writing reviews.  This is all fiction here on TER   Tragedy/Comedy/Drama   So, keep it all fictional.

P411 is hackable but they destroy all info once verified.  Again, use international email company, pay without personal CC.

Awesome!!!!

I don't see you saying he outed providers and spas.  Can you weigh in to either clarify my clouded mind or disprove Pimp's assertion?

And see we can agree on at least one thing.  

... I think he plays dumb.   Young tike, but sharper than he let's on, on TER anyway.

He said he figured it out easily enough but won't out him.

Totally agree with you here wrong.We all have our disagreements on here but this has crossed the line.

...in one of his posts (very likely deleted I'm sure) where the extremely insecure Talon in his continuing efforts to validate himself as someone worthy, bragged about being FB friends IRL with his ATF Provider. This woman obviously either accidentally friended Talon or just did so out of pure pity. We all know that Talon has absolutely no discretion in keeping one's private life separate from the Hobby life or bringing private citizens into this discussion board. Pimpernel, knowing who Talon's ATF is, is also aware of this Provider's FB identity, for whatever reason. Looking at her FB friends listings, Pimpernel was able to determine Talon's civvie identity. I'd be surprised to learn that inadvertently running across a Provider's FB page and identity is a rare occurrence for a Hobbyist. Pimpernel mentioned he was aware of Talon's civvie identity, Talon didn't deny it and Pimpernel states he will not reveal it to anyone else but keep it to himself. I don't feel Pimpernel has done anyone any harm.

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But let's say it isn't a veiled threat (Pimp would have to chime in and weigh in on that) how would any of us like someone publicly stating they poked around the internet and came across our real info.  If it were a provider I think a lot of you would feel a weeeeee bit different.  Oh but he'll never tell a soul....or how would you feel about someone saying they have the incall address of all 10 of the top providers in MN saved on my hobby phone....but I'll never tell....get my drift now?  I think there are some places, albeit few, that someone on this board m or f shouldn't go.  Mind your own fucking business when it comes to people's personal info.  If they wanted you to know they would give it to you.  Just because you don't like Talon or you don't like me or you don't like whoever it's bad for business for ALL of us.  That sir, is my point.

...Talon has demonstrated over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that he has NO respect for the personal information of Providers or Hobbyists on this board. Did you miss the recent post of his where he outed personal info about a local Hobbyist??!! WTF??!! Are you so oblivious??!! Why the fuck are you defending Talon?! Nothing good will come of this and you will certainly only lose credibility. Talon has already announced that he will, whenever given the opportunity, out personal information about a Provider or a Hobbyist. He is uncouth, lacks discretion and has always represented and bragged about himself as being a complete douchebag and clear and present danger to the safety of all of us on this board. But you choose to support him yet villify Pimpernel who has never demonstrated any behaviours to the contrary. ... SMH...   SMH  

If what you say is true do me the professional respect and link some posts so I can catch up.  I could have missed some shit especially if that outing post was taken down.  As far as my credibility I could give a flying fuck less.  I am fine with everything I have ever posted and everything that I have ever said in reviews.  It's all true to me and not bought, sold, bartered like a lot of others.  Please fill me in cause yes, if Talon said somewhere he would out anyone I will call him out too.  As far as Pimpernel.  I said my piece and I think he is no better than Talon if what you say is true.  Looking forward to you giving me the full picture as I am evidently....clueless by my own admission.  Help an obvious fucktard will ya genius?

Damnit why am I agreeing with you again?? LOL

Both are a danger to all if they continue down the road that they have decided to drive down. They could both be loose cannons and bad for all of us.

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