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loveyourtouch 147 reads
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1 / 46

Though I am just a massage guy in this hobby, I certainly understand (and appreciate) the need, desire, and demand for protection.  You are completely right: you have no idea how many others he has had unprotected sex with (either paid or unpaid).   As I write this, he rated you 7/7.  From what I can see on the various websites, I think I'd have to rate you at least an 8, and it would likely only go up after seeing you in person.

Glad you stuck with "no."  Play it safe.  Gotta look out for yourself in this hobby.  We're all just one "Oooops" away from "Oh, fuck!"

Best wishes!

mrhuck 15 Reviews 122 reads
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2 / 46

...for not being afraid to post the TER screen name of this guy, I hope many other providers become aware of this guy & turn him away to keep us all safer.

knotsaway 38 Reviews 130 reads
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3 / 46

... I bet we'd see far fewer dishonest reviews like this one.  

And another thing this asshat did that's inexcusable is write the review to make it unclear as to whether a cover was used.  Thanks for exposing him for what he is to this community.

-- Modified on 6/24/2017 10:49:34 PM

vorlon 119 Reviews 175 reads
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4 / 46

I remember reading it when it first came out and thought it odd because it was so different from your other reviews.  Now thought it appears to abruptly end;  Now, the way it reads, it is as though it has been cutoff midway through the description.

Audrey, do you by any chance have any thing written from this guy that supports what you say?  I know it is a long shot but If so, you might have grounds to have the review pulled.

puck3434 19 Reviews 140 reads
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5 / 46

That is a very level headed response Audrey it is obvious you have a lot of tact and class.For the life of me I don't know how anyone would not play safe in the hobby these guys are crazy!!Good for you for stating your case.I would actually be concerned if a lady didn't ask me to be safe.I thought something was real fishy when I saw your scores this explains it.Have nice day!!

Hersh54 271 Reviews 141 reads
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6 / 46

Well said Audrey and thank you for trying to keep the hobby safe for all of us.

GroinGravy 142 reads
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7 / 46

I believe the review right before this guy's review read the same way.

Posted By: knotsaway
Re: If more providers would do what you did here...
... I bet we'd see far fewer dishonest reviews like this one.    
   
 And another thing this asshat did that's inexcusable is write the review to make it unclear as to whether a cover was used.  Thanks for exposing him for what he is to this community.  

-- Modified on 6/24/2017 10:49:34 PM

loveyourtouch 129 reads
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8 / 46

To be sure...  there are a few women who not only allow BB but will suggest it as an upgraded service.  There have been posts about that here over the years.

Just be safe!

belindabell See my TER Reviews 117 reads
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9 / 46

It was a big no-no that could get the post removed and the provider moderated. It was considered a  
hobbyist's board so you didn't dare say anything negative about them.  Glad to see that's changing
and providers have an opportunity in exposing the fucknuts.

Jibberjabber727 133 reads
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10 / 46

Good point.  Hopefully that previous reviewer, who my brief survey indicates will mention the type of protection used, will chime in as to whether that was a mistake.  He and lennzi both have many whitelists --and one of those for the previous reviewer is AM herself-- and perhaps lennzi read it that way too and thought he'd see if he could get in on that.  At least we can hope AM can chime in and say the previous reviewer also neglected to mention the protection used.   This story has many angles!

knotsaway 38 Reviews 221 reads
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12 / 46

... but not respecting "No" and retaliating for the turn-down with a dishonest review, or in some other way, is another thing entirely.  

yersoothsayer 151 reads
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13 / 46

If you know, name those providers, I sure don't want to be with them.

vorlon 119 Reviews 174 reads
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15 / 46

TER used to not allow mention of BBFS in reviews but the review doesn't say BBFS happened so it probably would have passed muster in the old days as well.

vorlon 119 Reviews 182 reads
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16 / 46

With TER, you pretty much have to provide definitive proof.

vorlon 119 Reviews 139 reads
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17 / 46

It's easy to see clients and providers who get pissed off at someone falsely accusing them of BBFS.

bluenorthMN 189 reads
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18 / 46

Even with protection you'd still get STD,   BBBJ & DFK could potentially expose you to health risks as well.  You might want to consider going back to teaching or try cooking. No one likes drama queen. Suck it up and move on. He was merely asking and he didn't force it on you, did he???  Hate to see you end up in the same fate as your friend HH. Belinda or Vorlon can explain what happen.

GroinGravy 135 reads
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19 / 46

The TER review dept. use to add "(cover)" in the review at the appropriate spot if I remember.

Posted By: vorlon
Re: TER is to blame.  Years ago they did not allow that type of review.  Hence now their review dept
TER used to not allow mention of BBFS in reviews but the review doesn't say BBFS happened so it probably would have passed muster in the old days as well.

knotsaway 38 Reviews 191 reads
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21 / 46

No, it wasn't rape, thank God. But you don't seem to get, or care, that a revenge review isn't something a provider should have to just "suck up and move on" from.

Posted By: bluenorthMN
Re: If you want it safe, you're probably in the wrong profession.
Even with protection you'd still get STD,   BBBJ & DFK could potentially expose you to health risks as well.  You might want to consider going back to teaching or try cooking. No one likes drama queen. Suck it up and move on. He was merely asking and he didn't force it on you, did he???  Hate to see you end up in the same fate as your friend HH. Belinda or Vorlon can explain what happen.

IJMiggs 169 reads
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22 / 46

As someone who loves to push the limit with this hobby and also a medical professional, I will say you have a much higher risk of acquiring an STD via DATY versus BBFS (non-anal).  

That said, I don't think you have the right to tell the public forum that Lenzi requested BBFS since he did not mention this in the review.  IMO, I think you should've simply said "I don't do bareback" and then let Lenzi blow his load inside you wearing a condom.

-- Modified on 6/25/2017 11:26:49 PM

vorlon 119 Reviews 174 reads
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23 / 46

Some years ago, I had a review where I did not specifically mention the use of a cover (one was used) and had someone PM me asking if it was a BBFS session.  At least that time TER didn't add anything; I contacted TER myself and explained the situation, asking to edit the review to make clear that a cover was used.  They let me edit it.

vorlon 119 Reviews 152 reads
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24 / 46

I remember that situation well.  I don't see this one as being similar at all.

AbbiMinx See my TER Reviews 122 reads
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25 / 46

Hi! Since you're a medical professional, could you explain to me how one is more at risk from DATY than BBFS?

Jibberjabber727 109 reads
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26 / 46

To be clear, the originally published review (before being edited into its current form) stated that she simply refused to proceed without explaining why she refused.  That made it seem like she was wacko. I don't think she is wacko or unreasonable for refusing to proceed for her stated reason.  It seems like her account was accurate and that lennzi decided to trash her for her decision.   You may not be alone though, as lennzi appears to be keeping the majority of his white lists so all those ladies may agree that lennzi acted reasonably.  

crsm27 32 Reviews 210 reads
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27 / 46

I for one and many others think BBCFS is not the norm... I personally wouldn't see a provider if they did not use protection.  

Everyone needs to stay safe out there.

thanks u Audrey for bringing all of this to our attention.

puck3434 19 Reviews 188 reads
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28 / 46

Wow bluenorth you arent very smart are you??Why isn't it ok for her to stand up for herself??I think she has every right to do so.I have gotten to know many girls over the years and revenge reviews are childish and can often cause safety issues with the ladies.And why compare her to HH??You obviously have a vendetta somewhere.I think you should be the one who moves along loser....

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 144 reads
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31 / 46

....this movie is about 10 yrs of my time though.
I'm guessing this is where a lot of Pootie Tang came from (2001).

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 98 reads
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Tippe 41 Reviews 140 reads
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34 / 46

I certainly hope you compensated the person for cutting time short. It was uncalled for unless he insisted on bareback, imo.

Your paranoia with STD is a bit exaggerated. You're already high risk as a participant of hobbying; every exposure to someone new is an increased risk simply because you don't know their true status. Unless you know for a fact this person is actually infected with something, the assumed risk isn't different than any other stranger you've been with whether they care to admit using protection or not. A barrier isn't going to mitigate much of that, a few types of STD can transmit even with protection. And don't forget the other activities you perform that doesn't involve protection. I can assume your worry is focused on HIV with regards to barebacking. I won't go into details but it's incredibly difficult to catch through 'heterosexual sex', with or without protection; look at the stats or talk with any professional healthcare provider.

Lets not even pretend barebacking doesn't happen. There's an entire thread dedicated to it on the web. You'll eventually run into these people whether you like it or not. Next time, just politely decline and move on. If that's not good enough, explicitly spell out the consequences for such a request in your ad. And quite frankly you're not really in a position to judge anyone on what they want out of this hobby.

As for the skewed review, don't fret over it. It may raise a red flag but most of aren't going to bet on that one review not to see you. I know you want to be in the 'right' but sometimes these types of problem can be avoided by simply being professional about it.

norskman 37 Reviews 108 reads
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35 / 46

No provider should need to post in their ad that they don't allow bareback full service.  In this day and age, anyone -- whether hobbyist or casual sex -- who has unprotected sex with a stranger is a fool putting both themselves and their partner at risk.  "Paranoia with STD" is a good thing for anyone: provider, hobbiyist, or otherwise.  And one should look with a leary eye at anyone who disrespects their own safety as well as their partner's.  

You "assume" her worry is HIV?  There are many STDs that are more likely to be transmitted during unprotected vaginial sex.  At the same time, you assume what her concerns are, and then turn around and criticize her for not being in a position to judge others?  Better look in the mirror, pal. You're not in a position to judge her.

Audrey, well done, handled with class, and a good reminder to all of us in the community.  

AbbiMinx See my TER Reviews 135 reads
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36 / 46

Posted By: Tippe
Re: Your paranoia with STD is a bit exaggerated. You're already high risk as a participant of hobbying; every exposure to someone new is an increased risk simply because you don't know their true status.
1) this makes my head hurt. If I'm at a high risk of an STI already by being in the hobby, how exactly is my "paranoia" with STIs exaggerated?  

2) "every exposure to someone new is an increased risk simply because you don't know their true status" EXACTLY. Which is why I, along with some other ladies I know, just assume a client doesn't know their own status.  

3) the comment about risk being similar to "any other stranger" Is redundant; clients, until I've met them are strangers. If I do have sex with someone outside the hobby, I use the same care and protection I do with clients.  

4) in regards to HIV transmission with unprotected penis in vagina sex (I'm assuming that's what you meant by "heterosexual sex" as I know many cis-straight folks who do anal) you are leaving out important risk-changing info, such as recent infection and viral load.  
"One such factor [of transmission] is acute infection, the period of six to 12 weeks after contracting the virus. At this time, viral load skyrockets, increasing a person's infectiousness by as much as 26 times (the same thing as saying “26-fold”). So right there, the per-act risk of receptive vaginal transmission jumps from 1 out of 1,250 exposures to 1 out of 50 exposures, and the risk of receptive anal sex goes from 1 out of 70 to higher than 1 out of 3. It's also important to realize that during acute infection, the immune system has not yet created the antibodies that lower viral load, at least for a few years. HIV tests that rely on antibodies may give a false negative reading during an acute infection, also known as the “window period.” "  

5) yes, it's possible to be infected with STIs while having protected penis in vagina sex, from bbbjs, for example. Any careful provider knows to get tested. We know to have our throats swabbed. You talk about risk as if it's "high risk" or "no risk", completely leaving out reduced risk.  

6) of course barebacking happens. So do STIs.  

The TL;DR version: it's not about "risk" vs "no risk". It's about protecting yourself and clients *as best you can* within the industry and with the acts you choose to participate in.

vorlon 119 Reviews 125 reads
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37 / 46

Right in the first part of her post she states he wanted BBFS and that is why she cut the session short.

Beyond that, it is her right to decide what acts she is comfortable with.

Yes, we all know (or should know) BBFS happens and probably more frequently than we think, particularly if you count situations where it was not intended , such as the cover breaking or coming off.  In the end each of us can only control what we do.  Frankly, I consider a good provider to be at lesser risk than many people with multiple sex partners because they are much more likely to regularly play safe and get tested.

gatorincs 40 Reviews 103 reads
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38 / 46

People trying to engage in that kind of conduct should be called out for exactly what it is: beyond unsafe and extraordinarily stupid. You protect us all by letting us know who might be doing those things (and who they are seeing).

LucasDavenport 20 Reviews 152 reads
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39 / 46

With a BBFS claim.  smh

CharlieBravo 32 Reviews 82 reads
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40 / 46

I did see that. For a provider I have seen. I highly doubt she would do that. Looks a bit sketchy.

LucasDavenport 20 Reviews 97 reads
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41 / 46

She replied that it's indeed fake.

LucasDavenport 20 Reviews 83 reads
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43 / 46

That guy is a walking time bomb of disease.

darmody 22 Reviews 103 reads
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This is a minor point, but just because you're within five pounds of your photos doesn't mean you can't appear skinnier in person.  

Which isn't to say he's telling the truth. But your characterization of it as a flat-out lie makes it sound as if it can't possibly be true. A person's perception of the difference between the way you look in photos and the way you look in reality is inevitably colored by subjectivity.

That's something reviewers ought to keep in mind and accommodate. I've written reviews where I've claimed girls looked better or worse than their photos, and I at least tried to put myself in the mindset of an objective observer.

LRob65 11 Reviews 111 reads
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46 / 46

Maybe it's just my opinion, but your misogynistic comments and the sickening and cowardly implied threats need to disappear. I fully remember reading your tone in the past. By the way, I think this board is pretty boring now compared to what it once was. I think you deserve credit for some of that. Personally, I wish we could adsumsparkle versus what you "contribute".

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