Newbie so I have no refs. I'm also self employed so there goes the job verification. There must be some way for me to prove I am who I say and not an LE. Any suggestions? At this point I'm not even slightly picky. I'm just trying to get my foot in the door!

Hi,
Just because you are self employed doesn't mean that the job verification is out the window.  I have been able to verify Self Employed gents quite easily.

Do you do something that requires a license (real estate, electrician, attorney etc) ?  If so, most ladies can look these up to make sure that you do have a license and verify your business name, how long you have been in business and see if the phone number is listed etc.

Room service 2000 and date check are great and used by many providers.

I tour constantly and have been reading about all the LE crackdowns.  I think ladies are definitely being a little more cautious.   Best of luck

Once you do that once or twice you should have no (no more than the rest of us do) problem with the locals

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I have been sucessfully engaged in this hobby for 10+ years, and over much of that time dated once or twice a week, and have NEVER submitted to a verification prosess! I have had to pass on some girls I really wanted to see, but it's a rule I have. Everything I have reguarding this hobby is in a no information, or dis-information format - I even keep a firewall between my TER identity and my hobby identity.
  This isn't to say it's the provider who I don't trust, it's about how safe is such info in their hands if their $hit goes sour? It could end up on LE watch lists if a girls phone is seized, or "little pink book" with their favorites list in it.  --  that don't even scratch the surface of girls who have a man in the background(call him what you want; pimp, boyfriend, ect...) that is usually an unemployed loser that's living off her money, and wants to shake guys down with threats to call home, work, mom, whatever if you don't pay him off! If I can't gain a girls trust in a face to face meeting, then I'll pay for her time and leave. (thats all I was there for anyway, right?) and move on to the next girl. The market alows this, there's no "shortage of shorties" if you know what I mean!

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employment. I could be wrong.

There are several ways to achieve this:
See a provider who requires less screening but is trusted as a reference source. They are out there.

Then see a provider who networks with some of the verification services (you can usually tell by their banners).  

Then use her as a reference with the service. Join service and pay a fee.

Another option:
You'd be shocked how many providers have access to things like Westlaw or other verification services.  Communicate to that provider that you don't feel comfortable furnishing all that information, but you will furnish a few key bits.    If you are legit, the provider will have no trouble tracking you down. Examples include clients you have worked with, licensures, past companies.  

This is just kind of the way it works.  The best girls require references/a service/or detailed info.  

If the issue is that you do want to hand over private info, then you'll have to do some homework  and use option one at the top of this message.

If the issue is that you feel you can't provide references, use option two: most self-employed people have plenty of references.

In your case, you'll probably just have to take a risk.  Then join a service: they are out there.  The best ones are DISCRETE and they will treat your information as such, deleting it immediately after verification. Look for one of these.

for what I do. My business name is registered with the seceratary of state, and that's about it. I have a tax I.D. of course but I'm certainly not going to give that out. My business is not listed in the phonebook but I do advertise in some local papers. (That was a problem for RS2K and datecheck)What would you do to verify me?

I would really like to know how you're capable of hobbying for so long while NEVER submitting to a verification process. Are there really that many girls out there that don't screen at all? Actually that's a little scary. That means they aren't protecting themselves from LE. Never the less, I guess I could take a chance once just to get in with some of the girls I really want to see. I guess I'll just have to be extremely cautious. How exactly do you go about this No-info/dis-information process. I'd think they'd at least ask for an I.D.

I have rolled the dice with agency verification and come out just fine.  I understand it is for the protection of the ladies.  

There is no way they should let somebody with no references or verified contact information into a room with lady who is alone with a lot of cash.  I've never had any reason to use rs2000.

With indys, I can usually drop a few local names and get in just fine.  

It takes a while (years) to gain those kinds of contacts but it can be done.

How do I know your not LE or will use what you learn from me against me?

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that are newbie to the market, and also are independents. I try not to see agency girls for this and other reasons, but the ones I have, really haven't given me a problem.

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I agree!  Why go around handing out a bunch of private info to people you don't know just to get your pencil sharpened? Its a business for them, so you should treat it as such as well.

Ben, I'm fascinated that in your last review you said you got the girl to give you her identification.  That's bold!