I notice that everyone on these discussions says anyone who uses bp or cl is just asking for trouble.I notice that almost all the providers can be found there,even the ones claimed to be the best.What gives? If someone has a foolproof way to be completely safe and completely satisfied,please let us know.I use bp and I'm rarely disappointed,but then who isn't.

it is not only BP or CL it is a combination of things.

If a guy is looking for 15 minutes for 50 bucks 20 minutes from the time he makes first contact, he has to expect to have bad experiences most of the time.  Just my opinion.

Agreed. It's a combination of factors. Terrific gals are on BP. But fakes and scammers lurk there as well. I agree that going for a quickie fast is more likely to end with a problematic result. Multiple gals same number is a sign to be cautious. As always, there really is no substitute for good reviews or a good word from a known TER guy who has posted multiple reviews.

Just my opinion... for what it's worth...

I think thats scraping the bottom of the barrel even by BP and CL standards.  

But its a valid point that even the high class ladies can be found on BP.  CL is a whole nuther thing.  I have noticed some use a different name and I have also noticed different rates between BP and Eros or P411.  

Interesting observation about P411. It now has more listings than EROS and many of the visitors are now showing up there.  I think the word is getting out to providers that they need to be on there and its free for them. I like it because it satisfies the screening requirement for most providers looking at a new client.

If I was only looking for 15 minutes, I'd save the money and do it myself.I want at least a half hour although at my age, that's about my limit anyway.I've looked at eros and I find them incomplete and no one has come up with a better alternative.

I have never been a TOFTT kind of person, so the brand new girl that just pops up, not getting a call from me.  But if I see a gal on BP or CL , I will look around at a number of advertising websites and review sites.  If I don't find reviews here, it is amazing how many of those fresh unreviewed ladies are reviewed else where. I look at 9 different sites and I find a LOT of them on other sites.

Not every lady and guy knows about TER or wants to use it, best to search as many places as possible.  My best advice and ambiguous opinion.

It's oversimplifying to just blast BP and CL as worthless.  They aren't, as can easily be seen by looking through the reviews and seeing how many ladies advertise on them (not so much CL these days but more in the past) and there are plenty of those reviews where the girls got good reviews.  Obviously, the risks are higher but, as always, the best thing is do your research and be careful out there.

I think P411 site is a win win for both sides.  It is free for the ladies, gives them a good reference check site, the guys can get provider ok's from the ladies, meaning they do not have to spill their information out countless times.

I have only ever booked with a provider one time that wasn't well reviewed here.  It wasn't a horrible experience but certainly not up to my expectations.  So my rule is easy, either they are well reviewed on TER or I don't waste my time.