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mariahlove 1511 reads
posted
1 / 23

I was reading another board post, and saw a comment stating " if her rates are lower then her market, that's a red flag"
 
Now this doesn't bother me at all everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but did get me to thinking... Do other gentlemen think this way? What are your opinions of providers whom offer lower rates, like myself perhaps. Am i a "red flag" lol.  

I thought this would be a good topic, as there are other providers here whom offer a lower rate then their market as well.  

We all have are own reasoning why we offer lower rates, mine just so happens to work for me. Nothing huge. No crazy story lol.

I do have a strong opinion about this subject, but i want to hear from you first.

Toodle

DirtyJesus 850 reads
posted
2 / 23

Often it's tied to looks, but not always... Such as with morbidly obese providers tend to be able to maintain "above-market rates" due to the fetish aspect of their size...  Blonde white girls also tend to maintains higher than typical rates even when menu and other aspects of service don't measure up, whereas often the very beautiful black girls are substantially below market and often offer some rather "extreme" levels of service because the market is flooded with black girls... (This works out great for me! I love em!)  

My biggest red-flag with a provider is when they state "absolutely no texting" in their ad... Chances are if they are that inflexible and pissy over something so trite, then that attitude will bleed over into their services and manifest as a very limited menu...  If they are already trying to over-control the situation with disclaimers in their ad before I even call, then that's a clear indicator that's they've got man-issues...

dadvocate 693 reads
posted
3 / 23

For me, it's a rule of thumb. The reviews of every woman I have researched whose prices are too low (less than 250 for 1h FS) show patterns of "issues": unsafe practices or neighborhoods, erratic performance, drama, lack of English skills, etc. At this point I simply screen them out from consideration. Some issues seem to follow some higher end providers as well, but it's less common. I am willing to pay more simply to not have to park in a bad neighborhood and have to explain to my wife why I was there when my windows were smashed in.

brilove See my TER Reviews 848 reads
posted
4 / 23

Such as in agencies and pimp type situations. Also some just don't want to "waste time" responding to tons of emails and texts; they want you on the line so they can get you booked asap. My guess is you are doing lots of bp shopping ... Not a bad thing but you seem to know some things to avoid. Plus agencies on bp should be avoided; they use b & s and upsell techniques!

smilin6969 40 Reviews 705 reads
posted
5 / 23

I believe there are a thousand reasons why a provider has certain price points. Lowering them sometimes or even having them permanently low does not run a red flag to me. Maybe she is trying to expand her clientele or maybe she just loves doing what she's doing, who knows.  I for one love this hobby, and when a provider can offer a lower point, that's good for me.... LOL
Now there are some price points that are very low and start to raise the red flag. But I think the flag get's raised completely when other components come together.

Nago8 4 Reviews 810 reads
posted
6 / 23

Texting is evidence.  Cops will always go thru a girl's phone if she's busted looking for texts from Daddy aka pimps so having texts regarding pricing,  availability,  and services on your phone is not cool.  Another item is that there is a huge volume of inquiry calls coming from BP adds so adding texting to the mix can be overwhelming.

Riley007 45 Reviews 696 reads
posted
7 / 23

I run a small, hourly business too so I understand there are tons of reasons to lower your rate. Maybe you aren't getting the volume of business you want, or your car needs a $2,500 repair, or you just want to expand your clientele. I know one lady that dropped her rate temporarily to bank some cash for a vacation. She not only needed spending money, but also needed to cover the two weeks she wouldn't be working. That seems pretty smart if you ask me.

I have learned from experience that anytime $300+ provider complains about not getting enough business, they don't want to hear the obvious answer, drop your rates. They all fear that they won't be able to raise the rates again, but I have seen quite a few girls start at $200 and raise their rates to $300+ as the word got out of great service. I also know a few ladies that give regulars a better rate due to knowing the guy and not having to worry about screening, LE, BO, or just the usual PIA factor of a new client.  

The point is rates go up and down for many reasons. A girl with good reviews can lower or raise her rates for any reason and I wouldn't assume a drop in service. That would be reflected in her reviews

brilove See my TER Reviews 678 reads
posted
8 / 23

instead of changing their regular rates, have different specials and who doesn't like specials? So in a sense the rates would be somewhat "lowered" temporarily yet the ones to benefit from that are the ones who saw the ad thus making guys look for your ads.  You don't see most retail businesses reducing their rates but you always see specials during slow times of the year.

mariahlove 595 reads
posted
9 / 23

This, is currently what i am doing and it works great for me. I am keeping my rate at 250 and offering specials for weeks i have cancellations, wanting to build clientele or perhaps it may be slow, there could be many reasons.  

I also agree with giving regular friends a special rate. I believe they deserve something a little extra special besides me of course ;

jsugar777 6 Reviews 674 reads
posted
10 / 23
Mindyzurgirl See my TER Reviews 696 reads
posted
11 / 23

I'm not having the luck I thought I would with my M-W special.
I don't understand why but I sure do agree with a gal who once told me keeping it 300 and above  
weeds out all the non-serious  and undesirable types.  
It's a shame too because I know the financial economy has NOT rebounded as quick or as well for most of the middle class.
    I discounted on those days because for me it's extremely important for me to meet friends -especially new ones-on those days.  
I stay low volume for reasons besides just my own preference...and I guess I expected a bigger desire for new friends to book ahead, yet it seems BECAUSE  I've got a special- new guys just want to know what OTHER bargains I offer.
                 Also they seem to think it's not important to try and pre-book to continue the good special.New communication can also be very crass, rude, & horrible when my rates are like this and it takes me that much longer to screen.
I'm sorry if I sound negative, though being able to speak my point of view in a public forum helps me feel a whole lot better.
       I guess I'm just truly surprised at how easy people take things for granted (re-schedule, cancel, re-schedule,) and how right this gal was by telling me the best guys pay 300 and up.  
In summation I'm not trying to whine but I am left shaking my head (SMH) & you asked ~so there it is :

DirtyJesus 670 reads
posted
12 / 23

While all that you said has elements truth, it's very culturally related to the types of phones the girls grew up with... Old gals are still using disposable prepaid phones and texting is difficult... Girls in their 20's from the "Qwerty" generation will text simple replys but discourage it... 18-19yo girls (which I have BY FAR the most experience with!) tend to be smartphone/touchscreen users and are much more adept to texting... Also girls of the google/chrome era use their tablets or laptops to message from google voice and route anonymous numbers to their cell phones...  Rarely do I find younger girls giving a shit about "evidence" of texts, and that is far less admissible in the prepaid era than it was back when phones were link able by contract to the user...  
 

Posted By: Nago8
Texting is evidence.  Cops will always go thru a girl's phone if she's busted looking for texts from Daddy aka pimps so having texts regarding pricing,  availability,  and services on your phone is not cool.  Another item is that there is a huge volume of inquiry calls coming from BP adds so adding texting to the mix can be overwhelming.

DirtyJesus 748 reads
posted
13 / 23

Unlike privider-generations of the past, where it was more difficult for young uneducated indie-girls to get clients, this new generation if recent highschool grads have much better tech-skills and growing up in multi-generational welfare-class families has given them an upper hand in using prepaid disposable Visa and master cards, jailbreaking used/stolen iPhones and installing prepaid t-mobile or walmart SIM cards, and organizing and publishing their own backpage ads worth the Adobe/PowerPoint skills they probably got in JR high!  Tbh, stumbling across a truly "pimped" girl or girl working for an "agency" in this 16-21 generation of escorts is damn rare! (I and if would know, the volume of girls I see is the same or more than it's ever been over the past 20+ years and these cultural-differences over previous generations is so overtly apparent!)  as for girls with a man in the shadows these days, it's usually a douche-boyfriend or a symbiotic-relationship she maintains with a drug dealer... Rarely is it EVER a "pimp" in the traditional sense of the word anymore...

JoeBanzai 30 Reviews 671 reads
posted
14 / 23

Prices too high.........prices too low.

Too tough of a screener...............too easy of a screener.

Too many reviews......................not enough reviews.

Too many 10's........................not high enough rated.

Refuses to text...........................Refuses to have phone conversation.

I am sure there are many more.

brilove See my TER Reviews 553 reads
posted
15 / 23

I get tons of new business and several of them become regulars because of my specials. I understand what you mean about weeding out some of them but honestly I've only come across gentleman. I also often offer Multi hour discounts such as a certain dollar amount off of two hours or 3 hour appointments so the gentleman I'm getting are still paying over 300 at times and I'm having lots of luck.I think it's one of those situations "to each his own or her own".

brilove See my TER Reviews 589 reads
posted
16 / 23

Its a throw away phone but not a cheap one lol ... I used Google talk when I first went Indy ... Not saying there isn't some truth in all of these reasons but not all of us "older ones" are oblivious to the tech world ... Imo there are several reasons and they vary just follow the providers requests because they have rules for a reason and if you did your research then everything should be good ;)

DirtyJesus 614 reads
posted
17 / 23

For the most part providers (and women in general) do stay as tech-current as their male counterparts... Just as men don't tend to stay as "fashion-current" with clothing trends as they get older, yet there are some exceptions to those rules as well ;)

Posted By: brilove
Its a throw away phone but not a cheap one lol ... I used Google talk when I first went Indy ... Not saying there isn't some truth in all of these reasons but not all of us "older ones" are oblivious to the tech world ... Imo there are several reasons and they vary just follow the providers requests because they have rules for a reason and if you did your research then everything should be good ;)

smilin6969 40 Reviews 570 reads
posted
18 / 23

It sucks that you have experiences like that and the feeling is staying above $300 keeps only nice men coming. I for one am a very sweet person (I believe any lady here that I've visited would vouch for that), but I can not afford pricing past $200-250. If I find someone special at 200, it allows me to save faster and visit more often.

bosssik 531 reads
posted
19 / 23

All I ever aspired to be is one of the " best guys "

Mindyzurgirl See my TER Reviews 622 reads
posted
20 / 23

Thanks for saying so. I KNOW there are some great guys with income limits.
I'm actually trying appeal to & remind the guys who have those limits to remember my M-W special and realize we have our reasons for our specials and if that's within your realm:
Make sure not to miss out, and not to take it for granted- or try and get that good rate on other days.  
Try to not reschedule & last minute cancel.
 To ALL you good guys out there: there are many, many, people in the TC and crossing certain rate lines really can open the floodgates for inquires of less serious, non- well mannered men.
That can take up more time -when you answer all your emails personally-and it may even effect ones ability to quickly know which guys are the good ones. So that's something to know when making your first contact with a new friend.
            Many women have specific communication habits meant to help assess the good from the bad so try not to take email & website communication personal.
 I also hope this discussion helps make people realize just because a woman runs a special doesn't mean she doesn't know her own value. =)  
    Now if you took the time to read this a big THANK YOU!!  
Happy day & great weekend to all,
Keep smiling,
~Mind

LadyAstrid See my TER Reviews 509 reads
posted
21 / 23

I believe it's the other way around. It's got to be quite difficult to be an online provider and not know your way around technology.  

Also, I can think of several reasons to discourage texting other than leaving an electronic footprint.  

I think the exception to the rule is any provider who advertises online to NOT be tech-savvy, no matter her age.

Peace,

Astri

Cropduster1 712 reads
posted
22 / 23

and this is a supply and demand game, pure capitalism!

vorlon 119 Reviews 655 reads
posted
23 / 23

Even then if she has a solid review history I may not be concerned; it just depends on the exact circumstances.

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