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Re: For what it's worth... I'd say it's worth
Kadjevic 5765 reads
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This is a very convoluted logic.  

1)  Your thinking would imply that if the so-called ugly girls from the known agencies hid their faces  and just showed their legs and boobs, you would take a chance and try them.

2)  How do you know the girl with the blurred face is the same girl that shows up at your door step? The photos on the sexytijuana website are as poor as the quality of the service they provide. They have every reason to hide and obscure reality to fool the suckers into fantasizing GFE experience.  

3)  And further more, according to your own observation and logic, since there is only one good looking girl out of 30, you would spend at least $1500 to have a one good looking girl. Wow!!!! What a waste of time and money.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 2:15:21 PM
1)  That's a possibility.  However, if they came from an organized agency known for dishonesty, I wouldn't.  Hiding the face itself doesn't count as dishonesty in my opinion, even though I don't like it when they do so.  I'm in a hell hole, so it's not like I can do too much stipulation.  I just ask they don't look like complete trash.

2)  I don't.  It's a gamble.  I can't comment on the service of all the ads posted at Sexytijuana.  Again, it's not a consorted effort and it's not a cohesive group.  It's a classified ad site like Craigs List.  You seem to be unable to grasp this simple concept.  I've had some times where I've been satisfied with the experience and some times I have not been.  I can't connect the two though because they're not the same people, they don't work for the same people, and the only thing they have in common is they post on the same classified ad site.  That's like comparing you and me just because we both post here on the forums.  That's stupid.

3)  Price all depends on what I'm getting.  $1,500 in Tijuana is quite a stretch.  Adult film stars go for that much.  And why are you so concerned with how I spend my money?  Don't worry about it, it's not your concern.  That's like me caring that you give some fatty $200 for an hour.  If that's your style, then by all means.  Just don't ask me to like it.  To me, I'll pay a little more if I don't have to close my eyes and pretend it's someone else better looking.  That being said, it is Tijuana Mexico and not Las Vegas Nevada, so the price should reflect the geographics and selection accordingly.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 2:35:09 PM

HalfHour8312 reads

are averaging about 40 US dollars for an hour, if my math is correct. (500 pesos)

How can the agencies ask for $200 US dollar for an hour (incl greek) ????

That is as much or a bit more than many of the ladies are getting in Phoenix right now.

Anyone??? I'd like to know.

:)

HalfHour

Posted By: HalfHour
are averaging about 40 US dollars for an hour, if my math is correct. (500 pesos)

How can the agencies ask for $200 US dollar for an hour (incl greek) ????

That is as much or a bit more than many of the ladies are getting in Phoenix right now.

Anyone??? I'd like to know.

:)

HalfHour
HalfHour... some guys are content eating at McDonalds while others want to dine at Mortons.  Some guys are content with a Carolla, others want a Lexus.  Etc. If you get the concept then you've got the answer to your question.

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For the most part the chicas on SexyTijuana only provide full service.  The date ends when you "pop" and they try to make that happen as quickly as possible.  In contrast, good agency escorts provide GFE sessions during which multiple pops are allowed because the date last for the scheduled time (e.g. the full hour).

If you want a GFE--dfk, bbbj, daty, msog, etc.--you'll probably get it with agency chicas, but not with the "cut rate" chicas on sites like SexyTijuana.  For guys--like me--that want a GFE it makes the extra money worthwhile.  It also means we don't have to expend time and money seeing a lot chicas on sites like SexyTijuana to find GFE providers.




-- Modified on 12/5/2010 4:21:45 PM

HalfHour5717 reads

because that was the biggest pile of steaming rhetoric I have heard outside a campaign.

Most of it had no meaning. just catch-phrase, buzzword, bullhockey.

I am not attacking you burt. You know TJ and I dont.

But I'm not stupid, not young, and I am very experienced in P4P

So....TJ chicas one-pop rush-rush $40-50.  Yes? Here that costs $80-100

TJ is half the cost.


All the HOT, in-shape, GFE women I get here are give BBBJTC, most NQNS, and greek, full hour plus, DFK, FBSM, MSOG included...

for 200-240. (160 for less pretty or heavier)

So why isnt TJ half the price on that????

I looked at the pics of the agency ladies commonly refered to on this board, and they are, as a group, unattractive. Plain & Simple.

And they are $200 hour

WHAT GOOD IS 2-3 HOUR GFE SPECIAL TO ME (GRINGO) IF THEY DONT SPEAK ENGLISH?

It looks like inflated price to me.

Just saying


Kadjevic8067 reads

Posted By: HalfHour
are averaging about 40 US dollars for an hour, if my math is correct. (500 pesos)

How can the agencies ask for $200 US dollar for an hour (incl greek) ????

That is as much or a bit more than many of the ladies are getting in Phoenix right now.

Anyone??? I'd like to know.

:)

HalfHour
Some people post like all women on Sexytijuana have some uniformed type of service level.  This is false, and ignorant.  These ideas come from the same people who claim that Seikos are "swiss made" when they're really Japanese.

Anyways, in answer to your question, the price of a service is determined by the amount of money that people are willing to pay for it.  In Tijuana, there are two price levels.  This is talked about a lot on many forums that are in Spanish.  There's the local price, and then there's what is tackily referred to as "gringo price".  I don't even like typing that word, but that's what it's called.

Local price max is going to be $120 an hour, and that's max.  It's normally around $60 - $80 roughly.  Anything north of $120 has the "gringo price" label applied to it.  Many agencies out there that advertise $120 - $150 an hour on their website come on to message boards and tell local residents to inquire about "local pricing" which is anywhere from $80 - $100 an hour.  These agencies are trying to capture both sides of the market sector by having two different pricing plans.

You've probably seen people here that claim that all American escorts are rip offs, don't provide service, think they're "better" than other people, and a whole other slew of bad behavior.  These same people paint the exact opposite picture of Mexican prostitutes about how they're actually super-intelligent unlucky women in disguise who love their job, are always pleasant, and have some sort of ancient wisdom passed down since the time of the Aztecs.  Any of us with common sense can obviously tell that women are women no matter where you go.  That being said, there are people who will actually pay more for a less-attractive Mexican prostitute than her stunningly attractive American counterpart.  This is because of that idea or expectation that anything American will be a rip-off.  (Strange how the most nationalistic Americans have this belief.  Their country is superior to others around the world yet their people are admittedly scumbags...)

As long as people pay the price, that's what the rate will be.  How long do you think the price would stay at $200 if the phone didn't ring for 3 weeks?  It would probably realistically take about 10 days before that price dropped by 25%, or they had some type of a "special" (which usually turns into permanent re-pricing).

Asking about women on Sexytijuana is like asking about women on Craigs List.  It's obviously going to differ depending on who is posting the ad.  Best bet is to get clarification.  Sexytijuana is a free classified ad site and nothing more.  Don't expect any kind of cohesive thought pattern over there.

Every prostitute I speak with talks about how they're making about 70% less what they made just 2 years ago.  The main topic they love talking about is how "slow" work is.  It's a buyer's market, so I can't justify paying anything more than $120 an hour unless it's some type of extreme circumstance or amazing beauty that I haven't come across yet.  Given that most prostitutes in Tijuana are severely out-of-shape, have weight problems, and wouldn't know a gym if it hit them in the face, that's doubtful to exist.

HalfHour5605 reads

quite a bit. Much good info! and thank you for that.

"Asking about women on Sexytijuana is like asking about women on Craigs List."

That speaks volumes! CL and its replacement Backpage are considered low rent, risky, places to find the bottom of the barrel. But if you know your area, and know what you're doing  (I do) you can find great women, great service at good prices.

That is precisely why I asked my question.

I *imagine* that coming to TJ to party down could be a good value and loads of fun. However, I am finding good looking providers here 160-240 hour (greek incl), that may run well over time no extra charge. And then I'm looking at the pictures of the TJ agency gals listed at 200(greek incl) and they are average looking at best... and no offence to anyone's fave gal, but some are homely-- which I can get free at any western bar.

I'm not hard to please, looks wise, but I pay for ATTRACTIVE women that are 'out of my league'


How you describe your approach and pricing structure sounds just right,  and what I could go for.

I don't speak spanish, I don't know the area or any "local" info. But I sure as hell ain't a STUPID gringo -- and I see some inflated pricing for us gringos, which you have confirmed.


I guess I'm wondering if TJ is worth it for me.

Thanks again! and Cheers!

:)

HalfHour


Kadjevic5657 reads

Posted By: HalfHour
quite a bit. Much good info! and thank you for that.

"Asking about women on Sexytijuana is like asking about women on Craigs List."

That speaks volumes! CL and its replacement Backpage are considered low rent, risky, places to find the bottom of the barrel. But if you know your area, and know what you're doing  (I do) you can find great women, great service at good prices.

That is precisely why I asked my question.

I *imagine* that coming to TJ to party down could be a good value and loads of fun. However, I am finding good looking providers here 160-240 hour (greek incl), that may run well over time no extra charge. And then I'm looking at the pictures of the TJ agency gals listed at 200(greek incl) and they are average looking at best... and no offence to anyone's fave gal, but some are homely-- which I can get free at any western bar.

I'm not hard to please, looks wise, but I pay for ATTRACTIVE women that are 'out of my league'


How you describe your approach and pricing structure sounds just right,  and what I could go for.

I don't speak spanish, I don't know the area or any "local" info. But I sure as hell ain't a STUPID gringo -- and I see some inflated pricing for us gringos, which you have confirmed.


I guess I'm wondering if TJ is worth it for me.

Thanks again! and Cheers!

:)

HalfHour


Personally, I don't see what you'd be missing.  I mean it might be possible to find some attractive women out here, but I wouldn't make a special trip just to see the women.  That'd be silly.  If you find yourself here on business or something, sure, take a look around just like any city.

I unfortunately have to live here, so that's why I'm forced to scour the garbage to find something decent.  If I was in Phoenix or Los Angeles I'd feel way better about local selection.

The women in Phoenix and Los Angeles are incredibly attractive and are definitely a good buy.  Out here, it's maybe 1 out of 30 who do not have a major physical deal-breaker such as being overweight, having the signs of discount cosmetic surgery, or their body just being so shot out that it's gross.  There really is no standard, so that's why it happens.  This kind of thing wouldn't fly in LA, that's for sure.

I'm jealous, that's for sure.  Phoenix has a great scene.  We just have a dump pile out here save for maybe a handful.

Kadjevic  SAID:
"I'm forced to scour the garbage to find something decent.
We just have a dump pile out here save for maybe a handful."

Since you are forced to scour the garbage and dump pile, you have chosen the right place like sexytijuana.com to look for the garbage.  They advertise just the kind of women you like to check out - faces blurred or hidden -  providing dubious services and rampant bait and switch.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 9:11:30 AM

Kadjevic5053 reads

Posted By: johnlcalifornia
Kadjevic  SAID:
"I'm forced to scour the garbage to find something decent.
We just have a dump pile out here save for maybe a handful."

Since you are forced to scour the garbage and dump pile, you have chosen the right place like sexytijuana.com to look for the garbage.  They advertise just the kind of women you like to check out - faces blurred or hidden -  providing dubious services and rampant bait and switch.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 9:11:30 AM
It's sort of like a dice roll.  Could turn out good in the face, could turn out bad.  The places that show all faces though usually have women that are just downright ugly.  With the blurred face, it could go either way.  So it's a choice between, would I call someone I know will be ugly, or do I take a chance that they might be ugly.  Throw the 50% price difference in  there as well, and that's how I decide.  That and I don't have to listen to how a prostitute is actually a business owner in real life, or is 3 credit hours away from her PhD.  It's a bad situation all around, so I do what I can.

Posted By: Kadjevic
Posted By: johnlcalifornia
Kadjevic  SAID:
"I'm forced to scour the garbage to find something decent.
We just have a dump pile out here save for maybe a handful."

Since you are forced to scour the garbage and dump pile, you have chosen the right place like sexytijuana.com to look for the garbage.  They advertise just the kind of women you like to check out - faces blurred or hidden -  providing dubious services and rampant bait and switch.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 9:11:30 AM
It's sort of like a dice roll.  Could turn out good in the face, could turn out bad.  The places that show all faces though usually have women that are just downright ugly.  With the blurred face, it could go either way.  So it's a choice between, would I call someone I know will be ugly, or do I take a chance that they might be ugly.  Throw the 50% price difference in  there as well, and that's how I decide.  That and I don't have to listen to how a prostitute is actually a business owner in real life, or is 3 credit hours away from her PhD.  It's a bad situation all around, so I do what I can.
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This is a very convoluted logic.  

1)  Your thinking would imply that if the so-called ugly girls from the known agencies hid their faces  and just showed their legs and boobs, you would take a chance and try them.

2)  How do you know the girl with the blurred face is the same girl that shows up at your door step? The photos on the sexytijuana website are as poor as the quality of the service they provide. They have every reason to hide and obscure reality to fool the suckers into fantasizing GFE experience.  

3)  And further more, according to your own observation and logic, since there is only one good looking girl out of 30, you would spend at least $1500 to have a one good looking girl. Wow!!!! What a waste of time and money.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 2:15:21 PM

Kadjevic5766 reads

This is a very convoluted logic.  

1)  Your thinking would imply that if the so-called ugly girls from the known agencies hid their faces  and just showed their legs and boobs, you would take a chance and try them.

2)  How do you know the girl with the blurred face is the same girl that shows up at your door step? The photos on the sexytijuana website are as poor as the quality of the service they provide. They have every reason to hide and obscure reality to fool the suckers into fantasizing GFE experience.  

3)  And further more, according to your own observation and logic, since there is only one good looking girl out of 30, you would spend at least $1500 to have a one good looking girl. Wow!!!! What a waste of time and money.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 2:15:21 PM
1)  That's a possibility.  However, if they came from an organized agency known for dishonesty, I wouldn't.  Hiding the face itself doesn't count as dishonesty in my opinion, even though I don't like it when they do so.  I'm in a hell hole, so it's not like I can do too much stipulation.  I just ask they don't look like complete trash.

2)  I don't.  It's a gamble.  I can't comment on the service of all the ads posted at Sexytijuana.  Again, it's not a consorted effort and it's not a cohesive group.  It's a classified ad site like Craigs List.  You seem to be unable to grasp this simple concept.  I've had some times where I've been satisfied with the experience and some times I have not been.  I can't connect the two though because they're not the same people, they don't work for the same people, and the only thing they have in common is they post on the same classified ad site.  That's like comparing you and me just because we both post here on the forums.  That's stupid.

3)  Price all depends on what I'm getting.  $1,500 in Tijuana is quite a stretch.  Adult film stars go for that much.  And why are you so concerned with how I spend my money?  Don't worry about it, it's not your concern.  That's like me caring that you give some fatty $200 for an hour.  If that's your style, then by all means.  Just don't ask me to like it.  To me, I'll pay a little more if I don't have to close my eyes and pretend it's someone else better looking.  That being said, it is Tijuana Mexico and not Las Vegas Nevada, so the price should reflect the geographics and selection accordingly.

-- Modified on 12/6/2010 2:35:09 PM

HalfHour6949 reads
For what it's worth... I'd say it's worth

quite a bit. Much good info! and thank you for that.

"Asking about women on Sexytijuana is like asking about women on Craigs List."

That speaks volumes! CL and its replacement Backpage are considered low rent, risky, places to find the bottom of the barrel. But if you know your area, and know what you're doing  (I do) you can find great women, great service at good prices.

That is precisely why I asked my question.

I *imagine* that coming to TJ to party down could be a good value and loads of fun. However, I am finding good looking providers here 160-240 hour (greek incl), that may run well over time no extra charge. And then I'm looking at the pictures of the TJ agency gals listed at 200(greek incl) and they are average looking at best... and no offence to anyone's fave gal, but some are homely-- which I can get free at any western bar.

I'm not hard to please, looks wise, but I pay for ATTRACTIVE women that are 'out of my league'


How you describe your approach and pricing structure sounds just right,  and what I could go for.

I don't speak spanish, I don't know the area or any "local" info. But I sure as hell ain't a STUPID gringo -- and I see some inflated pricing for us gringos, which you have confirmed.


I guess I'm wondering if TJ is worth it for me.

Thanks again! and Cheers!

:)

HalfHour


Price is not the only factor

If you find a sexy Tijuana chica that provides good service, then there would be no need to pay more.  Fortunately lots of folks from Arizona come visit us for the superior service.

possible reasons for the TJ agency rate...

Good question, HalfHour. Here's my take on it.

If I could play north of the border with the same level of comfort as I can south of the border, I suppose it would be possible to find good experiences for not much more than the TJ agency prices. But some guys (like me) don't have that option.

There are a lot of considerations when one chooses an escort and money for some is not high on the list. In my own case, I am not rich by any means, but I rarely get to play, so $50-100-150 -- doesn't make much difference to me. (If I was hiring an escort even a few times a month, then it would be an issue.) What *I* am looking for is the closest guaranty I can get for a GFE with a lady who is young, reasonably attractive and in decent physical condition. IMO, I have a much better chance of getting what I want via an agency girl versus a faceless freelancer on the escort ad sites. I'm sure there are some real gems in TJ who only charge $50-75 an hour, but I don't have the time (or the language skills) to find them. So that's why I am willing to pay $120-150 an hour to the agency girl. (I'm not a Greek seeker so it's not $200 for me.)

I hope this helps answer your question HalfHour. I suspect there are enough guys in situations similar to mine who are willing to pay the rate so it remains where it is... for now.

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