With the current change on the board, I have seen many positives the best being the crop of interesting discussions that are popping up. Unfortunately many people don’t like the change. Why is that? Does an extra tab really affect how they browse the boards?

I am relatively new to the boards and such but have enjoyed all the discussions, arguments, and disagreements. I accept that people will complain about the changes and all but what is really the main gripe? Seriously I don’t get it?

The main point of the change was to be able to filter the ads from the discussion topics. So far I have not seen any providers complain of the change. Is that a good thing? I have seen more hobbyists complain though and is that a good thing?

All in all I hope that the flow of info regarding the hobby keeps expanding  (safely of course).


Beemer in K-land

I guess you know something about whining because you sure did your share over the adds.  I don't care about where the adds are one way or another.  But just as the extra tab is no big deal to you, paging through adds wss no big deal to me and probably wan't to many others.  I just about never checked any of the adds before and probably won't ever hit that tab now.  As far as all the complaining you think you're seeing, why don't you go back through and take a count of what you consider complaints?  You might find there really haven't been that many.  I slso fail to see how the discussion board is suddenly more interesting now.  I'd guess (biut I'm not about to do a count), that the guys spouting this theory the loudest are those that were doing all the whining about the adds in the first place.

And you probably won't admit it, but if K-girls had been posting adds, you likely wouldn't have been complaining.  Hell, you'd probably ave been responding to most of them.

Yes I did my whining and I am proud of it because I was hopefully able to bring some change to the board. Unlike you, who seems to be a curmudgeon of sorts, I want to talk about things. If my point of view is wrong I am glad you feel so, to me it seems you are only able to respond and attack without contributing much. For those such as you who feel the need to keep the status quo good for you.

As far as k-girls, didn't we get past this already? I already told you that I would promote the k-girls as much as I can safely and responsibly. Didn't you get that off my last response to you? I am a fan of the k-girls and will promote the good and if there are any bad then I will do the same. Why does it bother you that I talk about them even though I never brought it up in the post?

I'm sorry you don't seem to find the board interesting but that is a difference in opinion is it not? I let my thoughts out on what I felt was a great change but once again, my opinion. I guess If this hadn't come up, YOU wouldn't have expressed yourself either. Guess what? We have a discussion...good for you RPD, I knew you could do it.

Im not attacking you but I want to know why as a newbie to this board it was your duty to change this board?  

Many of us have been on this board for some time and like RPD said, never had a problem searching between ads and discussion and did not see the need for two boards.  

You make it sound like, we won and you guys lost. And it shouldn't be like.

I am not fond of the two boards but its over and done with now.
Its just seems to me to be a separation of the sexes.

What does my being a newbie have to do with anything? What makes you think I am a newbie in any case?

And I have never felt it was my "duty" to change the board. I saw a problem as did others where good discussions where being pushed down due to the ads and I spoke up about it.

Many felt the same otherwise TER wouldnt have changed the boards. I understand many of you have been on the boards and got used to the format and there is nothing wrong with that but, those that felt that maybe a change was needed, SPOKE up and they got heard.

I have not taken an attitude of a "we won, you lost" mentality. If it sounds like that I am sorry. The goal here is to be able to discuss things without being burdened by having to filter through the ads IMO. If people are not comfy with this new format, by all means speak up or whine about it. It worked for me.

Your response indicates you don't a very good grasp of what I was said.

Does a newbie have an less rights than a veteran? Do the ideas and opinions of fresh , clear , objective mind less valid than an experienced set in it's way mind? Ideas should stand nod fall on merit rather than seniority and longevity. I happened to be among those who called for a separate page for ads , others called for a separate page for K-girls , it was a healthy debate and expression of preferences . I do not know if whether that influenced TER's powers that be to create new pages for regional ads, but they have whether in response to requests or because they wanted to apply best practices does not matter because it was their call and they made it.

The complaint from the Advertisers were that their ads were being pushed to pages 2 ,3 and beyond within a days or several hours of posting. On the dedicated this problem seems to have been resolved because ads seem remain longer on page 1 and the number of hits seem to have doubled on their new page. Within a few months the principals can determine if their business has improved since last year.

This is not a battle of the sexes but an effort to make a discussion board fulfill the purpose for which it is intended and to help provide exposure to the providers who take the time to advertise.

The girls who used to participate in the discussion are still here contributing . Sorting apples from oranges that not translate into a separation of the sexes but simply separating ads from discussion. Hepefully there are only winners out of this decision.  

 

As many of you know I learned how to become indy and leave an agency (after only 2 months) thru the TER boards.  The smallest discussion can help a girl improve her level of service, minute details can go a long way when you're trying to retain your clientele.  The discussions have also allowed guys to see a bit more of what kind of girl I am before we meet, it's gives a wider scope of disposition and personality than the typical ad I am going to post on CV or Eros. It's kept people away that I would NOT want to meet as well, if they see that we will clash, they fuck off to the next girl. Win/win.

As soon as girls weren't allowed to post on CL, TER was flooded with girls seeking a place for free ads, I have no problem with free ads but it seems that someone who takes their business seriously is also willing to invest in advertising. CV/Eros ads aren't cheap!  Maybe some of you business owners will agree.  There should be a forum for girls who want a quick in/quick out approach, don't want a website, etc and the ad boards are great for that!

The changes will put a little pressure on the girls to get creative instead of copy/pasting their ads every 7 days but it doesn't exclude them, they'll have to be willing to use their brains for a few minutes and bring something to the table.  The majority of the ladies here are genius at it!  Ashley and Amsterdam come to mind!  They're always fun on the boards and they use a little creative marketing!  It's fantastic!

BB

To be honetst,

I don't really care what you have to say. I will probably ignore you from now on so have a great day.

Because in your main thread you stated and I quote:
"I am relatively new to the boards and such but have enjoyed all the discussions, arguments, and disagreements. I accept that people will complain about the changes and all but what is really the main gripe? Seriously I don’t get it?"

I don't doubt you are not new to all of these.  But if you do want a community discussion board, then we don't need to be reminded that one is a newbie and one is a veteran.  I really dont like those terms because I feel everyone should be equal around here.  In your response to RPD1952 you said and I quote:
"Yes I did my whining and I am proud of it because I was hopefully able to bring some change to the board. Unlike you, who seems to be a curmudgeon of sorts..."  

RPD is not a bad tempered person and did not deserve that. You questions his contribution to this board, but if you did a search, he has 625 posts on this board in the last 7 years, he has pulled his share.  People should be able to post whatever they feel like without the name calling.  Does this example help you to understand my point?
Instead of whine, didn't you mean to say DISCUSSION?

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I am open to change and do hope it works.  

Historically on this board, very few ladies participate in discussions on this board compared to the number of ladies with reviews on this site in the LA area.  

Like you said, we'll see how this goes in a few months.
Hopefully for the better.

Wow, some spirit you have.

You want everyone to contribute but then say this.  

"Can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen"

I have no intention of "getting out of the kitchen". I have a problem with him personally. If I can't discuss things with him without getting myself emotionaly involved then I will take myself out of the dialkog. I feel he has specifivcally targetted me and will just ignore him. I am always open to other people. Just not him.

So before you start quoting pres truman ( whom I actually feel was a great president)so don't judge with one statement

Amen to that. Eom.

This is what I like about the discussion board. I am able to express and others as well. People chimed in and I appreciate that. For kenescalde, I appreciate the input regarding rpd. I really have no idea and don't care to see what his history is. I just have a personal dislike for him. I can appreciate him chiming in and all but no thanks.

Maybe my thinking is skewed and maybe I didn't present myself to well but in either case, I stand by my post.

You said I don't think the board is interesting.  I did not express an opinion one way or the other.  What I said was I don't see that it's suddenly more interesting now, with adds gone, which is what you seem to be spinning.  You said I don't want change.  I did not say that.  I said I don't care whether there's an add board or not.  As to the K-girl remark, the point had nothing to do whether you talk about K-girls in general or the fact that you didn't mention them in this post.  What I suggested was, that you probably wouldn't have been banging the drum for a seperate add board if K-girls used the add boards.  In fact, it seems to me, that the little campaign for a separate add board started around the time when a few ladies were percieved as K-girl bashing and a few guys, such as yourself, were so up in arms about it.  So I think perhaps some of the motivation for calling for the separate add board had a at least a little of a payback element to it.

And glad to see that K. clarified why he (or was it you?) referred to you as a newbie.