backstory:  my wife of 35 yeas left me 8 months ago, we've been living separately since then.  we talk, we're civil, but she doesn't want to live with me.

they do it just for the money.  As you point out, sometimes they do it because they need a classy, handsome, witty, older gentleman to escort them out to a function, and there are precious few of us left.

At least from your board "persona," you seem like a personable, genuinely good dude. Keep your head up.

and good luck to you too bud

But Im just gald to hear there are ladies treating you right.
That is what this is about.  

you mention "atf" which suggests youve been seeing escorts while married to your wife.  To me thats BS.  you get no sympathy from me.  You dishonored your vows and disrespected your wife.  If more to it then ill apologize if im out of line.

You don't know the circumstances of his marriage.  There are millions of different marriage dynamics out there.  Through the years, they could have agreed on a mutual break to see other people or simply had an open marriage to begin with.  There are all manner of possibilities to consider or that might be kept private before you declare this man BS, as you call it.

Peter, what a nice story.  Thank you for sharing it. While the money does help pay the bills, spending time with nice guys is a bonus.

So since you admitted that, you probably don't have any business commenting on the other.

Providers = 2, Reviews = 0   is not a great score so far.

Marriages are not all black and white.  There are many ways to have a marriage work, and sometimes marriages stay together to  minimize collateral damage to loved ones, but the passion is gone, so you do what you can to take care of the sexual aspect of your life elsewhere.  Oftentimes, the wife knows and is cool with it because its no longer a priority for her, but she accepts that you aren't ready to hang up your spurs yet.  There's many ways to make things work.  You can't really say someone's way of life is bad until you're walked in their shoes.

From what I understand, it appears that the majority of hobbyists are married.  I may be wrong about they being the majority, but there are a lot of married guys doing this for any number of reasons.  I know a lot of them feel that their marriage is sexless, or emotionless or both, but impractical or unduly expensive to get out of.   Filling that void with one or a few of the wonderful ladies here can actually work to keep the marriage intact.  Or prolong the agony as it may be.

I'm a bit introverted in general, and my preference is not to review unless something prompts it. Though both of the ladies I've seen were absolutely perfect (in my estimation), they're both very highly reviewed and - when asked - were nonplussed about the "need" for a review.

point as well.  Divorce seems like a nuclear option compared to adding a provider or two to your life if lack of sex is the only issue in the marriage.

my post wasn't about how mean my wife has treated me.  if it was, then yes, you'd have every right to point out that i had sex with other women while married to her.

But like others have said, you were cheating on your wife. Surprised she didn't leave you back in 2007, when I think she may have found out the first time. And my guess is that she did find out, then in 2011 you went back to your playing ways and she finally said "Fuck it, and you". And now you have your Jesus moment and say how wonderful all the ladies are  and it's not "always" about the money...Oh please stop it. Yes there are a few ladies that can lend a shoulder to cry on but try that shit every week and see how that plays out... good luck with that. Hate to come off hard but man, my guess is that this became a you problems years ago.

being a friend and talking over coffee etc even though a customer is one thing.  but you honestly can tell me you would have spent hours listening and then kissing and having sex with him for free?

as those are reasons i can understand but he offered nothing of the sort.  just that he needed to be pleasured to satisfy his self needs because his wife couldn't get him off...

(patented Jinx sarcasm light -on). So this wonderful lady makes your day brighter for half her going rate and you don't tip her?  Cheap bastard!  You don't tell us who this wonderful Clara Barton is so the rest of us sad sacks can't grace her door step with our own tales of woe and thereby increase her business?  Selfish chump!!!  (sarcasm light -off)

youre pointing out how escorts dont see customers because of money.  

how "low" she went to cheer you up.  Sometimes "lower" is good!

To put it simply " No such things as a free lunch" / Catch 22.  

...was way out of line telling you to review.  When he starts his own website, he can make the rules.  But right now, "he's not the boss of you."  He's my friend but I would not have been as polite as you - I would have told him to fuck off and mind his own business.

tailgate you in post  cat LOL!!
WEll  the lady in question was generous with her time .. if u go on therapie They will charge u extra hour  
And do not give shit about you ... and not if you do not feel good They will get ride of YOU  go home with your drama  
And give you  prozac prescription !! LOL
but anyway ...obvious she wonT  see him for free
what fuck!! We are not stupid to be dating married guys... rigth!!!??
but we do like and have compassion for people  

Haha, no worries. I wasn't offended and I can see his point of view. I'm just not really in a "reviewing" headspace right now. I'm enjoying being a wide-eyed hobby tourist while it still lasts. =)

This thread is making me crack up.  Who cares why he did what he did.  It's his choice. And he wasn't whining he was just saying what a great experience he had.   Jesus. The moral police should put their badges away and stfu.

It's not about having thick skin.  

i just got my second dog.  lots of unconditional love!

feel like you owe me money for reading this

how many don't get it when humor is subtle.  It was meant to be a humorous invitation to join the reviewers on the this site.  He is obviously articulate.  We need more reviewers like that.  I thought doing it like a sports score would be funny.  Some here need to lighten up and get a sense of humor.  Don't make me dumb things down for fear of being attacked.

classic straw man:  madison didn't say it wasn't only about the money; you conveniently left out her qualifier "all about" the money, and challenged her to answer a question that was never part of the original statement.  nobody said providers would give me time or sex if i didn't pay them;  you of course are missing the point of the original post, as i 've stated before.

you're judging.  you are the classic internet troll, make an incendiary statement, then recoil in mock mortification when someone calls you on it.

Something a duck with a speech impediment says.  

perspective on relationships.  He's relatively young compared to us, and from what he has said about his past relationships, I am willing to bet he has never been married.  He has talked about his many "ex's" in terms of Kgirl providers, but has not mentioned any civvie relationships.   I often find men that have never been married has an unrealistic view of what marriage is, so I will usually cut them some slack for their lack of experience in the marriage arena, and in this case, in matters relative to your post.  If I've got this wrong, Dance, you are welcome to correct me by providing more facts.

"Second dog", are you referring to a real 4-legged dog, or an ugly woman?  You can get unconditional love from both, so I think clarification is in order.

You are missing the point.  First off I don't have sex with all my male friends.  A couple guys I have gone out to lunch or dinner with off the clock.  I hope to go for a hike with one special friend this summer.  

Oh please Father Dance bless me and hear my confession.  I have laid with harlots and debauched myself.  Many times.  I have missed both vespers and Mass in doing this.  I know that I am only human and born in sin.  I know I can never be as righteous and holy as thou.  But please forgive me.  I will only have sex with Catholic girls from now on.  Or girls that may have heard of Catholics.  Now how many Hail Marys must I say?

As well as a bathroom break and a run to the concession stand. lol

Ohhh cat..
>> I TAUGTH you are paying me some din din.. dong dinners LOL
Ops  
Trim..... trim ....Wife is calling...

lol

I thought she'd filed them over a month ago!! Why do some people take forever to make up their mind?

I missed the news of your canonization, St. Dance.

my forgiveness...

plus a Tesla S coupe... as i must be enviromentally friendly to the Earth I created.

judge what?  do you even know the definition of a cheater?  is there some other meaning?   for me to judge there has to be i don't know a different interpretation...is there a good cheater???  

i just don't date civies anymore.  i like sex and sex with civies is mediocre at best so why date them.  when i can bang hot girls who suck me dry as im cumming and make me scream for mercy and tongue violate my ass.  civie girls don't seem to like to do that.

listen you seem like a good escort.  so a good one is someone also listens to your client and then bang them after you pay.  or just listen after being paid.  or im sure theres crappy ones who don't listen and just bang them.  but either way money is paid.  or did you become an escort who don't want to get paid?  if thats the case can i get your number

Examples

i won't bother to point out for a third time that you are setting up a strawman argument by saying i stated providers don't do it for the money.  i never said that, anymore than i say doctors don't heal sick people for the money or mechanics don't repair cars for the money.

he managed to hijack my thread about women with compassion into a self-righteous bull shit session about the religious right's idea of what men and women should be.

If you have a relationship with a civvie girl, not just a one-night stand, one of the joys in life is to take a blank slate (mediocre, in your words) and teach her to do everything you want just the way you like it.  If you have skills of your own, they will return the favor once they learn how to do things.  You have seen enough providers to know how they do the things they do, so why not teach a civvie girl how to fuck like a provider and you won't be limited by finances to getting laid twice a month.  Just a suggestion.  

I think honesty is needed.  

Why bother trying to inform the ignorant who are too stupid to know they are ignorant and too frigid in their thinking to even want to learn?   It's called trying to teach a pig to sing.  It's a waste of your time and it annoys the pig.

I find it very rude to let the whole world (TER LA BOARD) that a Lady spent more time with you then you booked!
I'm very fortunate through this road I have found LADIES that enjoy my company.  A gentleman never "BRAGS" about how much extra time was given.  Yes Goldie it is an anomaly in the eyes of some.  
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And some dudes just need attention more than others. I find if you post all the time you are lacking something in your life.....Like I used to do when I first started.

I don't know exactly what kind of kinky behaviors Mr. BPJ enjoys.  But blaming his wife for not willing to please him on bed like all his ATF providers, is just out of my mind.

We can see that from his posts.  I have no doubt that if dancebbq09 got married as soon as his k-woman wife got older and left him to use his hand he would be back to seeing escorts real fast.  

It's a business.  They gave you extra hours to make you feel so good, and they expect you to return to bring more money.  That's what a good provider usually do.  It happens all the time in all kinds of business.  It doesn't means they love you, or really enjoy your kinks.  They are so good that make you feel they like you, but at the end, it's just a business.  The main purpose of what they are doing is just for more business, more money in the future

I always hold out hope that if presented with facts that disabuse them of their prejudices, they will come to see the light, so I try to be patient with some of the younger inexperienced members here.  I both agree and disagree with various posts of his, but I think he just has a very narrow body of experience when it comes to women, but as you point out, doesn't seem open-minded to discover and/or embrace what he DOESN'T know.  To put it your way, if we don't get a song or two soon, I will give up.  

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although David Carradine was awesome in Kill Bill!

Thank you Father.  I guess you are now saying that priests only do it for the money as well.   You won't get any of those things from me.  You can go back to buggering little boys now.

I like you, too.  I think you have a wealth of knowledge to share about the Kgirl scene from your own perspective as a Korean hobbyist.  However, for the same reason you say a Caucasian man is not going to understand the Kgirl mind like you do, I think you should concede that an never-married man like you is not going to understand what its like to be married like those of us that have been.  Rather than argue with everyone about whether it is cheating or not, just accept that you have no frame of reference on this subject.  Sometimes, when it comes to new things, its better to watch and learn, as I have paid attention to some of the things you have said about dating Kgirls on the outside.

I thought like him a long time ago.  There is the fantasy.  That is where his head is now.  Then there is reality.  That is where his head will be eventually.  You are totally correct Coeur.

Goldie, you're awesome... both situations are above and beyond the call of duty and goes to show that at the end of the day, we are just people being there for other people... it's not always just a transaction (unlike so much else in business and the world).  Thank you (and BPJ) for showing me the "human side" of this hobby.  I can't wait to find special friends like you.