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I was out of the game for awhile, and ran into the same problem.  A lot of providers can and will do their own very discreet screening if you're willing to share your employment info with them.  It's primarily to be sure you're not L/E.  If you find a lady you like, tell her your situation and see if she's amenable to that, or some other alternative form of confirmation.

I have been hobbying on and off for the past 10 years.  During this time I only wrote a few reviews, as I am not a kiss and tell type of guy.  The providers I have seen, mostly for FBSM, never asked me for a referral.  Now they are either retired, moved, do not offer referrals or do not reply to my request for a referral.  I only have one white list referral.  So, I am stuck.  I can't get a referral from the providers I have seen and I cannot see providers I would like to see since I do not have any referrals.  I'm not wild about giving my info to a company like a Preferred 411 or Date Check.  I'm sure they are fine and discreet, however it still gets back to the issue where many provider ads say - without at least 2 referrals you will not get an answer.  I have found this to be true.  Any suggestions?

I was out of the game for awhile, and ran into the same problem.  A lot of providers can and will do their own very discreet screening if you're willing to share your employment info with them.  It's primarily to be sure you're not L/E.  If you find a lady you like, tell her your situation and see if she's amenable to that, or some other alternative form of confirmation.

I was out of the hobby for about 18 mos., however, I had over 70 reviews. I posted as you did here and got a response from 3 different ladies that were willing to see me.
Here is the link to a hottie that see's newbies and people without refernces. There may be some screening.
http://orange-county-escorts.cityvibe.com/escorts/list/144347.htm
TER ID: 29521
Good Luck.

I haven't been off and on like you. I'm just starting, but it feels sort of like the "Entry level job- experience required" conundrum. And based on reviews you definitely get what you pay for. Scouring BP for top-quality girls is pretty useless. They charge less and don't ask for referrals but it doesn't seem the service is as good. And they probably wouldn't qualify as a "quality" referral either.

And what exactly do girls ask your employers when they get your info? It just makes me uncomfortable to know I might lose my job(I'm not LE but I do work in a security related field) but I guess it's the risk you take?

I am having the same problem and it is frustrating when you want to see someone and you can not get a hold of your references or not able to get this done in time for a session.  

As one provider pointed out on another thread, LA is one of the hardest towns to get references from other ladies.  As she stated, the ladies do not make it a priority to give out a references to another lady.  It is just sad that some do not want to extend the courtesy and help another person out. What goes around comes around.

I believe it was back in 2008 when TER introduced the White Listing system. At the time, it was a great tool to help improve and speed up the verification process.  But, it seems nowadays the ladies are not using the system and are placing their own standards on how they issue the white listing, which renders the system useless.

I know there are a lot of good guys out there that want to see the ladies but are having trouble with references.  Ladies, if there is a better way, let us know. But this will just force guys to look elsewhere.

I like the white listing but I've discovered what you guys have.  Even though I have white listing, the lady or agency still wants a reference or two.  Hmmmm?  Luckily for me, I've seen the most recent listing several times so she has told me I can use her as a reference.  Worked for the agency, waiting on the lady for the last time I needed that reference.  We'll see.  

Being single and not a public figure, I usually have no problem giving the ladies my employment info.  Not possible now because I'm between jobs so I am limited in a way but I'm also not seeing many ladies.  I could be wrong but with the ladies I tend to try and do see, the chances of your info "getting out there" is slim.  When the ladies have called my workplace, they have ALWAYS been very discrete.

Good Luck.

I am in the same boat but because I prefer a woman closer to my ag e
or 50+ none of the younger ones would help me .Matter of fact after my last encounter asking about older women the 30 yr old something looked pissed.  I cant relate to girls in their 20's and 30's
because I feel like I'm with a daughter. TER should have a mature section for that type.

For those concerned, if a lady is willing to call your employer to verify you, as I said, it's just to make sure you're not L/E.  The ladies on TER are just as concerned about their privacy as you.  They may not even speak to you if you have a building with a central switchboard.  If they ask for you by name and someone says "Hold on, I'll transfer you...", they usually will hang up as that's enough for them.

Hey guys....

So just to give a little perspective from my point of view:

Whitelist or not, for my own personal feelings of comfort and safety, I NEED to hear from another provider that they have seen and remember the person who used them as a referral.   I have a couple of gals that I know and trust their opinion, and I will still contact them even if they have Whitelisted the person who now wants to see me, just to make sure.   And to be honest, sometimes I have not gotten back a good answer, so I end up being glad I checked.

However, that being said, sometimes someone has a lot of Whitelistings, like maybe 5-10 of them.  When I see that and I see that the gals that have Whitelisted this person have several reviews/are well known/have been around for a while and I know some of them, then I can take the Whitelisting as a bigger factor and I feel much more at ease about seeing the person without needing to hear back from another provider.   Its always helpful to me to see a Whitelisting from well-known providers.

I'm not so hot on using employment.  I think back to a Seinfeld episode when George gave the employer Jerry's phone number and told them it was Vandalay Industries and Kramer ended up picking up the phone.   If you watch Seinfeld then you know what I'm referring to, I won't describe the entire skit.  

Its just that anyone can have a business these days.  All you need is a website and a phone number and you have a "business."   What I'm concerned with was whether or not this person was a gentleman when he arrived to see another provider and whether or not he was legit.  I don't care that he has a job.  As a matter of fact, I have seen several people who are now retired and several people who don't specifically have an employer for me to call, so it wouldn't help anyway.

Every girl is different in what she needs to feel comfortable with seeing someone new and, as far as screening is concerned, its great that we have several options to choose from.   The best thing you can do is be super pleasant and patient while the process happens.  And if she comes back and needs more information from you, it goes a long way when you are super nice and understanding about it.

Now to the fact that some of my sisters are not as helpful as I know they could be with providing referrals.  We are not all like that and its just a matter of finding good quality providers.  I don't want one or two gals spoiling the bunch here.  I encourage everyone who comes to see me to use me as a reference for them because I answer quickly once I'm contacted by the provider, especially when I had a hard time contacting the provider they gave me for their reference.  This is not a industry where jealousy has a place, in my opinion, and we should all be willing to share with one another...hell, that's what this hobby is all about, isn't it?  

So, I know that doesn't make anyone's life any easier in terms of actually getting through the screening process, but at least you know a little bit about it from the other side of things.   We are all just after safety.

I always say that the kind of girl who takes precautions in the screening process is the kind of girl you can feel comfortable about seeing because she is responsible and safe.

Hope that helps...man, that was long-winded!!!!


Thanks for your post!  I completely understand your perspective.   I also agree with you that your safety and comfort are important aspects of the hobby.  I appreciate you offering your thoughts as I really have no idea of what it is like on your side of the equation.  I am just looking for advice on how to be the guy that you would be comfortable with.  Thanks again!

Alessarossi -- You displayed so much brains, beauty and class!! I'll hope to meet you, after I fulfill my promises to several provi (I'm a promising ole man ;-)
Both provi and hobbi can't be too cautious.
If you go to Legal Corner and see recent post entitled, "Arrested, now what?", you'll see a poor provi who let her guard down just once, and got into trouble.
As for jealous sisters who do not respond to referral queries, in my limited experience, 3 out of 10 ignored referral query. One booker was explicit and said that she did not answer referral call because she needed to "protect" her girls. She is the mamasan type. The others might be too busy and were derelict.

I can understand your frustration the same as the lady who wants clients but has no reviews everyone has to start somewhere.My suggestion and I know you said you are not too wild about the idea would be to sign up with P411.Many gentleman have had this same issue as you usually posted on the newbie board but P411 has worked out well for them.Once you are signed up you can begin to search for ladies in your area also you can narrow your search to "newbie friendly providers".After seeing the ladies you could request an okay from them so for the next lady you contact you can reference that you are a P411 member with okays.This also works for Date-Check as well.There are also other options as other replies have posted you could provide your employment info to verify but I would only recommend this if you are comfortable with this method.While,I do ask for references I also accept Date-Check or P411 members the problem with the white listing is like you said some gents only have a few or none.Now,if a gentleman contacts me and he is a VIP TER member with plenty of board presence,reviews,and whitelistings depending on the gent I will check this info and all is good.

Every lady has their own specific way of screening and what she request to set up an appointment.I would also do a search of for this topic on the newbie board there have many discussions regarding this topic.While a catch 22 us ladies need to be safe and comfortable which then allows us to provide the best service to you guys.So,again I would consider taking another glance at the verification sites because they are here to help us ladies out as much as the gentleman it also saves a lot of time.
Good luck to you be patient all good things come to those who wait!

Thanks for taking the time to offer your advice and explain it from your side of the fence.  It is a little comforting to see that both providers and other hobbyists may experience this.  For a while there I thought I was the only one.  Thanks again for your hep!   It is greatly appreciated.

All of which is why the TER community is rapidly becoming a forum for 30 or so providers who see the same 30 or so "hobbyists."

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