How can I review k-girls and not risk getting banned for giving my honest opinion? I tend not to review because of that worry. Most truly have been 8's and 9's in appearance, but I've had several that I would rate a 7 in performance.

Making sure not to exactly describe his session in his review seems to throw off the scent.

Seems to work for him and makes sense to me.

Sadly for me, having an ex kgirl provider girlfriend resulted in everyone knowing my id. So dont date a kgirl provider!!

Have a good, professional rapport with the bookers. I feel that if you are honest in your reviews, it will ultimately benefit the bookers and the girls.

Understandably, no girl wants to hear they are sub par and I am sure that many gents do not want to do that either. For me, the only time i would give a bad review is in service.

I think that most guys would agree that the girls from the reputable bookers work hard (too hard sometimes) and they earn every penny and great reviews received.

With all the hobbying I have done so far, I have only gotten one bad session so far and wrote about it. If I have a great session, I will definitely let the booker know as well with any bad session. I think all the bookers know my handle but in the long run, I think that if they know that I am a dependable client who is good to the girls my opinion and business is worth something to them........(I hope....kekeke) =). So in short.....

Be honest, be professional, and be courteous.



Beemer

Not to be a douche and hope you can take some constructive criticism, but why do you always have to state that you have ex kgirl provider girlfriends? I really don't think anyone cares except you. I hope that doesnt sound antagonistic but seriously....no one believes you anyway...

Beemer being nice.

Posted By: Hyori

Making sure not to exactly describe his session in his review seems to throw off the scent.

Seems to work for him and makes sense to me.

Sadly for me, having an ex kgirl provider girlfriend resulted in everyone knowing my id. So dont date a kgirl provider!!

Heck..you might be right and im full of shit.  Believe what you want.  Free country.

I actually like you and those geezers who think they know it all. fun reads especially when they attack me.  Those guys are harmless since they dont really know anything.

Well dude happy hobbying.  Maybe oneday you will really learn some stuff and see my side of view.

You talk but have nothing to say .B310 is spot on ,but what adds insult to injury is your are a misogynist who revels in both treating the providers as trophies/ objects and even worse slandering a K-doll with  200 plus reviews ( who would never give you the of day for love or  money ) without any evidence. You are a morally bunkruptb disagreeable little man who should neither be seen or heard off.  

Just don't review the bad ones. Truthfully, there aren't many "bad ones" to speak of among the k-girls, but there are a few now and then. No reason to publicly embarrass them. Just let the booker know privately. That way you don't impact their business in a negative way, and you don't take the risk of being banned by an angry booker. It's just not worth the risk, IMO.

Good reviews are helpful -- and a lack of reviews will, eventually, speak louder than words.

Have you ever thought that he really knows what he is talking when it comes to K-girls and has an inside track and has had a relationship with one or more of them. I think you should take him more seriously and maybe listen to his advice. I think Hyori knows what he is talking about.

I agree. I think Hyori has shared enough accurate detail to make me think he is probably telling the truth about his relationships with k-girls. I also agree that it is annoying the way he repeats the same shit over and over again.

You've dated k-girls before. OK, we get it, bro! Unless you can get ME a date with a k-girl, I don't really care to hear any more about it.

And I mean off the clock, of course!  

Don't believe everything you hear. ANYONE can spout of stories, anyone can get into as minute detail as they want about the kgirl scene, anyone can make stuff up. Even me.

Would you trust everything I said on this board as true? Would you trust anything anyone has said on this board?


Most of the "details" he has provided can all be gleaned from previous posts / threads. Believe what you want, but throw caution to the wind...especially one using an alias..

Beems

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I dont think you are full of it..You have every right to say what you want on this board as do I. As far as not knowing anything, you also may be surprised who "knows" things...something to ponder on.

hint: An alias can only go so far before a provider mentions something in conversation...




Beemer being cryptic...(oooooh)

listen old man or kid?

first, i have nothing against Amber. i wasn't even her BF if thats whats eating at you.  i only mentioned her cause you and some other geezers mentioned how shes a sweetheart etc.  well she isn't.  why don't you ask around about her before you like you always do "assume" shes some innocent young sweet girl (which she is none of those) just because she gave you some BBBJ and said how wonderful you are and told you about herself to you and you believe everything she said.

second, i never said Judy of the twins were in fact in seattle.  if you haven't gotten senile and know who to read i said in the original post i think judy was in seattle cause there was a CV pic there that looked  like her.  and where do you get kimmy in my post?  you imagining things?  

third, how do you know the twins were in SF or OC?  cause you saw some CV or  pic there? boy we know how the pics are always real.  or because someone told you?  so you just assumed like you always do?  so unless you actually had a session with either them in those cities then shut the fuck up.  but heck maybe you did then i apologize.

thanks for another hilarious post on me.  you do realize every time you respond to me you sound like some raving whiny lunatic.

you know your rants are so childish....starting to wonder if your some senile old man or really some whiny kid...hmmm

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Would you believe a provider if they say you are the only one if they do bbfs? Would you believe a client if they say they are "clean". Would you believe the booker who says "trust me" I'm not LE, would you believe the poster who says he has done this, dated her, seen that?

I am just saying to throw caution to the wind before you start beleiving anything ANYONE says on this borad. Just some advice that's all.

Beems checking his tailpipe

Your 7 is another guys 8.....guide people to exceptional performers and also stop ripoofs and fake pictures...why put in a mediocre review on mediocre girl. smart mongeres go to the exceptional ones only. Some enjoy the risk of TOFTT.  Unless your personal insecurity demands it just reward excellence punish cheats or Rip Offs and forget the rest. If your need to punish a girl because you could have been happier is too strong to control have at it. You won't be barred from ER just considered a trogladyte by your co hobbiers. If you have issues and like hurting women there are other sites you can hurt girls on. ER is an enviroment created by sophsticated hobbiests for sophsticated hobbiest. Only dipshits score reviews between 5 and 7 because if the girl is not exceptional and is not a ripoff then ergo she must be mediocre. We don't have to tell ugly peopl they ugly unless it floats our boat just like I don't have to tell stupid people they lack basic process skills unless it floats mine.

Beemer........sweet....spotted his little need attention baggage stamp.......lets see this guy is A. unintelligent B. insecure. C. hates girls D. all of the above hmmmmmmmmmmm      D?

Exactly finally the inner guard letting the insecure know what imbeciles they are on middle reviews...report excellence and danger the middle will take care of itself...unless you insecure and a woman hater why would you EVER post a review above 5 or below 8....Bravo Crazy

I guess this really confirms your need for some English language tutoring. Forget about touring the island and focus on improving your ability to express yourself.

I think for many it's not an issue of punishing a girl.  The issue is they don't pay for their VIP Membership and the NEED to post 2 reviews a month . . . good or bad.  

of course, I can never be 100% sure that Hyori is telling the truth, just as you can never be 100% sure he is lying. So, given that, what's the sense in doubting him unless you hear something that is so totally off base that he proves himself to be a liar?

I haven't seen him do that yet. To the contrary, most of what he says -- despite the annoying attitude -- sounds plausible enough.

You just proved my point. So just because he sounds "plausible" enough, that is good enough? Unfortunately in this hobby, things like that either get you sick or in jail.

Be my guest if you feel like beleiving him but in my experience, verify first before trusting.


Beemer

What in the world are you talking about, good man? How do you make the leap from, "Yes, I think Hyori is telling the truth about dating k-girls," to "things like that either get you sick or in jail"?

What is Beems smoking these days?

“Most truly have been 8's and 9's in appearance, but I've had several that I would rate a 7 in performance.” Two different ratings?  Not inconsistent. With very girl the expectations and experience. Mostly us but occasionally them. This is a business and they are professionals. Some more  than others, but all human.  You pay your money and generally whether they like you personally or not  generally you get same professional level of service. Still never hurts to be nice. I know two long time highly rated K girls time very well. They are my “provider wife’s.” Even they have better and worse days.  Say what you think is appropriate. The idea of a review is to say what others need or should know.  I also know two bookers very well for long time. Unless you are a “problem” (for reasons other the rating) your arting average not a issue. If you gave a  7 to Lohan who averages 9s people might think you are crazy but I doubt you would get banned. Good luck. Enjoy.

OK, well, now you're just being ridiculous. By your logic, we shouldn't believe anything we read here at all. Which then begs the question - why even bother reading ANYTHING on this board, or anything on TER for that matter, if you can't believe anything that anyone says.

There are a lot of good people here and only a few bad apples. I prefer to give folks the benefit of the doubt, unless they give me a solid reason to think otherwise.

For staters I do not trust most of the reviews , I rely on respected bros and trusted bookers who value my patronage and me as a long term client over a booking with a girl who will be here for 60 or 70 days if she is so lucky and they will never see.

I do not trust, respect or relate to someone who lacks the  personal integrity and basic decency to refrain slandering others without proof especially in this case a provider who can not respond or defend her reputation. Master Hiyori revels in abusing the defenseless. Hiyori may have been a jilted wannabe but he is no gentleman .

Mrknowitall posted an ad from Seattle claiming the photos are of Twin Kimmy , when there was neither resemblance in the picture  or truth in his claim .As a matter of fact both Twins were in the Bay Area at the time.
 
Many guys here have had meaningful  friendships and romantic relationships that transcends their client / provider relationship but they do not come on the board to brag about them. So again the issue is character , from my perspective he has character deficit.

Finally he claims he uses an alias because he does not want to be identified by his ex. Fair enough but what is there to stop him pming some of his doubters and verifying it on the board through his alias.  In the words of RR " trust and verify  " or a B310 said even better verify and then trust.

To trust or not to trust boils down to character and track record.
 

If I am being ridiculous then it is what it is. BUt all I m a saying is verify then trust. In this hobby you cannot do much worse than that. If I told you that provider XXXXX does BBFS, would you believe me? Granted I have 26 reviews to my name? What if I had 100 reviews to my name?

Unless You have met me or know me outside of the hobby, would you trust me? Once again it all comes down to a matter of trust doesnt it?

Just because a guy/girl with an alias spouts of that he has dated provider XXXX or his ex is provider XXXXX does that mean it is true and you are willing to "trust" that person just becasue they have given "accurate" and "detailed" information?

On the TER page, it clearly states everything on this site should be construed as "Fantasy". Some maybe take it too far..


Beemer

OK, fair enough. I would enjoy hearing Hyori's response to that. Don't remember if he provided one back then or not.

It is certainly true that he hurls insults far too often, but that's par for the course on these boards. The lack of civility is widespread, not just an issue with him. We have far too many "internet tough guys" here.

I fully agree with the Gipper on that: trust but verify. However, it only applies to matters of importance. Whether some dude has dated a k-girl or not is hardly a matter of national security. I can believe Hyori on that specific issue without it having any impact on my life whatsoever.

Now, if he were giving me actionable advice, that would be different. That would require a higher level of trust. THIS does not.

Point taken. But if he is lying about dating Kgirls then to me he can be lying about anything.
In this hobby, trust is once again a paramount issue. I feel that if that is something he maybe lying about or not wether it be actionable or not, the issue of wether he is telling the truth becomes suspect on anything.

Just my take on things.


Beemer


I understand a little white.lie is a little white lie but if it becomes consistent then it become

You sre missing the point again , we hobbyists blow hot and cold towards one another , we are big boys , we can take it and in any event no ine knows who whatever is said remains on the board. However, we have a broken record stuck on how how a provider messed up ex boy toys , why does he not give it a rest because every time he opens his mouth and slander the K -doll it shows an even uglier and misogynistic side of him a women hating woman abuser side. That trumps everything else about him . 

We also have this other broken record about provider girl or ex girlfriend , who give a damn especially as it seems to be another figment of his deprived mind. He puirile bragging and boasting is unbecoming of a preteen never mind a grown mind. 

This geezer lacks class and basic decency , we should not give him a pass when target women who could not respond to him and defend their honor.

I think it is important to always give your most accurate assessment of your session.  I've always given my honest opinion.  The girls and their managers are no fools; they know who they are and how they compare to other girls.  For the same token, a few bookers have told me that they didn't realize their girls weren't performing well and thanked me for the feedback. Some girls have improved and some have been removed as the result of our feedback.  I've never had issues with any booker because I gave a bad review.  If anything, I think I've gained enough respect from the girls and their bookers that when I mentioned my TER ID, I sometimes received extra efforts from the girls so that they can get a better review.  (Don't go out there and start using my ID now.    

I think people are missing the point of this site if they only give good reviews and hold back on the bad ones.

I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, so I hope I'm not repeating anybody.  But I never reveal my handle.  For obvious reasons, it's best to by anonymous.  If more hobbyists remained anonymous, not only would reviews be more accurate, the would be more comprehensive, because we would see reviews that are not given because of the chilling effect that causes hobbyists to not review for fear of offending a provider.  I understand that sometimes a provider demands a handle for verification, but I just say I'm not a member and so far, I have no problem getting an appointment.  That said, as noted, it's pretty easy giving high marks to k-girls because they almost always provide an exceptional service, IMHO.