Ok so ive been going out the last couple of weeks with civie kgirls and i cannot believe the money im spending versus my ex provider girlfriends ive dated in the past.  Heres an example:

Civie kgirl girlfriend: dinner: 100 drinks: 210 karoke: 80 = 390

Provider kgirl dating as girlfriend: dinner: 50 movie: 45 coffee: 25 = 120

WTF!  Its bulls**t!!!  I spend way more on the civie kgirl and i dont even have sex!!

Sorry fellas and ladies for my whining.  Just needed to vent with a rant. 다 씨발연들이아!!!!

You can't make that comparison, that's silly.  Civvie girls are civvie girls.  K-girl are professionals who are sex workers and that's how they make their money.  So of course you are getting sex with them.  That's a given, that's how you met them, as sex workers.  Civvie Korean girls are "normal" girls.  They are not going to sleep with you just because you bought them a few rounds of Soju and you took them to see Fast and Furious and got them a large popcorn.  Get some perspective.

providers differentiate sex when they work versus non work.  if your meeting as a girlfriend then they still want to be courted and stuff.  sex as a BF/GF means they are committing their personal feelings.  my ex provider girlfriends...it took me a month or more before we had sex not as a client.  

all im saying is that the courting of a provider girlfriend is way cheaper then courting a civie kgirl.

Why do you let the girl dictate the cost of the date? You choose the restaurant, the bar, etc. Choose some place cheaper. And don't waste your time on BS karaoke, unless you enjoy that yourself. It may sound counter-intuitive, but it's true: spending TOO MUCH on a date actually makes it LESS likely that you will get laid.

Why would I want to date a k-girl provider?  I just want them for sex, not a relationship.  So you're cool that she's fucking me while you are dating her?  Cool.  You are a bigger man than me!

If it's so easy to get sex on the first date, then all the providers would be out of business.

now you got me all over analyzing myself again.

i have no idea why i started dating kgirl providers.  i don't know man...you see them a couple of times and for whatever reasons they like you over the other clients and you think to yourself...hey i got some hot chick wanting to hang with me and i can bang them for free!...yeah right...then you freaking actually start caring about her.  and next thing you know you start dating and getting into a relationship.  but it never worked....cause ultimately i could never trust them.  look at the work they do....having sex..kissing..cuddling..and whether the girl wanted or not she sometimes does orgasms....im a guy so i get jealous...and it just eats away at you.  so whenever they said they are meeting some friends or not answer their phone for few hours...only thing that would pop in my head is shes screwing some regular client of hers after work etc etc..


sigh...now im trying to go back to dating a civie kgirl and quit the hobbying.  but i think im going to go broke first.   weird with civies...some of them are hot but sex is so bad.  when your used to waxed p**sys and butt and CIM and rimming.  getting none or medicore versions is just hard to not go back to dating provider girls again.   i can't do both.  hate cheaters.  a moral code of mine.  

sex is sure a pain in the ass.

peace

In regards to your comments "but it never worked....cause ultimately i could never trust them.  look at the work they do....having sex....." .    I understand that you are a bit worked up and I sympathize about the problems of civie dating - which sucks.   But I cant agree with the comment about "trust" and the assumptions behind it.

I am sure the lovely ladies on this site will correct me if I am wrong, but if they can separate out their professional lives from their private lives - why cant you ......why cant any man here?

I have never had a private relationship with a provider - but surely its the same as any relationship ?  You take the complete package or you dont.  That can include accepting her family, her friends, her nasty temper, her cat/dog/lizard & all sorts of crazy things up to and including her profession.  

Seems to me that if she doesnt prejudge you for indulging in this hobby - perhaps you shouldnt prejudge her and make assumptions about her trustworthiness based solely on the profession that she is in?

Finding anybody you really connect with is difficult enough - so I suggest grab the girl who likes you and best of luck - regardless of what she does for a living.

This is one of the most stupidest posts. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you? Wow look guys, he is spending too much on dating a provider or civvie girls blah blah blah blah....does anyone believe this?

I don't really believe guys when they claim to be dating kgirl providers.  There's always something missing in the story.  Either they're just delusional...or the girl's actually just an atf that gives a little more attention and that's it.  You never have a guy actually say who these so called kgirl provider girlfirends are.

And what would you and who know how many other guys do if one of these guys named his so called kgirl provider girlfriend - ask her if it's true next time you go visit?  These guys may or may not be bullshitting, but unless they're stupid or vindictive, they aren't likely to name names.

Exactly. If this person is so hot and desirable with all these k-girls falling for him and what not, why is he still paying for sex?? Apparently he has a lot of ex's so he must be really stuipid for falling into the same trap over and over again.

I can't believe people always fall for these kinds of stories. The wonders of the internet.

Good point about being delusional. The k-girls do their job so well that some people start thinking that the fantasy is real and get toooo carried away.


good job buddy! You are the #1 k-girl stud....

Here here! Having your cake, or pie in this case, and eating it too! Our thread author seems a bit out of touch with reality & the backlash from the hobby.

But seriously ~ Snap out of it McFly! Definitely one of the more moronic posts I have read, but truly entertaining!

Kgirl providers can be expensive too.  Some have very expensive tastes. I think with the civie girls, your attitude and personality are king. If you spend $390 on a sexless date and are not happy about it, then that's your mistake.  Spend what you can afford and don't expect anything. A date is to have fun. If your not having fun don't do it.

Kgirl providers can be expensive too.  Some have very expensive tastes. I think with the civie girls, your attitude and personality are king. If you spend $390 on a sexless date and are not happy about it, then that's your mistake.  Spend what you can afford and don't expect anything. A date is to have fun. If your not having fun don't do it.

What guy would post on here the names of any provider they dated?

I'm sure there are others who have personal phone numbers from some Kgirls.  I must assume that they don't give out that information to just anyone.  As much as I would want to date them or at least go out with them, a couple of times, I never have.  I keep in semi-contact with one.

OK, I feel like bragging a little bit... I have a kgirl's number and we keep in touch regularly. I had the number to her iPhone when she was in L.A. and I have the number to her cellphone in Korea. We still text now via Whatsapp a few times a week. She's such a sweetheart. I don't expect anything from it, other than the excitement of chatting with a beautiful girl who I had lots of fun with when she was here.

What's my point?  Well ... If I can get a kgirl's number, then I'm sure lots of other guys have done it, and probably done much more than that! I believe the OP. I think he's just not expressing himself very clearly.

i'm also not surprised by OP.  i've never dated a "kgirl" that works in one of these apartments, but have dated a couple that work in other "working" establishments, like room salons.  And like the previous poster said, if I can do it, I know for a fact that others can too.

i don't get some of you.  

why the attacks?  my original post was just a vent and whining that i admit too.  that dating civie kgirl fobs cost more then dating a provider kgirl girlfriend in the past.   you nonkoreans will never understand how the dating scene in korean culture work.  so stop bitching about something you have no clue about or will understand or experience.  just stick to dating your white or black or whatever chicks.

second, why is it hard for you to believe i had provider girlfriends?  you think none of the kgirl providers on CV have boyfriends or husbands?  you be surprised who the current girls are that have boyfriends.  some CV girls were in a relationship before starting out as providers and the boyfriend and husband stuck by them.  some even have kids.  

haven't you noticed some of the girls come and go?  you ever ask yourself how they support themselves when not working?  or how they get a car or live in their apartment?  who do you think signs their lease etc etc?  remember almost all the kgirl providers are illegal.  who do you think takes care of them?

if some of you guys don't want to believe kgirl providers have boyfriends or husbands then you can fool yourselves all you want.  probably better so you fools will leave the girl alone and stop pestering her to date you.

what the hell ru talking about. u cant even get a referral in la.  the la playground is our home turf. take your ass back to the east coast where u belong.

Hey Mr. Kimche - Don't be so possessive of your kgirls. Us white guys like to date them too! Best girlfriend I ever had was Korean. Not a provider. But damn good between the sheets. Met her in Ktown. She barely spoke a word of English. Never interrupted during football games or my favorite TV shows. Oh, man, I miss that chick!  

I'm certain some of these kgirls do date guys off the clock during their 3 months in L.A. (I'm talking about the short-timers now, of course.) Not sure I'd want to participate in that, though, because of the long hours they work and the fact that they usually only get one day off per week. What are the chances she will want to fuck on that one day off?? I'm guessing, not too good.

As for the ones who stay longer? They definitely have boyfriends / husbands / off-the-clock fuckbuddies, or whatever they call it. That's a given. I've even heard some of them (the English-speaking ones) complain about their boyfriends, just like all girls do.

I don't doubt this guy's story at all.

if u knew or know the people behind the scenes i dont think u would be asking for reference help on another thread.

you mad, bro?

look, i know reading comprehension comes hard for ajoshi's like you, but try to keep up.  i don't know the people who run the brothels, because frankly i rarely go.  but i regularly frequent other types of places like RSs and "normal" places (i.e. norebangs, clubs, etc.).

Just don't think that it's you.   You might characterize it as boyfriend girlfriend relationship....but will she?   the girls have guys doing stuff for them, even give numbers to regulars....but I think a lot of  guys delude themselves that they have something more than they do.   The girls probably have their boyfriends separate from the hangers on.