I'm amazed at how careless some guys are.  Maybe it's my experience in OC where LE is more active that gave me street sense, but everyone, no mater where they live, should avoid making it obvious what they're doing.

I've seen guys in apartment complexes knock loudly on the door, and then say in an equally loud voice "Hi, my name is Bob, are you Tiffany?".  Yikes, why not just knock on the neighbors door first and tell them you're there to see an escort.  I dated a provider for a while and she eventually had to move because some loud-mouthed client piqued the curiosity of a nosy neighbor.  That neighbor started keeping track of male visitors and finally went to the landlord.

Guys who have been around here for more than 5 years will also recall how many popular AMPs have been closed.  Of course, they can't hide the fact that they're massage parlors, but their customers didn't them help any when they talk about them on a public board to any stranger using an alias.  Or, when their behavior in the parking lot looks suspicious to outside observers.

I always assume someone could be watching and act accordingly.  That may sound paranoid, but it's kept me out of trouble, and no lady has ever had to move apartments because of my actions.

...doesn't sound very appealing, no matter how many showers and mouthwash.  I'd rather pay more and see someone who doesn't see 5+ guys a day.

Just a word to the kgirl hobbyists....please don't make yourself so obvious....Today as I was leaving an early appointment in Culver City, I see 2 guys in their cars texting on thier phones..(one parked in front of me and the other one in back of me...and 2 guys on the street. 1 guy walking towards the entrance with phone in hand typing in the key code and the other guy just waiting for the guy to finish typing in the code by standing off in the distance by the benches.


I may be over stating things but better to be safe than sorry.


For myself, I always pull over to a nearby parking lot and let the booker know that I am nearly there. They usually give me the codes before I am parked and by now, I know the codes by heart that I dont even need to look at my phone anymore. So just a word of caution to the guys out there. Don't get complacent as complacency kills and in this case can land you in trouble.

Seriously.

Happy New year all (except some of you),

Beemer

the fact that these guys were so nonchalant about their actions was glaring. Even though they weren't trying to be obvious, they were.


I have run into guys with their cell phones in hand navigating the hallways of said place before and it is sad. If I were a tenant, I would certainly get suspicious if I start seeing strange guys at every hour of the day wandering the halls..


Use your brains guys. LE certainly uses theirs and takes advantage of you not using yours.

Beemer

Beemer

Was one of the guys loitring a tall fortyish white guy?  If so u should let the girl, the booker and your hobbyists know.

I know of whom you speak. He is known to the bookers. I am always keeping an eye out for him. He uses either his real name or an alias which is "Steve" or "Steven" according to one of the girls. As discussed before, he was also at the Santa Monica pad. The girl has also mentioned that she has seen him at the neighboring building as she was into her way to work and he did not recognize her.

It wasn't him this time and I wont divulge the descriptions of any of the guys that I saw today. As I said, I could be over stating stuff but be careful nonetheless for the safety of the girls and fellow hobbyists in any case.

I may get flack for this but one of the things that bothered me was the appearance of two of the guys..I may be wrong if they were hobbyists or not but goddamn, dress cleanly and look like you can take care of yourself. These 2 guys looked absolutely slovenly! It is good you can hobby and all but use some of that money to groom yourself. I am being judgemental I know, but don't complain if a k-girl definitely wants you to take a shower or not even see you...sorry for the tangent there...


Beemer

risk , of being accused of divulging too much info,  one  of the problems is that some  facilities have several girls who despite having  10, 15. Or 20 minutes between  appointments cannot control early or late arrivals at location and you end up getting several arriving at the same time. This does not excuse those who actions or behavior attracts unnecessary attention.

Be prudent , be careful , satay safe .  

   

BigPapasan I am surprised you would not have had that figured out. High volume has it's drawbacks for the provider and John and its advantages too , to  of both them.

. . .. having a session with a new gal (who was utterly fantastic) and I could hear very loud knocking at the door.  20 seconds goes by.  Fucker rings the doorbell.  DO NOT RING THE FUCKING DOORBELL.  

If it was one of you reading this,  just so you know, I spit in your shoes as I left. Yeah, the brown slip ons, looked like a size 10.  Numbskull.

(I didn't really spit in your shoes, but next time, I will.  Fair warning.)

You fuckers sound like you all are in line waiting at the local butcher shop for your number to be called!!Plus I gotta say you all got huge huevos..willing to go in to fuck knowing all the activity outside.  Dammmm if you all see this in a designated neighborhood with lurkers waiting for their numbers to be called, you don't think neighbors and soon LE isn't gonna know about the trick pads too?  Talk about drawing unwanted attention.  How long do you think LE is gonna let this go...and don't be so naive to believe they don't know about it already.

I have never waited at the gate when seeing any of my ATF providers. I come prepared and have a plan. Some of these guys are so excited that they don't think before hand of what their visible actions can do. I agree with mr. alias here in saying that, don't be so naive into thinking people are not aware of their surroundings especially ones living there.

I have seen black and whites patrol that street frequently so punters beware. And once again, I must reiterate, some of you guys stand out so vividly by acting soo out of place it is alarming..especially in the k-girl enclaves...just my 2 cents....


Beemer

Your message is only reaching maybe 1-5% of the guys who are seeing the K girls

You can keep beating the drum here... the sound only carries just so far.

Actually I never thought of that. That is indeed a very good point.


Beemer chagrined!

I see it everywhere. The mall. The supermarket. The gas station. Everybody with their nose stuck in their iPhones. Are you sure these are hobbyists? Or perhaps just normal, everyday dumb people with smart phones wandering around the area?

Don't know about the rest of you, but I park at least a block away, only use my phone inside my car, and always walk with purpose wherever I am going. I would think any hobbyist with half a brain does the same. Yeah, I have noticed guys at the k-pads who I suspect are there for the same reason as me, but it's not because they are doing anything suspicious. It's just because they fit the profile.

Waiting and loitering right outside the door as I proceeded to leave the building.  Why can't the bookers stagger the clients properly?  I was a little perplexed and perturbed after the experience.  

I usually park far away from the building and only leave my car once I have the go ahead signal from the booker.  Thanks for posting this discussion topic.

Again, chances are, that is just some dude waiting for his buddy or his girlfriend to buzz him in. These apartment complexes are huge. They have hundreds of units. People come and go all the time for a gazillion reasons, not just our reason.

I agree with Beemer on this one, it drives me crazy seeing that kind of behavior. And I would say it is pretty easy if you know what you are looking for to reognize an un sophisticated hobbiest. I always call try and get close to the location a little early and call from a minimum of three blocks away, everything is completed in the car and the phone is not needed after that. And am adament about the surroundings. I saw a guy the other day pull up close to where I was parked looked a little odd not well groomed and certainly not in shape, just caught my eye as a possible hobbiest. He was at least 5 to 10 minutes ahead of me and I get to the door and am buzzed in who do I see at the elevator with his cell phone looking like a total ass but the same guy. I push the elevator button, which he had not pushed and he goes in first pushes a floor number which happens to be the same floor I am going to. We get out and I am thinking WTF, think is he going to the same location has the phone out acting like he has no clue, I start to go the opposite direction I am supposed to go in just to make sure we do not go to the same room at the same time. He asks me do you know where @@ number is, dah right in front of us is a sign on what direction the room numbers are. I give him directions to the room number that was familiar but lucky for me not the same number as I was going and the opposite direction. If you are to obvious it stands out like a sore thumb and I know this may not reach as many of these over anxious and naive hobbiest as it needs to. There is a proper way to do this, lets try and be more attentive. Great post Beemer.