I don't know if it's because it's such a competitive market or what but I've worked with ladies all over the country and it's definitely a bigger issue here than anyplace else I've seen. Or they respond a week after the request was made which is generally too late unless I was able to verify by other methods. I respond to reference requests very quickly even if I leave a client request until I'm by my computer to do a proper screening. It would be nice if that were the norm but unfortunately it isn't here and we end up having to do employment verification instead. It would be helpful if the gentlemen gave a heads up to the providers they are using but even that doesn't ensure a prompt response.

I think a lot of mongers in LA use reference sites like P411, so I suspect that a lot of providers view the whole reference check routine as antiquated and not worth the bother.  I get that some providers don't accept that as sufficient screening, but the attitude of a lot of mongers is that there are plenty who do.

I live in LA and it seems to be that I get about half of the reference requests I send out.  The funny thing is there are a couple very well known long time providers who are always calling me for references but they have a policy of not giving out references to anyone.  It seems to me that if you are unwilling to give out references then you should not be asking others for references either.  

...and usually the response is something akin to "I already OK'd him, why are you asking me for a reference".  Sometimes I get an all-out lecture on how they think I should use the site. I guess some ladies really only care if the person they're meeting has met other ladies. To me, that isn't enough. I've seen far too many ladies refuse to remove a reference from a client's profile who has robbed/assaulted multiple providers, using the excuse "well he was fine with me".
Because of that, I won't rely only on reference checks for screening. It takes days, if not weeks, if I ever get a response at all. Sometimes I'll get lucky and the gent will have references from providers I know are solid and quick to respond. Bonus! But 99% of the time, I rely on my other screening methods. If I had to make all of my appointments dependent on getting a reply to a reference check, I'd be very impoverished indeed.  
Happy holidays, everyone.

Funny thing is i get it in the reverse. At least half of the independent ladies will either not reply at all or take a week to do so and usually I’ve moved on. So I feel ya.  
I’ve times where I make contact nd send references and 5 days later I get a reply “ok when do you want to see me?” And I’ll usually say yesterday, have a lovely day

I'm so sorry to hear that is happening to so many of you on here! That's really awful, especially since it's such an important way to ensure a proper screening process, which keeps everyone safe and feeling comfortable. I too, always request reference info, even with P411 'okay's' and TER whitelists. Hopefully those providers that have been slow to respond or don't respond at all will see this thread and get better about it. Have a wonderful week everyone!

I don't know if this is common practice or just an isolated incident, but I've had a Booker and a couple of other Providers tell me they would only give a reference if I saw the Provider at least 2 to 3 times.  WTF, practically sounded like Blackmail!

Same here! I have had many providers I have reached out to just to double check on someone they have ok'd and I end up getting a snarky rude remark back like, "I already ok'd them so why are you messaging me to verify?" Well, for one I like to double check everything just to be on the safe side. But mainly it is to find out a little more about the client. For example, the client may have specific fetishes that the provider I am reaching out to is ok with but other girls might not be and that to me is pertinent information I'd like to know ahead of time so there are no surprises when I meet with the client for the first time. I also appreciate when the references I reach out to go the extra mile and briefly describe any worth mentioning behaviors, characteristics, or disabilities so I am prepared when I see them. We're all trying to stay safe out there and it's nice when we can all look out for each other. So don't get upset when a fellow provider messages you for a reference you've already ok'd. Just seeing an ok on someone's profile doesn't tell me anything other than that your session with them was ok for you.

I joined P 411 for a reason, and that reason is to make it "easy" to book with providers. If you ladies can't get your shit together and find a way to share information without making me "work" for an appointment. I and many like me are simply going to see the women who have found a way to make the system work.

When I first began escorting in LA, it seemed there was a high level of camaraderie amongst the local providers and lots of social events happening.... it now feels like there's less of a sense of community and just a lot of competition amongst individuals and factions... and LA folks can be SUPER flaky. (FWIW, I have found the same to be true in NYC, to some extent). I also wish there was more cooperation in LA- I do see some of that on twitter, which makes me really happy! I'm sorry you're experiencing this and hope it changes in the future...

Every time I visit I have this problem so I screen other ways

Name them blondie...

Some men will use me as a reference still even though I met them 1-2 years ago and they've had 20 or so ladies who have sent me a reference request. I can only give the okay for so long before I think it's time for them to use another one of the many ladies they have recently seen as a reference.

I can yell you privately. It don't want to out them publically.

Harlow is one of the good ones in la.  She always responds to reference requests.  I now this because I hard e personally asked her for references ma t times

I have had a few guys I have seen only once keep using me as a reference everytime they wanted to see another provider.   I know some ladies who have policies like you can only use her as a reference if you have seen her in the last six months.  I know one provider who will give you two references and then you have to see her agsin before she will let you use her as a reference again.

AUTOMATIC CREDITABLY... Ms. Gina runs a tight ship and P411's the 'Gold Standard' of all verification sites, when booking it saves $Time$ because it allows me to bypass checking references while maintaining Clients anonymity.  One issue regarding Providers, I HATE being contacted when they see I've given an 'Okay' it is as if their questioning MY Credibility.

Not just p411, but HX as well.

the fault of the customer, not the provider, IMO.  Responding is extra OTC work for the provider, so what incentive does she have to make the effort for a guy that was "one and done" with her?

that you're using her as a reference.
I personally do not keep client records (Im independent) so if I've seen the person only once, and it wasn't recent a reminder helps me help you!!
If Im contacted for a reference and Im not 100% sure, then I'll ask them to ask the client to help me recall who they are, but honestly It feels awkward to have a provider tell me "he says he _______  _________"  I'd rather the client ask me and remind me first (usually it's easier to recall who they are if the communication is there) That doesn't mean I won't help if Im able to.  
p411 is really the most effective way..or whitelist.   more efficient on both ends.  

If I don't know a provider, i don't ask for a reference.  

LA is difficult to verify references. I know of some girls that only screen via work vs references due to the lack of response. Although verification of work information  may be desireable at times, I have heard of many men out there that have no problem giving their ID and work information yet have no problem behaving badly during the appointment. These are the “first timers” that pull the same crap over and over again, making it difficult for providers wanting to accept only work information. This creates an unsafe community for us all

Personally I do give references... I save just about every message text and etc.... It allows me to cross reference the notes I leave on each saved contact and it tells the time and date of meeting.  I am reference friendly.

I know I have done this!  
I apologize to any providers who did not receive a reply for a reference. I'd like for it to be very rare, but I have had stretches of time where I simply could not even look in my emails. I cringe when I see a provider may have been waiting on me. It does help to know in the subject line how quickly you need it.

How awful!

I second your motion for a heaux tribunal! Or any sort of organizational/power-in-numbers-type get together!  

I noticed some ladies would respond promptly to reference requests on occasion, and other times not at all.  Recently, I saw a Twitter post of a lady who said that her not answering a reference request should be taken as a her answer.  Some just don’t want to say anything negative.    I think a lot of ladies use this system. Especially in LA.  I’d have 3 girls answer right away and say positive things on a guy.  Or I’d hear crickets.  Then I’d ask him for more references and send out MORE requests.   And get zero responses.   It makes more sense to me now.

Yes silent response can be bad news  
And loong time ago I learn this about LA in hardest way ..
...But I think We should not be afraid to say " negative thing or THE TRUTH

Bahahahahaha, 'stop calling me because you want money.'

Was stone cold sober, i rarely drink  Of course it wasn't meant for you, my post is quite clear on that, just made a boo boo on which post i replied to.

@VioletBeaufort
I continue to use you as a reference simply out of respect for how great you were when we met, despite it being a little while back.

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Yes, this happens to me a lot!  I'm here in LA and it's been a problem.  There have been times where I've scheduled appointments, and on the day of meeting, just hours before when we are supposed to meet, the provider says that she never got a response from any of the providers.  We were so frustrated, the provider took a chance and made an exception to meet me.  

The reference thing is a pia just like other guys have mentioned ,we don't want to give out our personal info all over town, if you ladies can't figure out how to check if where cool or not by one of the self referencing sites like p411 or Hx your off the Tdl .Refs aren't needed in LA to have fun (probably why most gals don't bother),HX is the best thing out there for guys & girls if you use it correctly same with P411 ,i hate ladies that are on p411 & still ask for refs .

I travel all over Ca and often have this problem. I would say half the reference request I send out are never responded to and I put my name and site I advertise on in text so they can check me out. I don’t know why, if there busy and after a couple hours no longer think it’s relevent. It sucks there’s been many times I missed out on meeting someone because I can’t get them verified.
I joined TER & Preferred411 hoping that being contacted by prescreened gentleman & Gentlemen with reviews would make contracting with new friends easier