So, I have been reading on the various boards that so and so gent got ripped off, no-showed, lousy time, etc etc etc.  I just don't understand why this happens so much.

I have been a hobbiest for 15 years.  I have seen my share of different ladies (maybe 125).  And not once have I ever been ripped off, no showed, or had a lousy time.  Have some times been better than others?  Of course.  Has a lady been late?  Of course.  Have I been cancelled on?  Of course (a cancellation is not a no show).  But the ladies being late and the cancellations have been few and far between.  

I can honestly say that I have never regretted seeing any of the ladies in my time.  Many I have seen only once and would never see again.  But they all delivered at least the basics.  Many ladies have gone way and above the call of duty.  And always, that is appreciated.  However, I do my homework.  If I cam going to spend my hard earned money, I want to make damn sure I won't be wasting it.  So, I never see a lady that has not been reviewed or has not been recommend by a hobbiest that I know and trust.  One of those things must occur.  I also insist on talking to a lady at least once via phone b4 seeing her.  Not for long, no more than 5 minutes.

I am not as active as I used to be, so I rarely see new ladies.  But there are ones I still wish to see (Kylie Hunter, u out there?).  And I won't change my process one bit.

Ok gents, go ahead and flame away.

Bon

Far too much bitching about stuff. Good intel though helps in the selection process though. Let's make this place nicer.

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i cam what i cam, and that's all that i cam.

but seriously, bond makes quite a few good points.  if a guy does his homework, figures out what he likes and does the research to find the ladies that provide what he likes (research including communicaiton w/said lady) there should be no problems.

i haven't been as lucky as bond; in the beginning of my hobby years i had a few no-shows.  but i've never been ripped off;  a few times when i've made dates w/ladies that didn't have the requisite amount of reviews, we both walked away from the date, with no services or money exchanged.  that's a wash in my book, and nothing to harangue the ladies in general for.

put some effort into finding the right girls and you will be amply rewarded. use ter, don't be afraid to pm some guys who have seen the girl you might be interested in;  above all don't be afraid to ask the girls you get along with for recommendations of their friends that might like your style.

i have very few regrets in my hobby times;  usually any regrets i have come down to my not paying attention to red flags that jumped up early in the process, and these times are history now; i've learned how to find what i need.

every girl i've seen is a delight.  tho i'm not as proficient as bond, i am probably just as happy.

: )

/Flame On  
/rubs his hands together with maniacal glee
*tries to think of something to argue with*

You started a sentence with a preposition! And... and... and...ya...

/sigh  
/Flame Off

Have to agree, I've not been as prolific as you, but I've not experienced many issues either.  

Ranting on the board should be reserved for something more serious than it didn't go well - she/they are LE, they posted your private information for the world to see, they stole your kidney and you miss it etc.  

If instead you have a reasonable issue, then a responsible person would consider whether it was worth discussing and if so, they should put it in a review, that's what they are there for.  Please don't waste my time with rage reviews.

When someone chooses to go crazy and post/review in an angry way, it actually tends to make me believe that they probably deserved what they got, and that I should probably ignore whatever they have to say in the future.

Since I started in 2002 I've had ONE No-show out of countless extraordinary experiences, friendships and epiphanies.

As I said in my rare post above, there are a lot of real douch bags here that just love to complain about the hobby and seemingly go out of their way to create drama for the board.  I think they bring that shit upon themselves - whether its karma or some kind of mental issue about women, I don't know, but it sure seems self inflicted.

My self, I had one bad experience, that was totally my fault.  It was a mistake I made because of overt horniness, plain and simple and I broke protocol.  I'm pretty lucky now.  I haven't needed any real screening in quite a while and only see girls that have been recommended by other girls who are regulars or the occasional PM from a fellow hobbyist with similar tastes.  But really, I tend to repeat with favorites because its so much easier that way.  There was this thing called a meet and greet that was very handy and virtually fool proof.  You may recall those.

END OF MESSAGE

But my point is why not?  This isn't rocket science.

Let's face it,  some people are just impossible to please. If you're in business you know what I'm talking about. Some people are just lazy, don't take the time to research, but evidently have the time to complain and write reviews. Other than a surprise here and there, I'd say most of my sessions have been enjoyable or better

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Your right.  You need to treat it like a business appointment.   Would you be late for that?  Also you have to treat these ladies with respect and comfort.   If you do that, they will want you coming back and giving you great references.

I posted on a similarly themed post a couple of days ago. I misspoke, saying I had had no negative experiences, but then today, I was reminded of a nc/ns. It was early on in my hobby experience and I've learned to do my homework more thoroughly since, and have had nothing but positive experiences since then. I've seen three patterns in the complainers, in the past, so I'm not speaking about anyone presently, since I have not been following this board recently. The first, it seems by their reviews, they really don't seem to like women much at all. They consistently review top-notch providers significantly lower than the other guys. The second group seem to be trying to be hunting for bargains; bargain prices for top of the line service. The third, the hormones are raging and they are looking for the first available lady they can hook up with.

You summed it up pretty well. It does seem the longer you hobby the fewer new ladies you see. As you said it is better to spend your money on a sure thing. I have had a no show or two (not a cancellation) but it is rare. Had the up sell all is a little unsettling so I stick to regulars. And when I see an old friend I have not seen in a long time I wonder why I waited so long

The reason why is that people generally come from different backgrounds, are of different races, have different beliefs, etc. So, people in general are not living the life of Bond. Now, if your ultimate point is "Why air dirty Landry here since everyone has their own problems?"; then I agree with you. If you run into an issue; now you know; time to move on. The business is generally positive. Anyway, is this where I add "This is not rocket science" clause to add a feel to my post?

I am still anxiously awaiting our date... Xoxo

Bond, as usual, you've made a thoughtful contribution.

I too have more years of hobbying experience than I care to acknowledge, and have been fortunate to avoid many of the problems reported in these forums.  While some of these problems are certainly attributable to the provider side of the business (and resources like TER are very useful in steering away from them), I agree with Bond's implied point that more often than not disappointments are properly laid at the feet of the consumer.  As consumers, we have to exercise the same discipline in the hobby that we do in any other facet of our lives as buyers of services.  When you get your car repaired, or your home painted, you check out the provider, ask around for references, compare prices and services.  When hobbying, if you don't do likewise, cavet emptor.

Another factor, I'm sad to observe, is that some hobbiests don't respect providers, even though they provide services we value greatly and for which we are willing to pay dearly.  If you don't respect the people with whom you deal, more often than not they are not going to respect you.

All consumers sometimes behave impulsively and unwisely.  Because the fiscal and emotional stakes in the hobby are fairly high, when things go awry, the pain is deeper, and the cry louder.

where everyone's a critic and determined to dump crap on someone.  but mostly, it's a mellow, enjoyable scene.

I completely agree with Mr. Bond. This is a great post. I follow many of the same guidelines mentioned, and I admit in the 15 years I've been around these parts, I've never been ripped off either. Yes, some experiences have been better than others, but all have been memorable to say the least, and I have made some lifelong friends and met some amazing, classy, beautiful, and highly intelligent women. (I am eager to book an appointment with Ms. Hunter as well!)
Well done, Mr. Bond. You are obviously a class act yourself. Bravo.

In the last week I've had three "Providers " and I use that term loosely to describe these 3.
First one - Brought her boyfriend who kept coming up to the door and Whining " NI K K I . . " then she bolts with the 300 roses after a few minutes of small talk.  So they were thieves.  
Number 2 - This one's booker calls LE and makes a false report I end up with 9 cops red and blue lights flashing, guns drawn, lookin' at me and askin "who's your girlfriend?"    
#3 - This one after the roses and a Benji tip says " I only do hand jobs" She showed up, NO raincoat. NO KY.  REALLY ??? !!!!!   OMG  These experiences are making me extremely wary of ANY WOMAN!!!

Jonathan