Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on the pros and cons on being the last client of the evening for a k-girl? If anyone has any experience on it please enlighten me. If your a regular do you get a little bit more leeway as far as being over? I understand the girl wants to end her day but if you click you think there would be a little "extra" or is that a pipe dream? Just wondering because hobbying time is gonna change due to work schedule so evening times are gonna be my sweet spots for a bit.

My guess would be that it probably depends if you are a regular or not.   I have had times when I was the last and we ended up spending the night in the apartment.  Other times (when I never met the girl before) performance was lackluster and it seemed like she just wanted to go through the motions.

But the real question is would you really want to be the last knowning what she's been doing for the last 12 hours.

that is the worst possible time to schedule an appointment.  A job is a job.  If you from work 9 to 6 -- no matter how much you might love your job -- how effective are you at 5:30?

Depends on the girl.  Last one I saw at the end of her day, she gave me a terrific massage and so my session went 90 minutes, but I've seen her several times so we have a rapport.  But I recall a different girl I saw late and she was so tired the session was less than stellar.  Its also an inconsistent thing with being the first of the day.  Sometimes a girl is just not put together.  Not ready, still half asleep, etc.  But then being first she's well rested, she's tight and ready to rock! Completely depends on the gal.

I can't recall ever being last person of the day however if I were I would be mindful that young lady had a long day and still has to clean up after I leave and I would not wish to prolong her day.

You can book 2 hours orn 90 minutes if you wish to stay longer that way you get your extra time without depriving the lady from  being compensated for her time.I do that on a regular basis  especially if I drive more than  an hour from LA.  

I personally prefer late afternoon or  early evening rendevouz  because it helps  me put the work day behind me and unwind for the evening .

 

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I was thinking the same. Mileage will vary but if your a regular just maybe you might get that extra something ...who knows...but hoping this session will be good at least..

The main pro is that you're less likely to be hurried out the door to make way for the next monger.  The main con would be that by the time it's your turn the girl you're seeing might be worn down. I think the rest just depends on how well you get along with the girl.
If it's important to you for her to be really active during your session, then you may like it less.  If you'd rather feel unrushed, and prefer her to perform more on the sensual side and not like a bj-and-f machine, then you may like it more.  Extra time might not be happen though even if you click. As far as I can tell, k-girl roommates (or those who's pad is in the same building with another pad provided by the same owner even) leave work at the end of the day together, so you'd be holding up the show for no extra dough if she let you linger. A girl who works for herself might be more amenable to overtime. Either way, if you really click, my experience is that you can get extra time any time of day so long as you're not displacing a paying customer.
Another con would be that in the evenings on weekdays, the other residents of the building are more likely to be in the building rather than at work, which can make it harder to arrive and leave unnoticed.

I'm always the first of the day or very close to it.
No matter how they feel they are coming off a good night's sleep
and I've never been disappointed by lack of energy or stamina.
Maybe indy's are a little tired. They are not herded back to their
quarters where they have nothing better to do. Indy's could be partlying
while the K-girls are getting ready for the next day.
The early bird catches the worm (or gives up the worm) to a
hungry bird.

Judging by conversations I've had, the K-girls generally have free reign to do as they please on their time off, whether it's going out for dinner, dancing at a club, or sightseeing.

With that in mind, I can remember being the first of the day for one girl that I had seen several times before.  She greeted me with little to no makeup on, hair barely done and clearly hungover.  It didn't necessarily affect the session, but it was rather unprofessional.  I didn't mind so much, however, since I adored her at the time.

if she decides that your that "boyfriend" regular... then its no rules.  sleep over, take couple of hours and shower and go eat late dinner, etc.  sometimes don't pay or just pay the agency fee.

alot of kgirls have boyfriends or veteran hobbyists who are not boyfriend level but have developed that friendship to get that extra time.  something i don't recommend. why its noble being wanting to be that friend to help the girl.  the skeptic in me says its more to wanting to bang her for free and cheat on their old lady at home.  and another headache is that the friendship ends up getting that male friend involved in the business.  while it may seem exciting.. learning about the trade and such and learning about the LA kgirl scene...i think their penis blinds them to the fact that this is illegal or their ego thinks they will never get caught but once your provider girl gets busted and no doubt you...i wonder how your employer or family will think of that.

if it's better to be first or last if you really want them to let loose. First, and she is fresh, but she might not want the "big" O because she still has to work all day. Last, and she doesn't have to worry about later, but she might be so tired that she doesn't want to let go.

Not as free as you may think.
They have limits as well as not much time.

Not sure it really matter, 1st or last.  I think it's more about the chemistry between the provider and client.  Especially given the relatively reasonably low fees most Kgirls charge, it's easier just to book additional time.  Let's face it, they see more than 1 person a day, doesn't really make too much difference where in the lineup you are, if there is a "good" relationship between you and the girl, you'll generally get good and somewhat personal service.

Never heard of a hobbyist getting busted while
visiting a K-girl. It's set up too well.

hmm this post sounds cheap and petty.  are u one of those people that bargains for stuff to death or perhaps tries to weasel yourself for a bargain.  what difference does it make whether its first or last. if the girl likes u then she will treat u like a king. big freaking deal that u get an extra 15 minutes.  if u r trying to hook up with one of the girls then it would have already happened and u wouldnt be here asking how to weasel your way into getting more time with the girl.  i hear it all the time from the girls how they have to put up with fat, dirty, repulsive hobbyist in their line of work. and if u fall in that category do u think they want to spend an extra second with u even since u are the last client in her day. in their line of work no money no honey.

I realize that we've all got our quirks and preferences, but if I can't bat leadoff--or at least what I believe to be leadoff--I won't make an appointment. That's been my M.O. since I first started hobbying in the mid 90's. I almost always book multi hour appointments---in fact, I can't remember my last 1 hr appointment---so I've had countless experiences where the provider actually was kind enough to allow me to stay past our scheduled time, sometimes to an incredible degree. At this point I have to say that I see independent providers almost exclusively, and have developed a rapport and intimacy level beyond the norm with many of them, so I'm sure that's a factor in the treatment I get. This experience has cut across all racial and ethnic lines, although for the last few years my focus has been on Asian providers who aren't part of the Kgirl agency world.

A few years ago, there was an indie Korean girl here in L.A. who was immensely popular and extensively well reviewed. I had probably 5 or 6 multi hr sessions with her and went over the time limit every time. The last time I saw her, we were finishing up a close to 3 1/2 hr date and were making small talk in the bathroom with me in the shower and her squatting Asian style on her basin counter top lightly washing her kitty with a wash cloth that she occasionally rinsed under  the faucet. This was after over 3 hrs of rigorous fun with MSOG all over her body.

I couldn't help but wonder what the batters in the #2 thru 5 spots would think if they'd seen what I saw. I never saw her after that. But like I said, we all have our quirks and preferences.

THAT'S why I bat leadoff.

Well, I can say that a good "relationship" with the provider doesn't hurt. I was surprised once when I was done and the provider wanted me to stay a little longer to chit chat and go for another round which surprised me. But we had a pleasant talk nonetheless which left me feeling amazing after all the sex. And I know for sure some providers are willing to stay with a favorite regular just because. It can and does happen. Shit I'm not looking to sleepover (SO would be like what?) I'm just curious because my work schedule changed so seeing my atf would be during the evenings.I was curious is all.

Just saw my ATF today and asked her the same question.
What she told me is there no way they can give the same emotionally
at the end of the day if that's what they've been giving all day.
If they're good they give you their all and you just can't keep that up
from morning till evening. There's bound to be some drop of intensityas
well as the ability to be naturally lubricated.
She told me this 11:AM this morning after we had some of the best sex
we've ever had.

I'm not sure who the person in this discussion is  who's the target of your rage, but you need to lighten the hell up. Beemer asked a legit question that did not strike me at all as having anything to do with cheating any of the girls out of their money. And as far as insulting anybody's appearance, I haven't read anything in this discussion that indicates whether Beemer is an out of shape slob, or built like an Olympic decathlete. So tell us 'wad, how's your appearance? Let me guess, you're a cross between George Clooney and Brad Pitt with a package bigger than both of theirs combined, right?

And I suppose that if a provider isn't pushing you out the door at the time limit, you insist on leaving to preserve your honor and hers.

Have a drink. Maybe the alcohol will kill the bug that crawled up your ass, Sir Galahad.

You ask a legit question that I'd bet just about every hobbyist has wondered. Sorry I can't provide any input re agency girls, Korean or otherwise. I can only go by my experiences with the indies. Best of luck.

Remember anyone after the leadoff hitter is getting someone with
the remains of her last client on her  and in her unless she gets into
the shower with you. Leadoff hitters have the bases empty and
no outs. A clean slate. Ten O'clock at night, the bases are full and you're
bound to get into a pickle. Maybe someone else's pickle.
Buyer beware.

You hit that one outta the park EOM

i guess you can't detect the hypothetical sarcasm in this message. "and if u fall in that category do u think they want to spend an extra second with u even since u are the last client in her day."  no where in that message did i "state" beemer was overloaded with repulsiveness.  no where was i commenting on the issue of cheating the girl out of "money".  please refer back to original post in regards specifically about "weaseling" more time spent with the girl.  by the way what made you assume i was a "cracker" e.g clooney or pitt.  package wise its measured at 5.5" erect, if you would like to know but its not about the size. its about the distance it can spit.  hey i get the cue when it comes to the second shower, i am not there to drag on their day especially if i'm the last client.  and by the way i usually do have a pretty good rapport with the girl.

First of all, I asked a simple question, second if you read the post a little bit more closely, you would know why I am asking. What is the problem anyway? Just because my post doesnt fit into your world it becomes "cheap and petty"??? Well I guess I must apologize then. Honestly maybe it does make a difference to me if I can be the first or last, does that bother you? If I can get an extra 15 minutes, why should it bother you? Honestly, I don't know where this "Holier than thou attitude" is coming from but thanks for your opinion.

LOL! Wow thats some kinda early for me brah! lol...11am.....

Oh, so now you want to play the race card with use of the term 'cracker' as it applies to Clooney and Pitt, huh? Well let me tell you,--MY BROTHA---I'm of a generation that's not intimidated by your use of racial bullshit. Try that crap on a college campus if if you want the intimidation factor used to its full effect.

My response was rooted in your off the wall rant towards anybody that didn't agree with your suck up view of how hobbyists should consider whether it's best to be 1st of kast the day or last. Period. But, lord forbid, somebody questions you and you pull the RACE CARD! Try it somewhere else, douchebag! I'll bet that I've been in the game a lot longer than your set aside entitlement sympathizing ass has been, and I've never--not ONCE--ever seen racial prejudice intimidation rooted name calling enter into the picture.

Call Jesse or Al, and ask them for a box of Kleenex and reparations!

Why would a k-girl want to spend extra time with you?  She has just had sex with 6+ guys today, she is exhausted.  Imagine having sex with 6+ guys, and many are demanding and not cooperative.

I've had some good late night sessions before, BUT they were with providers that were not popular and not busy.  Try this with Lohan, Minnie, any high volume provider ain't gonna happen.

The girls, especially the k-girls, view this as a business.  Most of them can't have a meaningful conversation with you.  Why would they want to spend the night with you?  They also need to eat, clean the apartment, and sleep for the next day.  

hellooooooooooooo

great now u think i'm black. hey i never stated i was a "brotha" looking for racial entitlement. i guess u make a lot of assumptions. so how's that working out for u in life?  if i may clarify, u made the comment and used clooney and pitt as an example to your rebuttal to my initial post. all i did was respond back stating u were assuming i was a "cracker". i'm real pleased to see that i ruffled your wild ass hairs. please explain how u now assume me being black and deserving entitlement have to do with u "not asking what the hell i am".  thats like me assuming u were one of those scrawny little gimps that got no respect all through life and perhaps even on a "college campus". oh well, big deal as if a person like yourself is of any significance if u were to fade away one day.  lets say for your sake u hobbied longer than me. again so what, big deal.  its known as pay 4 play not servicing providers since 1959(assumption)...... anyways good nite,  hope this thread keeps u thinking and steaming.

peace out

There are exceptions. I've been held over longer when there was nobody
coming in right after me. That's been in the morning when they usually
have other clients coming in and their time is not that free.
Sometimes the K-girls really do enjoy the company of a hobbyist. It gets
awfully lonely sitting alone in that apartment waiting for someone who may, as you
say, be demanding and uncooperative. A regular who treats them nice is a
much desired relief some of the time.
P.S. Some of the girls speak fairly good English and can have a meaningful
conversation i.e. Linda who has left us recently and Sweet Mina with her touch
of an Australian accent.

I think that this is a great thread to figure out which is best. It mainly depends on the girl, her preference. You wont have the problem with the lower volume ladies who see maybe 2 people a day and are not exhausted. And it also your preference that comes into play. I agree that this is a buisness, as well as something that is fun. So, if a provider cant have a meaningful coversation then they are in the wrong buisnes. Communication, chemistry, and good conversation is all very important to me. I love early mornings and late nights! But, I am a low volume girl. However when I was very high volume I never had an issue of being exhausted. And if a girl is tired she should be respectful enough to the gentlemen, as well as themselves and not take the call. Those are my thoughts!!

amsterdam

Unfortunately the Kgirls don't have much of a choice. They are sent to
their rooms and told to wait and be ready for whatever comes their way.
I actually was told by one of the girls that she once saw as many as eleven
(that's right eleven) in one day.  Only Wonder Woman wouldn't get tired
with that kind of day. They want the money and are willing to do whatever
the managers want. And that's why I'm the first of the day.

Baby I have worked for some of the top angencies tourin NYC, Boston you name it.. And We would see at least 7-11 people a day non stop. The point bein if you cant handle it and always be 110%, then this isnt for you. I guess it depends on how much drive you have!

Going online complaining or better wok rules and conditions. Most of the ones I had the privilege to patronize do their job enthusiastically for 3 months and move on.Howver, while they are here they are cooped up for 13 or 14 hours receiving men of all shapes ,sizes ,ethnities and attitudes whom they are required like kings. The only thing worse than that is sit around in a foreign country  waiting for callers who do not show up.

K-girls serve with a welcoming smile on their face whether tou are their first or last of the day .It is a tough , thankless and even dehumanizing proffession which they practice because they want to/have to.

Over the years I have befriended and  spent mostly wonderful times, both during and out of working hours, with some of the Extended visa ladies, howevers, I can not generalize about them nor claim to be an expert on them.Each is an individual with her own issues and circumstances so the cookie cutter approach is redundant and one size does not fit all.

It is a pity we engage in discussions about these ladies and their bookers ,say what we want with the knowledge that they are not a liberty to respond. Recent posts indicate infatuation with the fantasy on one size and resentment of the realty.

Providing is a business.Yes they want good reviews and yes they can block you however that is no different than any other provider or agency. Given how inflated the rating system has become a 7 is consider a negative and I recall a highly rated American Asian posting that she considers anyone who rates her a 7 as too demanding.
Too much talk about K-girls by those who think they are in the know and by those who know nothing and in the end nothing is said or learned. My 2 cents.