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PCell1337 52 Reviews 671 reads
posted
1 / 21

I've seen several Korean providers in the past from different agencies but whenever I try to venture out into new exotic girls from other agencies I always get asked for references, I give the names/numbers of the girls I've used before and they always say they'll call me back after the ref check. I never get called back...EVER. Some of these K providers I've used several times with no problem, so why aren't they giving me a good reference? Or is it that K providers don't share info with other agencies? Someone please shine some light on that, because I am lost on what to do.

MyHonestResponse 437 reads
posted
2 / 21

If the "K providers you used" (as you put it) say that you were not a good client, that's a refernce. You are probably getting cock blocked due to your reviews.

Harpman60 511 reads
posted
3 / 21

left a good impression with those you have seen. Bookers share the feed back and other info they compile on client with each other. Your past behavior and attitude with providers determines the result of your screening. Bookers can't be too careful when it comes to the safety and well being of the girls.

BTW some of your score and tone of your  narrative seem intended to destroy carrers and end livelihoods.

Posted By: PCell1337
I've seen several Korean providers in the past from different agencies but whenever I try to venture out into new exotic girls from other agencies I always get asked for references, I give the names/numbers of the girls I've used before and they always say they'll call me back after the ref check. I never get called back...EVER. Some of these K providers I've used several times with no problem, so why aren't they giving me a good reference? Or is it that K providers don't share info with other agencies? Someone please shine some light on that, because I am lost on what to do.

PCell1337 52 Reviews 344 reads
posted
4 / 21

Posted By: Harpman60
left a good impression with those you have seen. Bookers share the feed back and other info they compile on client with each other. Your past behavior and attitude with providers determines the result of your screening. Bookers can't be too careful when it comes to the safety and well being of the girls.

BTW some of your score and tone of your  narrative seem intended to destroy carrers and end livelihoods.
Posted By: PCell1337
I've seen several Korean providers in the past from different agencies but whenever I try to venture out into new exotic girls from other agencies I always get asked for references, I give the names/numbers of the girls I've used before and they always say they'll call me back after the ref check. I never get called back...EVER. Some of these K providers I've used several times with no problem, so why aren't they giving me a good reference? Or is it that K providers don't share info with other agencies? Someone please shine some light on that, because I am lost on what to do.
Ok then WHY is it that the same bookers are always happy to have my business??? If I'm such a bad guy, or they suspect I have left bad reviews, then why can I call those same providers and get service no problem. Is anyone reading my post? I'm saying I can branch out into any NEW providers. Also, I know for a fact I'm the perfect client, I've never ever had a single problem with any provider and have always been the perfect gentlemen. There's no 'safety' issue there.

-- Modified on 1/3/2012 3:02:51 PM

PCell1337 52 Reviews 344 reads
posted
5 / 21

How can I be cockblocked due to bad reviews if the agencies still continue to accept my business with a smile. Either they should cancel me as client or let me have a good ref, I don't understand giving me a bad ref but then they still want my business at the same time. That's wack.

mufftime 270 Reviews 404 reads
posted
6 / 21

Do you really think that with some of those scores that any
booker would give you the time of day, much less an appointment?
Let's get real.

PCell1337 52 Reviews 369 reads
posted
7 / 21

Are you reading the topic at hand at all or just responding?

mufftime 270 Reviews 342 reads
posted
8 / 21

What part of "your low scores are probably keeping bookers
from responding to you"?
Sounds like the topic at hand to me.

PCell1337 52 Reviews 451 reads
posted
9 / 21

I got verified using 411 so this is no longer an issue. Apparently I wasn't getting bad refs anyway, I just forgot my number had changed so I was giving incorrect information. False alarm guys.

Beemer310 35 Reviews 339 reads
posted
10 / 21

Well....good luck...l still wouldnt approve you based on the content of your reviews and how you treat the ladies in them. My 2 cents.



Beemer

Posted By: PCell1337
I got verified using 411 so this is no longer an issue. Apparently I wasn't getting bad refs anyway, I just forgot my number had changed so I was giving incorrect information. False alarm guys.

Harpman60 312 reads
posted
11 / 21


Now don't be mean , Beemer , the bro has already said that his reviews were meant to confuse the bookers/agencies and not inform hobbyists.

Posted By: Beemer310
Well....good luck...l still wouldnt approve you based on the content of your reviews and how you treat the ladies in them. My 2 cents.



Beemer
Posted By: PCell1337
I got verified using 411 so this is no longer an issue. Apparently I wasn't getting bad refs anyway, I just forgot my number had changed so I was giving incorrect information. False alarm guys.

zorbaelgreeko 303 reads
posted
12 / 21

If I were a provider, I sure as hell would not see you based on the tone ofyour reviews. Even though you say you dont give them your TER handle etc...just as we guys back channel , so do the ladies back channel. Just by that alone I imagine they know who you are.  Even if you are verified by 411, I bet quite a few still will not see you.

Posted By: PCell1337
I got verified using 411 so this is no longer an issue. Apparently I wasn't getting bad refs anyway, I just forgot my number had changed so I was giving incorrect information. False alarm guys.

Beemer310 35 Reviews 328 reads
posted
13 / 21

To each his own I guess...I stand corrected...


Beemer

Posted By: Harpman60

Now don't be mean , Beemer , the bro has already said that his reviews were meant to confuse the bookers/agencies and not inform hobbyists.
Posted By: Beemer310
Well....good luck...l still wouldnt approve you based on the content of your reviews and how you treat the ladies in them. My 2 cents.



Beemer
Posted By: PCell1337
I got verified using 411 so this is no longer an issue. Apparently I wasn't getting bad refs anyway, I just forgot my number had changed so I was giving incorrect information. False alarm guys.

alias111 7 Reviews 337 reads
posted
14 / 21

Glad you sorted that out --- it didn't make sense to me that you were being blocked because of your reviews or anything like that ...

The only girl you reviewed that I have also seen is Choco. You gave a positive review that I thought was fair and appropriate.  

Regarding the low scores you have given to some of the other girls:  I respectfully disagree with posters who have criticized you for that. If everyone gave high scores and pleasant reviews just to please the bookers, then all of the scores would be high, and the reviews would all be worthless.  The beauty of TER is that it's an honest win-win relationship between hobbyists & providers.   So please keep writing honest reviews and letting us know when you have a session with a girl who gives poor service.

FWIW I doubt very seriously that bookers follow the reviews and note down who's naughty and who's nice. "Santa Booker" - ho ho ho.  I asked one booker for a White List referral and she told me she's not on TER at all -- but she told me her name and main phone number and said she would give a good recommendation to anyone who called her  (thanks booker!).  I doubt that bookers generally stalk hobbyists on TER and wreak vengeance on them for bad reviews. Giving TER members that impression just discourages them from writing honest reviews.

Of course there is a difference between honest reviews and harsh reviews -- it's always a good idea for everyone to gently communicate a girl's flaws without sounding mean about it.  

Beemer310 35 Reviews 324 reads
posted
15 / 21

Trust me when I say that the girls that speak very good english (and even the ones that don't), along with the bookers do read their reviews and the boards. Why wouldn't they? It is just smart business for them to. Don't underestimate the girls or their bookers. Ever.


Beemer

Posted By: alias111
Glad you sorted that out --- it didn't make sense to me that you were being blocked because of your reviews or anything like that ...

The only girl you reviewed that I have also seen is Choco. You gave a positive review that I thought was fair and appropriate.  

Regarding the low scores you have given to some of the other girls:  I respectfully disagree with posters who have criticized you for that. If everyone gave high scores and pleasant reviews just to please the bookers, then all of the scores would be high, and the reviews would all be worthless.  The beauty of TER is that it's an honest win-win relationship between hobbyists & providers.   So please keep writing honest reviews and letting us know when you have a session with a girl who gives poor service.

FWIW I doubt very seriously that bookers follow the reviews and note down who's naughty and who's nice. "Santa Booker" - ho ho ho.  I asked one booker for a White List referral and she told me she's not on TER at all -- but she told me her name and main phone number and said she would give a good recommendation to anyone who called her  (thanks booker!).  I doubt that bookers generally stalk hobbyists on TER and wreak vengeance on them for bad reviews. Giving TER members that impression just discourages them from writing honest reviews.

Of course there is a difference between honest reviews and harsh reviews -- it's always a good idea for everyone to gently communicate a girl's flaws without sounding mean about it.  

Ronn59 361 reads
posted
16 / 21

Guys, you have tried to help this guy.  He has rejected it and in denial.  He seems willing to take the chance that they won't figure him out.  Let him cut off his di*k, after all it is his.  He has nobody to blame but himself for difficulties in booking whether today or in the future.  Good luck to all, Happy New Year!

alias111 7 Reviews 266 reads
posted
17 / 21

seriously, Beemer --- and not to be argumentative ---- but if you tell everyone that they're going to be punished for writing negative reviews, aren't you just discouraging people from writing honest reviews? --- doesn't that defeat the purpose of the boards? ---- of course it's not good to take a harsh tone and flame girls --- but if reviewers can't write an honest negative review for fear of reprisal, doesn't that kill the whole point of the boards?---

It seems to me we should be encouraging reviewers to tell the truth about providers who give poor service, not scaring them into shutting up about it. --- if you really think girls are tracking down guys who gave them bad reviews, then shouldn't we just encourage guys to write negative  reviews under an alias? ....  Any guy who runs into a bad provider and doesn't post a review about it is just setting up his fellow TER members to waste their money and have a bad experience like he did.

Re your statement "don't underestimate the girls" --- I don't --  I think that overall the girls understand the TER system works in their favor just as it works in our favor ---  win-win  ----  the reviewing system drives customers away from bad providers toward the good providers. That's good for the girls & bookers who provide good service --- it allows them to make a real living out of this -- but the whole system depends on honest reviews.

Do you have any particular reason to think that PCell1337 gave a DIShonest review? That he trashed a provider who gave good service? --- I'm trying to figure out where the negativity is coming from...

mufftime 270 Reviews 329 reads
posted
18 / 21

Amen Beemer.
Who forgets his number has been changed???

Beemer310 35 Reviews 293 reads
posted
19 / 21

You have brought some very good points that have gotten me thinking. I tottaly agree that good and honest reviews are what makes TER work as an asset to us as hobbyists and to the bookers and providers. I guess my real gripe was how he described his treatment of the girl(s) in his review(s). I guess in my case it was a case of differeing opinion.

Your post actually made me think very hard about certain things that I will keep in mind from now on. Always a learning experience about the hobby! Thanks!

Beemer illuminated!

Posted By: alias111
seriously, Beemer --- and not to be argumentative ---- but if you tell everyone that they're going to be punished for writing negative reviews, aren't you just discouraging people from writing honest reviews? --- doesn't that defeat the purpose of the boards? ---- of course it's not good to take a harsh tone and flame girls --- but if reviewers can't write an honest negative review for fear of reprisal, doesn't that kill the whole point of the boards?---

It seems to me we should be encouraging reviewers to tell the truth about providers who give poor service, not scaring them into shutting up about it. --- if you really think girls are tracking down guys who gave them bad reviews, then shouldn't we just encourage guys to write negative  reviews under an alias? ....  Any guy who runs into a bad provider and doesn't post a review about it is just setting up his fellow TER members to waste their money and have a bad experience like he did.

Re your statement "don't underestimate the girls" --- I don't --  I think that overall the girls understand the TER system works in their favor just as it works in our favor ---  win-win  ----  the reviewing system drives customers away from bad providers toward the good providers. That's good for the girls & bookers who provide good service --- it allows them to make a real living out of this -- but the whole system depends on honest reviews.

Do you have any particular reason to think that PCell1337 gave a DIShonest review? That he trashed a provider who gave good service? --- I'm trying to figure out where the negativity is coming from...

rpd1952 113 Reviews 277 reads
posted
20 / 21

I don't know jack about 411, but do K-girl bookers even accept it?  

Fixing the phone number problem is probably the most important thing.  Are they now picking up the phone and allowing you to book as a result of this "fix" or do you assume they will?

alias111 7 Reviews 310 reads
posted
21 / 21

Hey, Beemer-illuminated ~~ your post made me think as well, so back atcha.  Your impulse to defend the ladies' honor is admirable, not to say gallANT ~ we know these girls' have an often difficult job ~ it's never good to be harsh or insulting ~ a little consideration goes a long way ~ the more we can gently teach them what we hope for from good providers, and the more they can teach us what they hope for from good customers, the better for everyone... cheers to the ladies every one...

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