This question is for hobbyists...

I'm curious, does a provider having her own WEBSITE increase the likelihood of you contacting her?  What about a TELEPHONE number listed on the ad?

Some girl friends and I were discussing this today and so I just wanted to throw it out there on the good ol' discussion board.

What other factors significantly contribute to whether or not you'll contact a provider?

xoxo
Lela

Not important for for the decision, but helps with more visuals.
A website is nice, but it is not a deciding factor for me.
what makes me want to see someone? plain and simple, looks.
I'm a visual man, I must find them pleasing to look at.
If I look at their pics and don't feel it, I move on.

Reviews don't hurt. Not so much what's in the review since we all have such different tastes, just that they just have a review and are the real deal.

By the way, you ARE on my favorites list.
I will be contacting you this new year.

Good pictures or a dearth of them is the deal breaker for me.

I enjoy dinner dates.  A provider being active on the boards helps me assess personality and other intangibles which make longer sessions more enjoyable.

Also, a long history of board activity helps convince me that a provider is reputable and professional.  Makes me feel more comfortable.

1. Hot & accurate photos, of course, are the most important factor. (70% of the game.)

2. Height, weight, ethnicity, etc, clearly listed on ad or website. Location, too, if you have a regular incall. The importance of geographic convenience can't be underestimated. West LA, Mid Wilshire, DTLA - very general, but important to know. (10%)

3. Good reviews. Consistent 8s or higher. (10%) Some would rank this higher, but I don't. There are just too many glowing reviews for ladies who turn out to be average.

4. Having your own web site with many photos is a definite plus, but not necessary. (5%)

5. Participation on the boards. (5%) Again, nice but not necessary and can actually cost you some business if you say dumb things and piss people off. Best to be positive & friendly at all times and avoid the crazy arguments that break out here from time to time. Stay above the fray

I like seeing a website and maybe a blog, for me I do like to know a little bit about the provider..and the more photos the better.  I prefer initial contact and screening via email so don't need a phone number. Photos and reviews are what peak my interest.  You are definitely on the top of my 2013 list!

It's good to hear there are persons who don't let the presence of a website significantly influence their decision.  I am, indeed, having a lot of fun creating my website, yet thankful that I do get some inquiries despite my not having one up & running yet.  

Thank You so much for taking the time to respond... and for letting me know that I made your "list"  

Wish you an abundance of happiness this year

xoxo
Lela

Thanks for your response!  You made an excellent point about being able  to begin assessing one's personality via discussion board activity.  I, myself, have been shocked by some of the posts I see ladies sharing on this site--some are very unprofessional, and some simply trashy.  

Thanks again for your input!  Much appreciated

Wishing you the BEST this year

xoxo
Lela

Like KGirlCrazy's list, for me it's a combination of factors that get me to call.  It also depends on the site I'm searching on.   A good post on TER or conversation in the chat room will get me to check reviews and do more research.  On 'the site that will not be names', I go off the photos and then the reviews.  

Generally though:

First and formost it's the photos.   We all have the types of girls that turn us on, and if the girl has that look that'll get me to look closer at her (literally).

Second it's services and reviews.  I like that a lot of providers are listing thru p411 as well as TER now as it makes it very easy to see if they're interested in the same stuff as I am.  TER and the VIP reviews are great for that too, but I don't always keep my VIP up to date.   (I know... shame on me).

Third, it's price.  Unfortunately, I do have to live on a budget... like we all do I suppose.   And I have an upper limit of what I feel I can spend on the hobby.   Unfortunately for me, my preferences are getting more expensive lately.  

Fourth, it's location.   It's LA... you have to drive everywhere, and usually in traffic.  I have specific times I can make plans with a provider and usually they revolve around the work day.   If I can't make it work on time, or back from 'lunch' in a reasonable time, I can't make plans.

And like someone else posted... you are on my wish list for year as well.  Your latest video pushed me right over the edge!

Thanks for your response!  First let me just say I love how you broke down each factor by how significantly it contributes to your decision.  I am also very pleased to see that some gentlemen have a more realistic perception of reviews--knowing that some reviews leave "average" providers seemingly overrated, and simply that men have different tastes.  I suppose everyone's experience is different.  As are our reasons for being part of this secret culture

Thank goddess I haven't noticed much of the arguments and board-post-bickering.  I suppose I'm still relatively new, and perhaps Ill encounter more of this in the future....

Thanks again!

xoxo
Lela

Thank You for your response!  I like your suggestion of keeping a blog.  I see how this would be more helpful in getting to know the provider than, say, details in the ad and/or board posts.

I'm so grateful to know I'm on the top of your "list"

xoxo
Lela

And of course not using photos of other people.  Or if you do, maybe actually say they are not you, but representative of you...

I hate when reviewers say the photos are real and I get there and they're not even close

What a shame that this is a common experience in this culture of ours---fake photos & disappointed hobbyists.  Perhaps of even greater disappointment is the fact that some reviewers are falsely describing the photographs as real.  Hmm... perhaps they really do think the photographs are genuine.  

I have yet to see a provider admitting that her photos aren't real, but representative.... however I think this is a great idea.

xoxo
Lela

As others have said, pics are a primary factor.  However, for me that's just the beginning.  I actually read people's reviews.  Not for the numbers per se, but for the overall picture of what an experience with that provider might be like.  A website can be helpful if it provides that type of information, but is not necessary.  Finally, maybe it's just me I want to know what a provider's donation is . . . I don't want to have to contact them to find out.

Like everyone else said, photos are very important and more importantly when they are recent and up to date.  The video is a nice touch. icing on the cake!  I wish more ladies would post videos like that on their ads.  They are not only pleasant to watch, they make the girls more real.

I'm so glad that you enjoy taking the time to watch girls' videos!  Also, I like the way you described how they can "make the girls more real."

I am very fortunate to work with an amazing photo-/filmographer who puts up with my frequent updates!!

Thanks for your input

xoxo
Lela

Reviews first (not just for services, but for safety), Services (not interested if no DFK), Photos (because one man's floor is another man's ceiling).

1) TER ad posts - If you're calling attention to yourself, we'll notice. Unless I'm browsing new reviews or otherwise actively searching for new listings, this is where I start. Pay attention to how it's written too...if I get a sense of personality in them that meshes with mine, so much the better.
2) Good reviews that meet my minimum criteria - If DFK and BBBJCIM aren't on the menu, unless the price point is right or the lady is just TOO gorgeous, I usually pass. If the reviews are great, and are by hobbyists whose tastes I find agree with mine, that's an added plus.
3) Good pictures - Deal make or breaker. Gotta be good and show you off to your best advantage. Pick your best pic and include it in your TER weekly ad
4) Price point - hate to bring up the "business" side, but it is important.
5) TER activity on the boards...don't have to post every day or be particularly provocative, but if your name and personality are familiar and come through, it helps a lot.

Edited to add...

7) Ease of contact. I don't necessarily need a full-blown website, although it's nice and a great marketing tool, but I need an easy way to reach you that I can reliably trust you'll actually receive. I personally prefer texts/emails for initial contact rather than a phone call, but ultimately, it doesn't matter, as long as the contact process is fairly straightforward.

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1-nice pictures to get my attention.
2- TER reviews is where I go next. (no good reviews, no intrest)
3-Prompt reply to e mail.
also important is the way you reply. If I have taken the time to send a nice e mail request, replying back with just one word is a deal breaker for me (with some exceptions)

The experienced guy sifts through the reviews where he already has a prescreened list (which usually is a certain amount for looks and performance (I set it at 8 minnimum for looks and 6 for performance).  Pictures are important, but I'd probably won't even bother looking at pics of an unreviewed girl (probably an ROB).   Guys also give considerable weight to who's reviewing.  If the girl has a series of guys with one review that was just registered, it looks fishy.  Also, certain reviewers aren't as trusted because they give unusually high scores to some who usually get lower scores (either a shill or just has bad tastes).... or a wall of 10/10 reviews smacks of someone gaming the system.   It's also not just the scores...it's the content of the reviews, if the reviews keep mentioning the girl is really pretty, or she has a great personality or she's great in bed...those always stick out.    Service also affects the scores and reputation.  I've noticed that the girls with great personalities and service usually get an extra bump in the looks department with smitten guys giving them a boost.   Some girls who have been extremely pretty, but more reserved, seem to put off guys and get some points deducted (which I think is inaccurate but seems to be the trend).  You'd be surpised at how far a little extra talking or girlfriend touches affects guys.   Some girls have so much game that they practically have guys wrapped around their finger and quite a huge following (guys you know who I'm talking about. )

I do admit that glossy sexy pictures do make a big difference.   The ones you see on backpages with the girl who shot the picture with her cell phones are usually a skip.  It looks cheap and hints that the girl might be unprofessional   And, I hate the arty black and white photos....   Sexy photos that show a lot of skin are great... or sexy photos like the cut off tank top or whatever that outfit Jennifer Beal wore in Flashdance.   The more professional photos the better.   But, it's not necessary to put music (which actually annoys guys) or make the site hard to load with crazy graphics.   Just very pretty photos.   Oh, also as far as blurring the face...blur it just enough to show the outlines of the face... if I can kind of tell the girl's really pretty, I usually call right away.   I also prefer photos where the girl looks bubbly and smiling...

Then, it just comes down to logistics.  I don't know if it bothers other guys, but I do not like outcall because it presents many extra hurdles that I don't have time for...and I'd only go for it if it was a Playboy model....and many only once or twice.   Girls who are puncutal, professional and have a good reputation hints that they must be in demand.

As far as being active on the board, I think it helps.  There used to be this woman named French Jacqueline who was pretty darn witty.  Her personality really showed in the discussions so out of curiosity I ended up seeing her.    She had the worst pictures ever (black and white, small and you coudln't even tell what the hell she looked like), but guys insisted she was pretty and I was just curious what she was like in person....if only to take her verbal qualifiier test at least once.   I agree with some of the guys that say the more positive fun loving personalities is the way to go....   arguing or getting in flame wars is not the way to go.  You are after all showing us what to expect.

Make it easy to contact her.  If the only way to contact you is via a screening form, I'm pretty much disinterested at that point.  There is absolutely no way I am ready to give up my screening information as the very first salvo of the communication volley.  To do that is the equivalent of saying to a girl in a bar:  "I am buying you this drink.  If you accept it, you implicitly agree that you know my intention is to fuck you or get your phone number."  It's just a little too forward.

The website and the phone number, as well as an email address...these are all basic things every provider should have.  Make your pictures big and clear.  Give me an idea of what you look like, instead of using blurry thumbnails.  Also, don't make me hunt around for the rates.  If you have TER reviews, link them.

The ones with these shitty websites where I am guessing whether she is busty or not...I pass on them immediately.

Then I send an email to a women and they respond back with more than one sentence and ask questions wanted to know more about me.  I enjoy having a conversation with a women via email or phone before we meet to Learn more about each other.  A lot of women do not know how to communicate to men in this hobby.  Once you establish a rapport and no more about likes and dislikes it makes for an exciting visit.

Additional factors not mentioned include:

Having an incall that is not a motel.

Pleasant voice

A website stating donation. No wants to be surprised by LE

A provider website plays no part in my selection part. However, I have passed over some ladies with high end websites. You know the ones: photos of the private jet, Paris, London, New York. That kind of thing, for me, is a turn off.

The factors I look for is one stellar attribute. One is enough. Like fantastic service, or a beautiful face, a great rack, or a round bottom. You look pretty rockin to me Lela.

You had  my attention
I hope you do Doubles .....Ahh sorry I  coud not  resist  NEED to  Flirt !!

hope  I be in America soon

Great Question; Its the reviews for me.  Knowing who writes honest reviews and reading between the lines.  Also if I do contact a provider, what is her attitude like? Fun, playful, responds on time.

I like to add videos to my ads and also pictures, very few websites have the function to play videos on the same page as the ad instead of being taken to YouTube or some other site because it's a link, that's probably why some providers do not have videos... Your right, sometimes photos don't justify if it's really her. I understand that it takes only a second to look at the photos that the provider claim to be, but when there is a video present as well, not only does she prove it is her, but her chances of enticing the hobbiest is increased. Videos is a must.

So the big one is looks. I saw your fotos and they are on the tame side even though you are hot woman.
first of you will need to shop for some more enticing outfits suggestions: fredricks,victoria secret-Seduction Balconet Bra (Pink) is a nice one, wicked weasel-anything from them even in white, and some sexy heels.
Avoid white unless its something from wicked weasel, go for pinks, reds, blacks with lace.  then think of a fantasy and take a picture.  You are trying to entice men.
remember its advertising is about packaging, presentation, and audiance.

Cough.  Show more skin.

Move the camera closer....it's like we're watching from the nosebleed section.   And, where are these videos you mention?

..thanks for your input.  While I appreciate your response, I should clarify that this discussion post is just that---a discussion.   This isn't me asking "oh what should I do?!"  

Only wear white if it's from wicked weasel?  That's very interesting.  What you shared is definitely illustrative of your personal preferences, and not all men.  I have received countless requests to wear white bras, panties, and lingerie.... and since posting my current photos I've found that people really, really like the white bra & garter set  

It's interesting that you assume I lack a wide assortment of sexy pieces to wear.... The outfits you see in this month's ad (I update my photos on a regular basis) are not the only ones I own.  I frequently shop at VS as well as Frederick's, and also own more high end pieces from La Perla and Agent Provocateur.  You might be blown away if you took a look at my lingerie collection....

Lastly, I like that you described my photographs as "on the tame side."  I wanted them to reflect the elegant & sophisticated young woman that I am, while also hinting at my bad-girl side.  

Thanks again... you'll be glad to know that in preparation for next month's photographs I'll be wearing lots of RED & PINK in honor of Valentine's Day.

xoxo
Lela

I'd say it's a combination photos, the right words (sexy and provocative, of course), and I'm sorry to say, the price.  I wish money weren't an issue, but alas for most of us it is a consideration. I have also learned to check reviews pretty carefully as my "success" rate is much higher when I'm able to confirm what to expect.  I'm sure it must be a little embarrassing to have the intimate details of every encounter shared with the world (or at least the TER world), but it really helps provide a comfort level that we're on the same page.

As for the preferred contact method, I generally find contacting by email first a little less intimidating, though I will certainly call if that's the only way and your ad gets to me.  I would suggest that once the contact is made I am much more likely to follow through and make a date if the gal is friendly and a little flirtatious - on the email or the phone.  Of course, one has to take care of business, but if the response is too businesslike I find it a bit of a turnoff.  Some fun flirting, on the other hand, will almost certainly have me hooked.  In fact, if you send me a flirtatious response to this note, I'll probably be contacting you tomorrow for a date!

I hope so, too, Carla.  If she does do doubles, when would you two like to see me?  I'll make myself available any time.  Sorry, I couldn't resist either.

Thanks so much for your input and for saying I seem "pretty rockin"

That's super sweet.  Also I'm glad to know that a website isn't a necessity, and doesn't even play a part in your selection process.

xoxo
Lela

Pictures, well thought and written bio, and the tone of her emails. I do not care about the phone number as I rather email and reviews are not that important

I was really tired and couldn't relay what my mind was trying to say at the time, but it had something to do with the white sheets made the white lingerie tame...and instead of keeping my thoughts of what would make the photos hotter in my head I posted it....
but now that I know you have a large collection of lingerie I'll keep that in mind and might give you ring in the near future.  That is if you are not too offended with the posting.