One time I went to a large bldg for an apptmt. When I got to the entrance, I saw a guy sitting on a bench and waiting. I was eager for my date and pressed the entry code. The door buzzed and I entered. He quickly followed me. Fortunately he went straight ahead while I waited for the elevator. Hindsight told me that I was careless. What if he was LE, or stalker, or a jerk denied return apptmt? What would you do? What would providers want us to do?

Well, it depends on if you really want a confrontation.  Because the only thing you can do is say, "Excuse sir, but do you have permission to enter the building?" or something along those lines.  This will of course create tension and most likely a confrontation.   I highly doubt it was a monger.  And the girls wouldn't open the door anyway, since it's always a two-call system when it comes to k-girls, at least. I highly doubt LE.   Personally, I wouldn't worry about it.  I actually get people that go in before me holding the door for me when if I'm dialing the code or approaching.  But I guess I don't "look" that dangerous.  BWahahahaha

I arrived at her hotel. There was one guy waiting in his car and another by the entrance. When I called her she said she was running a few minutes late. Got the impression she was not expecting me even though I was right on time. I mentioned to her it felt weird to me with all these people loitering! She said they we just vacationers.  Soon the guy in the car got out and disappeared. about 30min later he returned. I called her again and she said just a few.. A few later I left... All the people hanging around were her johns waiting in line. She has good reviews on TER but IMO she is what is wrong with providers. My time is not her time!

The one thing I did was call when it did not "look" right. But it is good you were aware of your surroundings. Don't be afraid to leave if you are not comfortable!

99.9% of the time I figure it's just somebody who forgot their gate key or somebody who is visiting a friend and doesn't know the code. I always let them in. What else can you do? One guy even got off the elevator on the same floor as me and I did start to think, "hmm, is he headed to the same place?" Then he went off in a different direction.

If it's a huge apartment complex, like usual, then you have to assume these people don't have any bad intentions unless they do something else to raise suspicion. For instance - if he went to the same place and started pounding on the door, demanding to be let in, THAT would be a real dilemma. Do you confront him and risk escalating the situation even further? Do you call the booker? Do you just get the hell outta there? I like to think I would confront him, but I suppose you never know until you are in that situation.

Then, it probably wasn't a coincidence.   He's like 6'5?  That guy lurks on benches....waits on bench to see guys come in....since he knows what's going on, he can kind of figure out if you're there for hanky panky so he'll follow you in and see where you go.   I heard that he went and confronted some customer pretending to be le and scared him away and then tried to go in as the customer to get free service and split.   He's on the blacklist of several girls.   Not sure if he has a partner.   Surprised that no one has mentioned on here....since some girls seem well aware of him.

be cool and play innocent, as if you are just visiting a friend. definitely do not be anxious as if you are committing a crime or because your going to get laid.  when you two enter the elevator let him press the button first.  if he goes to the same floor you want to go, you press a different floor.  The extra trip will allow that person to get where he needs without seeing you going to where you really need to go.  if he presses a different floor than yours you're all good

Yikes, sounds like a jerk we should be aware of.

Can you give me a specific breakdown of what he looked like?   And around what time he was lurking around?

If that was the same guy, then it was no accident.  He sits on that bench and checks out guys in cars and waits for them to go in...  He already knows where you're going...and though he might not have gone with you on the elevator...he could have gone up the stairs and hide on the other side of the wall.   He's been caught hiding on the other side to see who goes in and out....and picks and chooses who to "scare" away.   He's figured out a lot of different locations.  Girls say he's a weirdo.

Yes be aware of this guy. He has been harrasing a couple of the ladies at the CC and SM areas. His name is Steve according to one of the girls. I am putting this out there because he can be a danger to you and the girls so be aware and beware.

I nearly had an encounter with this asshole as one of the bookers asked me to check to make sure one of the girls was ok before my appointment as he was bothering her. I have no qualms walking up to this guy as he is just a pussy. Call his bluff is all I can say.

So once again, be aware of the danger that this guy can pose to you and the provider. He has done this at a couple of locations already.

You might want to walk from the other direction of the usual route to double check if he's hiding in the hallway as that's his m.o.   Does this guy have a partner?  It seems like there's another dude who strangely stands there looking at the cars...dark hair dude, not as tall as Steve.

Wow, what a creep. I'm surprised some annoyed hobbyist hasn't knocked his teeth out by now.

This guy is completely unacceptable.  We need to protect OUR GIRLS.

I will confront this guy if I see him.  If he claims he is LE, I'll ask him for some ID.  No cop is going to be hanging out in front of an apartment building.  Then I'm going to pull out my iphone out and take a picture of him and tell him I will report him to REAL Law Enforcement for impersonating LE, trespassing and harassing.  I'll kick his fucking ass if he even looks at me in the wrong way.

If I see a guy that resembles the description, I'm just going to yell out, "Hey Steve!  Long time no see!" and see what he does.

Best thing to do is to call this motherfucker OUT.  I don't care if he's 6'5", I'm much smaller than that but I know a pussy when I see one.  I won't be intimidated.

Wow!  I didn't know I had that in me.  Seriously though, I would absolutely confront him.

I did not pay sufficient attention to him, but a cursory look showed him to be somewhat clean cut, not shabby hair or beard. He was dressed OK, nothing unusual. All I noted was that he was rather tall, at least 6', probably more. I arrived in my car around 10:45 for a 11AM apptmt. He was there already, sitting on a bench at the front entrance. I got a text at 10:50 giving entry code, and indicating that provider was ready. I was too eager for my date that I simply pressed entry code. Hopefully my body blocked his veiw so he did not see the code. As soon as I entered, he followed. That is a big complex that houses several providers I have seen, so I assumed he was a hobbyst for another lady. 20-20 hindsight told me that I was not too careful.

From what I heard, he scared of one hobbyist claiming that he was le to try to get into the girls room, impersonating the customer that's supposed to be coming... and I think he's a thief or uses that to steal in addition to getting free service.. if guys know more, please speak up.  So, definitely, if the girl you're seeing suddenly is late or has to flake....this might be why.   I think Steve is probably just an alias.

In my case, the girls Booker asked me to check the hallway to make sure he was no longer there as he was knocking on her door and she would not open the door.

The girl also says that she has seen him twice again around the complex as she was coming to work. Be aware of the pool areas as well as he might hang out there as well.


As I said before, I have no qualms about walking up to this guy and calling his shit out. I have dealt with assholes like this before and know how to deal with them. As what Froomie said, call his bluff. We have a description of this dude and know his M.O. If he is lurking on this board, I hope he is reading this.

As far as I know there are two creepy predator the first I leart about in the early summer through pm from a fellow TER member is either a Latino or white man who impersonated LE . According to the pm this guy would approach clients chase off and take their take their appointment.

A few weeks later fellow hobbyists from the Bay Area told me came face to face with a predator outside a an apartment in a SM complex. This same guy was apparently harassing a girl with the same agency in WLA location. It seems this is the creep called Steve and he is still up to his tricks.

Should have posted a warning but I regret not doing so earlier.

Do the 2 guys work together?

Have no idea whether or not  they work together .

I was warned to watch out for the one impersonating  LE a few weeks before Steve made his appearance ,I was not told were he hung out . I am familiar with the 2 locations steve has been frequenting and the girls he was after.