Help me out here fellas. Tell me I will eventually calm the F down with this shit. When you started, what was it like for you?

. . . what most of us went through when we first discovered THE HOBBY.  For many, like me, the intention was that this would be a short term situation, in my case to tide me over after the death of my wife until I felt like I wanted to be in a relationship again.  It turned out to be a much better lifestyle for me than relationships with civvie girls.  Everything I do is on my own schedule, which is the biggest attraction for me, and it is relatively drama-free compared to dating civvies.  

I would advise you to get the hell out.  

Helps a ton! I knew you'd throw solid advice. Most of it is common sense stuff that I know, of course! But this hobby really is like a drug in many ways, and so the common sense element gets tossed out the window. Just got to survive this initial flurry, get my footing, and start making big head decisions again! LOL. Thanks man

Thanks for the cold sober, honest response. It's funny because I was actually kind of laughing when I wrote the post. I just had this moment of perspective and had to kind of ridicule, and laugh at myself publicly via the post. And I was surprised at first that it was getting a bunch of reads with no responses. But then realized (and now confirmed by the only two responses so far) that this post pulls at a thread that most of us don't want pulled -- kind of the dark side of the hobby. I'll either get my shit together and be able to handle hobbying in a way that makes some sort of sense. Or get out. Thanks again for the honest response. I definitely understand that I am teetering on a precipice of sorts.  

funny.  do you guys really go thru this when you first begin?

nearly $25,000 the first two months.  Once I got over the depression of experiencing that, I got organized and got my shit together.  Its all about self-discipline, and winning the battle of the big head over the little head, and finding balance between moderation and excess  

we go thru it every time we see an ad for a hot girl we haven't visited yet...

The best day in my life was when I was about five years old and I realized they would never stop making chocolate chip cookies. The relief was amazing and I was able to calm the fuck down and proceed with my life. Now fifty years later I still see chocolate chip cookies everywhere. Don't panic, slow down and remember... it's the "oldest bakery" in the world

I'm going to have to agree with everything Frommie said.  The thing is the occasions when you have that mind blowing experience with a girl you'd never get in real life, that will keep you coming back even if you know you have to stop.   Unfortunately, even when you do stop, once you're in between relationships, that temptation is too great.... why risk rejection, when there's some possibly hot girl that will do way more than a regular girl and be much more nasty.   It does kind of take away from your future relationships...because instead of developing those traits to attract a better mate or make yourself a better guy....you really are just taking a short cut.   Also, we delude ourselves into thinking the provider really likes us in that one to four hours, but really it's just business.   It's like trying to quit heroin.   Though, I must admit once cityvibe went to their new format, I haven't looked at the site or participated so that did slow me down.  Just looked at the wall of thousand thumbnails and didn't feel like wading through them.

The thing is. after about $100K and many years later, you get a little more selective (for the most part).  For me, the game has changed a lot.  I'm more into developing what I loosely coin as "relationships" with a handful of gals.  Sure, I sample the new kbabe on the block once in a while, but for the most part, I tend to find a few girls that I like and get more intimate with them.  For example, rather than spending an hour with a girl, last week I spent an entire evening -- dinner, hanging out, watching porn, fucking, spending the night, fucking in the morning, and going out for breakfast -- with a FBSM gal I've known for a couple of years.  All for the price of a massage and paying for the meals; because we're friends now.  However this type of situation is very hard to develop, there's a lot of time (and money) invested into that relationship and building a trust that is beyond the monger/provider exchange.

help big peter johnson afford the elite providers!  our goal is $10,000 in two days!

reviews, you have been doing this about twice as long as me, but the evolution you have gone through in how you approach the hobby seems similar to my own.  I find it is easier to navigate the "relationships" with long-term friends if I continue to see one new girl each week for an hour.  It keeps the rest of it, a lot of which has evolved into relationships/friendships as you describe, with a lot of off-the-clock time, in a better perspective, so I don't do anything too crazy, like asking someone to marry me.  You are absolutely right that the long-term "friendships" require a huge investment of time and money.

a patch over one eye, tie up one leg so it looks missing, and maybe people will feel sorry enough for you to donate.  Otherwise, I don't see a lot of people paying for pussy for someone else.

I'm getting my sexual needs taken care of without having to spend a whole night taking a civvie girl to dinner, listening to her lame stories, and then wondering if I'm going to close the deal or not.  Then there is the constant texting, calling and wanting t know what I am doing and where I am.  If I want sex at ten in the morning, or right after work, I get it on my own schedule.

When I first got married I figured I would never do something like this.  No way.  But the marriage started going bad.  In fact, many people, including myself, suspect she is gay, in denial, and just wanted kids.  When my opinion started to change was when she started the little game of withholding sex to get her way.  Not the smartest game to play with a man.  So I start thinking if she is going to play that game, maybe I will play a different game.  

Just out of curiosity, are you a screenwriter...and make your living writing movies?  If so, that's a pretty good line of work...

When I was growing up I was so shy around girls. Did mess around with one girl a little in high school.  Didn't have any real action until my mid 20's.  Now OMG, those shy days are long, long, gone.  Whatever type of lady I want when I want it.  Want a threesome, no problem.  Want GFE, no problem.  Want PSE, no problem.  Want asian, no problem.  Want white, no problem. Want black, no problem. Want latino, no problem.  Want middle eastern, no problem.  Want tall, no problem.  Want short, no problem.  I have definitely made up for being deprived when younger!  

TV is a steady gig if you're on a show. Writing movies is more competitive. There might be 10+ writers on a TV show. Movies are usually just one or two (you'll have uncredited rewrites but the real money is when you have your name on the film). And selling an original (or getting hired to write a film) is really, really hard. Throw a rock and you'll hit someone with a screenplay they're peddling, or you'll hit an A-list writer that's out of work and willing to drop his/her quote to snag your job. So figure I have to sell or get paid to write at least one movie a year on average. So far so good, BUT the paychecks come every few months in lump sums. So you need to be very disciplined and maintain a budget vs... Woooo, I just got a check for 80K! And go nuts. There's a good chance that will have to last 6 months or more. I've gone over a year twice in the last decade making goose eggs. But I've also had a few great years. But average it out and it's really just a pretty decent paying job, only there is ZERO security and it's one of the most competitive, fickle lines of work there is.
It's very risky, exciting, you get to step into different worlds creatively, you don't ever really know what's around the next corner, but you know there's a home run out there just waiting to be hit... sound familiar?

I think with the hobby you have some excellent motivation to keep on keeping on! Ha!

lol i didn't say i thought it would work...

How do you break into TV?   I always assumed tv was really hard to break in because it's about relationships....and that at least with film, they'd look at newbie specs....   Just out of curiosity, what do you think the average screenwriter makes per year?   Don't you have to go through 6 month rounds auditioning for an assignment?  

Froomie, $100k? C-d-L,  $25k in TWO MONTHS? Jesus!!!  You guys are ballers! As near as I can tell I've dropped only around $27k in the eight plus years since I discovered burners and dove into the deep end of the K-girl pool.  

This is  nothing new I  have seen it before..
 Pussy addiction
 boys starts out by sampling all the candies in the store!!
 Looking for the best tasting one.
 Then they  eventually   get "belly ache" ... and  then They  stop for while..
They  may return .. Wiser ..Or looking for more a personal encounter ...
Some hobbie because they love sex and do not want be in relationship  
However ..
 Make sure that  you do not lose
 your capacity to HUNT!!

Or, they may just decide that cannoli is better than candy.

It's the domesticated, watered down, electronic version of that primal hunt to spread the seed. In fact I'm less worried about the money I'm spending than about the time I'm spending just window shopping... hunting! And since time is money, I guess it is about money...  
I don't see any belly ache coming any time soon. I have decided, however, that quality over quantity is the correct tack. So I'm booking with someone I've had my eye on since the beginning, and trying to CHILL THE F OUT in the mean time
Thanks for the astute response!

It's all extremely hard to break into at the start. But even when you're a pro it's hard to make lateral moves. TV writers complain about how hard it is to break into features and vice versa. If you are successful in one then you have opportunities in the other, but it's still hard. Once my feature resume hit a certain level I was able to get in the right rooms on the TV side to pitch original shows. Haven't sold one yet (0 for 2) but came really close both times. I'm not interested, at this point, just writing for a show. It's a shit ton of work and I can make the same or more as is. I think it's easier for TV writers to move to features assuming they have the time to crank out a spec. But still hard.

where the deer runs up to you, takes your gun, shoots itself, and falls into the back of your pickup, so all you have to do is take it home and eat it.  That's why I love this hobby!!!

That all sounds very interesting.  You're very lucky.   Most people hate their jobs.    I would imagine tv is very high pressure because you have to write faster and also stand out in the writer's room to justify being part of the team.

And the deer is a 10 point trophy!

Re: Stockholm deer EOM

BLAAAA  YOU!!   sexy dbl-take
Sometimes you hunt the deer  
But one day the deer hunt YOU!!
Stai benne!!
The conclusion... you are good hunter!!
Sorry could resist that  
Lol
Baci per te  
Cc
 

Since the last "golden deer" moment.

deer EOM

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i was worse then you.  i used to bang 5 girls back to back in the beginning.  5th girl it wasn't fun at all dick actually got raw and sore and felt like it blistered.  hurt to have sex.  but was so addicted i rested like 1 day1 and went back at it.  kept repeating and after burning through 30k in about 12 months.  and banging like 150 girls.  i actually got tired.  face became a blur and having relationship with them you sort of wake up and take off that makeup and acting and you realize they are like any other girl whine and bitch about having sex if tired or if you didn't pick up dinner. lol.   you just lose that fantasy and excitment.