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Re: The average K-girl or Russian national is incapable of navigating the Visa process.
herbtcat 6 Reviews 1967 reads
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1 / 9

Found this "article" linked by a friend on FB.  The subject is that staff at two (and other) major tech companies in Seattle were arrested for facilitating sex trafficking, and had sent dozens of emails from their corporate email accounts to brothels and pimps.  It appears to be written with the unchallenged assumption that prostitution always equals sex trafficking.  
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After reading this I have serious doubts about authenticity and/or accuracy.  The so-called "quote" by Amazon reads like it written by someone who's never worked for a large corporate organization:  "Amazon’s Owner’s Manual clearly states that, ‘It is against Amazon’s policy for any employee or Contingent Worker to engage in any sex buying activities of any kind in Amazon’s workplace or in any work-related setting outside of the workplace, such as during business trips, business meetings or business-related social events…’”
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So much is wrong with this:
1. Amazon does not hand out "Owner's Manuals" to employees.
2. No corporate employee handbook or conduct policy would specifically call out engaging in "sex buying activities." .
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There is a similar statement supposedly issued by MS bit it also reads like a fake.  
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Note I have not, and don't plan on researching if there are any arrest or public records in Seattle that could be related to this. Nor I am going to look for other "news" stories.

DAVEPHX 433 reads
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2 / 9

Yes, this relates to the bust over a year ago and shutting down a major web forum and owners charged for posts for promoting and relationship with specific k girl group.  I reported on this extensively and of course the false issues that it had anything to do with trafficking at least in a bad way.  

The current article which has been widely distributed in the "real' media and yes Seattle is a hotbed for escorts with all the high-end high paid MS, Amazon etc execs.  Amazon is the largest private employer in Seattle with their huge headquarters campus.  There is also one of the largest data centers outside Seattle.  

It is common for Asians in the U.S. and Russians in Canada at least in the past, gals to pay "handlers" to come to the U.S. and send money home to starving family in the homeland.  They pay off their handlers from earnings.  It is totally voluntary and fully informed at least in most cases.  Due to the illegal nature in the U.S., there are also bad folks that take advantage of desperate foreign workers.  But from what I have read about the Seattle raid, all were consenting adults.

wrps07 438 reads
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3 / 9

For using corporate emails and id badges. Better to have blue balls and not get any than to hand over your id to a pimp.

harborview 10 Reviews 451 reads
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4 / 9

which include use of company tech & equipment for illegal purposes.  To do otherwise would make the corperation a partner in crime.  Guys have lost 6 figure jobs over this.  Big or small... not too big to fall.  As has been proven recently, well covered by mainstream media.  It's really arrogant to think otherwise.  Hobbiests use hobby email accounts & hobby (happy) phones for a reason.    
So unless you OWN the company and are bullet proof...  not leaving bread crumbs is priceless.  

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 449 reads
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5 / 9

While I have never seen an asian provider (not that I know of but maybe a 1/4 japanese one who looked vaguely asian) but the main groups of asian massage providers in Bellevue used to require screening with work info.  So that is one of the things that have to be struck down in order to make the hobby more secure.  

GaGambler 484 reads
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6 / 9

So yes, "handlers" for lack of a better term are often used.

 
and yes, it's almost always voluntary and fully informed as there are so many willing young women there is no need to lie or coerce the unwilling.

 
I do take exception to your characterazation that the typical sex worker has "starving" familly back home. While that might be true in countries like Russia or much of Eastern Europe, the typical K-Girl hardly has "starving family" back home. The "typical" sex worker from outside the US working here is trying to make a bankroll to either buy a home or a business back home, and of course some blow all their hard earned money on shoes, but with the Asian girls at least, the irresponsible ones make up a very small minority and most are very goal oriented. I defy you to find a broke K-girl who needs to hit up her clients for rent money like what happens with many of their higher compensated American counterparts.

ChristineGFE See my TER Reviews 443 reads
posted
7 / 9

I can speak to parts of this as personal fact.

 
The visa process from PHI to US is very difficult even when having perfect reasons and family.

 
The real issue is  lack of communication and ability to question the additional questions. First you must meet the rules to even get a Visa. Then if you meet the rules you fill out the paperwork and then pay the fee and submit. That begins the first problem. You cannot pay the fee directly at the embassy. In fact unless you have a preset appointment you cannot even get into the Embassy. You cannot get appointment unless they set the appointment. You cannot say I want help and understand and can i have appointment. You can submit questions by eMail, and the answer they will give is to look at regulation XYZ.  

 
Then you must have a way to pay the fee to immigration. Before you can the fee, you must have a case number, before you get a case number you must file the application. I do not know how it works in other countries  but in PHI all applications can start as a hard paper but once filed, you get a case number and its all done email. So for many its difficult as they do not have routine access to internet. You do not file application at the embassy, you must hard mail the application to the US.  

 
In PHI the "handler" is what called a "fixer" most are scams. The process itself simple as long as you have routine internet and meet the requirements.  

 
There are many more problems for people from countries that do not have equal Visa. In Korea its much easier for a person to get a tourist visa than a tourist visa for Filipino. The US does not have equal visa requirements for Filipino, like they do for S. Korean. I meet all requirements for Green Card yet it took almost 2 years. Even I had visa for tourist once before it took 2 years. That is two years with no additional questions. 2 years with no mistakes or error in application. I cant imagine how long it would have taken if there had been problem in my application. Understand that Visa is the first part of the path to green card.  

 
I dont send money to starving family. My family is here and in PHI as well. They eat just fine. I do send extra for them and I do send an allowance for a family i support in  my home village. I am sure some send to their families because they need. But I think its far less than many think. Also you must understand that in Asia its expected the children will support family as they get older. that is simple the way it is and if you do not do so you are a bad child.  

 
I do disagree that some sending money to pay off the fixer fees. I only say this because in PHI you must pay the fixer in all up front. They have no idea what will become of your application because background check. They make no real guarantee you will get visa. Also to remember, they especially dont know how your medical will be. All visa from PHI requires a full medical from approved clinic. Anything wrong with that medical and you must get fixed and show its fixed. The medical will have a full STD panel.  

 
I have strict budget. I dont waste my money except once in a while. I keep to my budget and it works for me. I am lucky that my expenses are reasonable in my mind. The most expensive gift i have ever buy for myself was a little over 500.00 dollars US. And I felt guilty for days and almost return it after. I save and budget everything. This week I will take the test for a learners permit to drive. The test is 25.00 US. I budget that even so small. I do not know many US escorts, in fact i know only 3. I do know many Filipino escorts and a few Chinese. The Asian escorts I know that work at least part time seem to always have money when they need even if to just have a girls night out.  

 
Finally I would be stunned a escort would want borrow money or "hit up" clients for rent or anything. For me it would be saying to a client either i am not a good enough fuck to make money or i am a lazy fuck and not make money. I would be disgraced.

 
Just my thoughts and experience

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 433 reads
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8 / 9

The Philippines was a US territory until 1946.  Aren't all the people who were born in the Philippines prior to 1946 still US citizens?  Or did they loose it after they left as a territory?

ChristineGFE See my TER Reviews 447 reads
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9 / 9

Gypsy,

I think not. I do not know specifically because I never asked. I can tell you my father was born long before 1946 and he had to go through entire process. He still is not a "citizen" he just keeps renewing his green card. He is define a resident alien. He is eligible to take citizen test but he chooses to remain filipino citizen.  

 
Sorry i dont know answer

Christine

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