persons not in the TER management in a public way.

All you do is muddy the water.  People can always write to TER management and tell them why something is or isn't true, and they can conduct an investigation and pull a review or not.

TER has ways of controlling what is put up here and so far I think they do a fairly reasonable job.

I've met a couple of dozen gals on her by dint of their reviews and found them accurate.  Furthermore, the complaints I've heard from providers about inaccurate reviews are few and far between.

To let anyone with an ax to grind start to impugn a person's reveiws, either good or bad, is only going to cause more trouble.

Right now, TER keeps a handle on things, and I think that's where is should remain.

By the way, it wouldn't be slander.  Slander is verbal.  Libel is written.  (As any viewer of the first Spiderman movie would know.)

(still not a lawyer)

-- Modified on 4/10/2011 7:29:36 PM

Let’s talk a little about TER and its review system. Now using a consumer’s unions approach for reviewing products, TER revolutionized the escort field by reviewing escorts. All of a sudden, hobbyist had an indication if Barbie Boobs was worth an evening or not. TER had some trouble back in the beginning plotting a course to an ethical manner of review that eliminated favorites and avoided freebies for hot reviews. Every business has a growing period. As ownership of the site passed to the present ownership, with its location in Europe, most of the complains of the early years were rendered null and void. There are still dark forces out there that watch this site and occasionally move to punish indiscretions of moderators who may have given the appearance of impropriety by outing their true identities to their chagrin.  (Wives and families do not have to be dragged into this hobby nor the sexual indiscretions of moderators made public.)

That said, there still exists the problem of making sure that reviews accurately and fairly portray an escort's physical attributes, sexual practices, and general attitudes. How can we be sure that when Bob Blueblood says Stella the escort is the best, that his opinion is neither subjective nor biased? In short, we cannot. If an escort has an off day, should she be labeled forever as a dud? and if an escort steals, embarrasses, blackmails, or trick rolls a hobbyist, should that information be made public. Now we know the laws governing slander are rarely applied to Internet ramblings, and we know that the defense to slander is truth. We know that there are unscrupulous hobbyists who offer to trade good reviews for a freebie or for a payment of cash. This is a crime and is actionable under the laws governing prostitution, however, no doubt there are reviews on file that took this nefarious origin. I for one, know of a some reviews that were false or even in error, where a hobbyist in good or perhaps in bad faith described a provider as living in a location she did not live and gave a physical and sexual summary that had no likeness to the facts. Unfortunately, the reviewers do not seem interested in correcting historical inaccuracies; perhaps they are too busy struggling to deal with the numerous reviews that are entered on a daily basis.

As an issue of fairness, I would suggest that when a review is suspect to the readers that there should be some way they can briefly enter a note of protest tagged to that escorts review, likewise, an escort who is unhappy with what she/he feels is an unfair or untrue review should have a manner of objecting. I don’t see this as onerous for any of the parties. And when a reviewer who has a history of VIP membership and participation on the boards says that an escort has “stolen” money from him and can offer police reports to verify his filing of a criminal complain, that that negative review should be accorded publication or at the least a note that a complaint exists. As I have nothing to do with reviewing, that is all I can offer, and I would note that I am in full agreement with the policy that moderators are not supposed to review, as it is a conflict of interest.

I would welcome discussion of this point of contention in regard to TER’s policies regarding reviews, reviewing and the question of acceptance or rejection of reviews...







-- Modified on 4/14/2011 9:34:41 AM

Nice closing argument Perry (Mason)

-- Modified on 4/10/2011 7:27:56 PM

I think the scoring part should be over-hauled. I would start with the terminology. For example, instead of 'Appearance" why not "Ability" with a 1 to 10 score. A ten would be a lady that does it all & then some. To me the performance aspect has more to do with how the client is treated & the environment the lady creates. While I have no suggestion for a new word on that. I do think it would say a lot of confusion if it were changed.  

I think the scoring needs a little tweaking as well.  Most ladies view anything less then a 8 0r 9 as an insult and reviewers respond by scoring high.  Since TER runs a top 100 report, the providers are very competitive to get their scores high and into this report.  This is probably a good thing because the best way to get a good score is give good service.  Id like to see more quality control applied to the submitted reviews, and less time to get a review approved.  These objectives conflict with each other, but I find it frustrating that sometimes a review is approved in a day and other times it takes a week.

Almost every escort on this board has fake reviews submitted by guys she never saw.  TER will eventually get around to dealing with them if she complains, but in the meantime, it would be helpful if she could put a 3-400 character note of explanation on a suspect review.

Similarly, if some guys slams her she might have a valid reason, such as he arrived drunk and was aggressive with her, something he would never put in his review, but would provide a context for his low scores.

We just saw this point/counterpoint in action on the General Discussion board when we heard the provider's version of what happened at the bottom of a long thread started by a well known poster.  Her comments changed everything and pretty much ended the thread.

Also, if a provider had a bad day, and everyone does, then it would at least give her an opportunity to offer a brief explanation.  I think this is only fair since the reviews follow her forever and she currently has no recourse.

From the staff reviewer's POV, the biggest problem is fake reviews submitted to get free VIP membership.  It's usually easy to pick up on this if you're a guy reading all the provider's reviews because you're thinking of seeing her.  But if you're the guy at TER that's reviewing only what has been submitted, you won't catch this because you just read the review that was submitted.  This is the biggest weakness with the current system IMO.

As for me, I don't write reviews simply because I prefer to stay under the radar (except for all my posts LOL).  I don't want to incriminate myself- even if it's fiction, and I don't want to leave a trail of where I've been or what I've done.  I realize a lot of guys object to this because it is a review site and w/o reviews it won't exist.  But I prefer to pay the fee and keep my other activities to myself- especially given my history of close encounters of the LE kind.  I appreciate the fact that TER allows for both options.

In my first job in the post-Viet Nam era, everyone at my company (many of whom were returning vets) used that term synonymously with "information."

In December, 1999, when I first started reading these boards, it was much more about information exchange amongst guys whose experience with escorts pre-dated the internet, so I picked that handle.  The way things have changed here, I doubt I would do it again, but I've stuck with it this long so it's too late to change.

There will always be flaws and subjectivity, but sex is a subjective matter - different guys like different looks, performances, etc.  But that is fine.  I've seen reviews that give only a 6-7, yet when I read the review it sounds like a 9-10 experience in my opinion.  To best use the review system you need to:
1) read multiple reviews, I discount the extreme scores and look for the consistent pattern. Look for the specific acts, behaviors you enjoy.  Realize that YMMV is always the case - one or two mentions of greek, DATY, DFK does not mean everyone gets the same performance, but if its repeatedly mentioned, its probably usually available.   Also check other sites for confirmation/verification.  Google is a wonderful tool.
2) look for trends, particularly the last 5-10 reviews - many providers start out inexperienced, and performance improves over time.
3) be wary of first reviews - are they from a reviewer with only a few reviews? could be fake.  But if the first review is from a reviewer with 25+ reviews and a history on the boards - probably accurate.
4) Look for and become familiar with the screen names for reviewers who see a lot of the same providers you have seen and who's preferences tend to mirror yours - then check out who they have reviewed and given high marks to - that's a great way to discover talent you might have otherwise overlooked.
5) be wary of younger ages - the issue of underaged providers is a hot focus for LE and scrutiny, so absent a confirmation of age, I just avoid the 18-20 advertisers unless they are otherwise verified.  Also, younger ages are often new to providing, and performances tend to vary more than the experienced providers.  

Where's the RECOMMEND button?  Very-well expressed and well-written G2.

It requires all who participate to act in an honorable manor.  As is evident not all men, or all women, are capable of doing that.  

I think the system has it's flaws but, all in all, it works quite well.

My thoughts on reading/evaluating reviews follows this path.

Is there a trend to her reviews, either up or down?

I usually throw out the top and bottom reviews, much like in ice skating scores.

I remember that all public review sites (i.e. Tripadvisor) has haters and lovers writing the reports and you need to read between the lines.

They are helpful as is.  Though it would be great to figure out how to reduce rating escalations without it being insulting to the providers.

they attempt to make reviews and ratings idiot proof. They never will be. Reviews always need to be interpreted, not taken at face value. Basically, this idea for improvement amounts to providing help in interpreting. I don't think help is needed. Its likely effect would be to turn the review section into more of a drama club.

Review system works reasonably OK with a major exception, in the case of a booker representing a number of girls. I had cases when I gave 7 or 8 and got blacklisted by those groups. I asked for advice from a fellow hobbi, who has written 50+ reviews. Here's his experience and response:
 "Could be you got blacklisted. It's happened to me. I wrote some bad reviews and J the booker wouldn't take any of my calls for a while. She finally picked up the phone because she said I was such a nice guy and told me her bosses told her not to take my calls, because my reviews were bad for business. I told her I was just being honest. I said, "Tell your boss that if he agrees to take my calls, I won't write bad reviews about his girls." Then I had another monger buddy of mine also call her and backed me up on it. Eventually they let me come back but it took a couple of months."
  From thereon, he and I do not dare to write bad reviews. If the provi was not OK for us, we just privately share info. This phenomenon is especially acute on the K groups in LA, because the bookers seem to all know each other.

Couldn't that be improved just be altering the drop down menus to include something like:

"Appearance"
* 10 - She is a Goddess
* 1 - Everytime you look at her a little throw-up ends up in your mouth.

(Yes, I took the extremes.  I can't imagine anyone on the planet qualifying as a 1, by that definition, it's just there to illustrate my meaning.)

If you do it for all the numbers, people might start equalizing reviews, with only fluctuation up or down by one or two numbers at most.


I also disagree, 7 is not average, 5 should be average.  And if a companion is rated a 10, she better blow my socks off because when I see a 10 I see someone who thought that the girl was so good it didn't exceed his expectations it destroyed his expectations, forever tainting the way he rates other girls, setting the new bar for what is exceptional.  That's not how it really is, but I think that's how it should be.

Also, way too many categories, IMHO.  Fine, you like them all, I don't. Doesn't mean we have to resort to name calling!  

Oh yea, and can we get more search functions?  Come on, the providers pop up in what might be a random order when you do an adv. search...can't we sort by number of reviews, quality of service, quality of looks, whatever?  


And on a non-review note, can we PUH-LEASE have a button to see all new replies to our posts without having to flag some checkbox!?!?  (It's already on the other forum, but I'm on a roll here, so I'm including it here too!  Yes I am!  Deleted or not by a moderator, they still can't reach back in time and bat my hands off the keyboard, thus it was typed!)

Right, and a certain poster on my regional forum was giving me crud about not posting reviews for all the girls I have seen....

You know what your Mother said, right?  "If you do not have something nice to say, do not say anything at all!"  (And yes, I do have some good reviews going through, I just refrained from even submitting reviews for two girls.)

For the most part the system works. Every system has it's minor flaws. My biggest complaint is the provider profile never changes. Even if recent reviews reflect differently. Mine says I have saggy b cups, baby fat, and I'm between 5'6-5-8. A few months after my profile was set in stone I spent a  lot of money for physical upgrades, and I have always been 5'9.5 w out heels. I have had a few guys comment that my profile is way off, and all I can tell them is the first guy that submits a review sets it in stone. Recently a guy got mad at me, like yelling at me mad because he was expecting saggy bs, but what he got was a perfect pair of expensive ds. He also didn't realize how tall I was.

That's really funny- not that you may or may not have had saggy B-cups at one time, but that some guy was so into them that he was pissed-off when he arrived and your saggy boobs had left the building.

You do make a very valid point about the first guy to review having way too much influence over the profile.  I've learned that there are a lot of guys on this board that don't know an C from a DD-cup.  They're just as bad at estimating a woman's weight, and I think you proved they're no better at judging her height.  

And you can't even bring up the whole age issue without starting a shit storm.  I know women whose profiles are off by 15 years because you don't dare suggest they're over age 38!  That's over two dog years, and sometimes... well, you know what I'm saying.

As your experience proved, anytime you don't get what you expected (even if you get better), you're going to make someone unhappy.  A profile that can be revised periodically would help reduce that sort of disappointment.

Believe it or not I lost clients right after plastic surgery. One told me that he was more into the "girl next door" and less of a "porn star."  I must be the rare minority, I would rather be portrayed as older. If I'm still a companion when I'm 40 I will advertise 45-50. I'm not sure why the guy didn't look at my current pictures. I update them monthly, or if something drastic like hair changes. He should of at least read my current reviews. A few of them mention the surgery and all of them say how tall I am. I know you guys have to fill out the profile every time, but if it's never actually updated what is the point?

I know what you mean.  Anytime a woman makes a change, she risks losing the people that liked her the way she was before.

Last year I saw a provider that had beautiful long hair- just like in a shampoo commercial.  The second time I saw her I was shocked that she cut it off.  She told me she'd cut it, but I wasn't prepared for the change.  She suddenly became very ordinary looking to me, and much less feminine.  I never saw her a third time.

You never know what it is about a person that attracts them physically.  It can be one small thing to you, but it could be big to them.  Another example, I actually love brunettes, but I like them natural.  A while back, I was dating a beautiful green-eyed, natural blonde.  She had a natural look and beauty that any woman would love to have.  But like a lot of people, she was never happy with her appearance.  One night she came over to my house and when I opened the door I was shocked to see she'd dyed her hair black!  The only reason I can think of is her GF was Puerto Rican and they always seemed to copy each other.  Of course, the GF had naturally black hair and the coloring to go with it.

Ordinarily, I'd try to be supportive and find something nice to say.  This time I couldn't.  Fortunately, she dyed it back to blonde in a week or two.  But if she'd been a provider and not a GF, I would have never gone back!