Credit to Travelin' Lover and an anonymous tipster on this one.

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That's TWO girls FrankyBoy5150 has either reviewed or plugged who have fake pictures.

Damn, dude just has ALL the bad luck, doesn't he?

http://whois.domaintools.com/mariaxo.com

IP address of web host: 204.15.251.180

http://whois.domaintools.com/chloebanks.com

IP address of web host: 204.15.251.177

http://whois.domaintools.com/slightlyjaded.com

IP address of web host: 204.15.251.177

http://whois.domaintools.com/ashleyoflv.com

IP address of web host: 204.15.251.179

http://whois.domaintools.com/worldclassfemaleescorts.com

(Escort mall advertising a lot of the newbies)

IP address of web host: 204.15.251.165

Huh, go figure. Same internet company hosting ALL of these sites:

OrgName:    Internet Ideas, Inc.
OrgID:      INTERN-503
Address:    4601 West Sahara Blvd  Suite L
City:       Las Vegas
StateProv:  NV
PostalCode: 89102
Country:    US

NetRange:   204.15.248.0 - 204.15.255.255
CIDR:       204.15.248.0/21
NetName:    INTERN-NET1
NetHandle:  NET-204-15-248-0-1
Parent:     NET-204-0-0-0-0
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS1.ICERTIFIED.NET
NameServer: DNS2.ICERTIFIED.NET
Comment:    
RegDate:    2005-10-03
Updated:    2005-11-04

I'm going to say that the odds that Miss Ashley will be the one who shows up at the door... not all that good.

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http://whois.domaintools.com/rachel702.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/lasvegasescortvegas.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/lasvegasescortliz.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/lasvegasstripent.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/sexykeli.com

Wow, we're up to:

4 girls who are using stolen pictures (Rachel, Maria, Chloe and Jade)

4 other girls: (Vegas, Liz, Keli and Ashley)

An agency: (Las Vegas Strip Entertainment)

And an escort mall (World Class Female Escorts)

ALL off of one local Vegas company's servers.

Oh, and ALL of the girls attach photos and ads regularly, and have flocks of white knights who are curiously eager to defend them and flame everyone... and oddly enough, don't see other local ladies.

I think we've pretty much figured this one out. Your gig is up, whoever's posing as Ashley/Liz/Vegas/Rachel/Maria/Chloe. Thanks for playing. Don Pardo will tell you about your steak knives...

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that AshleyofLV is in NO WAY associated with Ashley Jade, who is a wonderful independent provider! In fact, I think the agency that AshleyofLV and SlightlyJaded are part of named those two "girls" after our beautiful Ashley Jade! If anyone thinks that is unethical, let me assure you that it is probably the LEAST unethical practice that agency uses!

T.L.

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Hopefully, this will end the stupidity around here for a while, and we can return to our regularly scheduled chasing of beautiful women.

Frankie is able to engage in the most intimate of encounters with these ladies without noticing he's with a different lady. Do you think this impacts on his appearance ratings for the ladies?

As I said it was not the girl that visited me.  Thanks to those who believed in a true review.  Further research leads me to believe the woman who showed up goes by the name Veronica and the website link is WWW.VERONICA.MOONFRUIT.COM.

Happy hunting.

I was checking server logs this morning and found a link to this posts. I am surprised by boneboybob attacks. If you are going to post the truth, post the whole truth. If you where doing research, you sure left a lot out!

I operate EscortSEO, a very successful website design company specifically for the escort industry. Honestly, I practically build every major escort related website in Las Vegas. I also have built websites for Sheri's Ranch, done advertising for Seamless Las Vegas, and many mainstream industry related sites.

I also noticed that you left out I host:
www.christinesfetishes.com - a great review here (S&M area)
www.sexykeli.com - Has good reviews here.
SOON TO BE SHERISRANCH.com - www.escortseo.com/sheris/ - (a preview to the design).
And about 100 total sites that I have designed, including:
www.vipvegascompanions.com - no reviews, but another site that I have built.
www.worldclassbdsm.com - A BDSM / Fetish Mall
www.worldclassadultvacations.com - An Adult Vacation Mall
www.worldclasststv.com - has links to a couple good reviews from TER to this site.

And that is just in Las Vegas alone. I host and build sites that are in NYC, LA, New Jersey, and several other cities in the US. I also have built sites in Canada and many other countries.

And to address, I have also built:
www.lasvegasescortliz.com - has great reviews everywhere. I know the real story.
www.lasvegasstripent.com - an agency that is all about being honest and up front. I 100% know that they are legit.
www.worldclassfemaleescorts.com - is just like Cityvibe or Eros. Its an Escort Mall.

I work with both Agencies, Independents, Brothels, Strip Clubs, Escort Malls, Dommes, etc. If any of you guys want to know if the girl is the real deal, just send me an e-mail. I have no problem being 100% honest.

And btw... I also was building:
www.escortresearch.com - site is on the back burner. A personal creation of mine. I am sure that boneboybob, TravelinLover, little phil, marikod, and puck will truly be able to appreciate it.

And if LJ still lurks here, I have been trying to to build you a site forever

Hat's off fellas!!!  Job well done.  I know I am grateful and appreciative.  Thank you!!!!

Ashley Jade is pmashley. In the past was she a pretty maid? Is that what the pm is for?

Why should I trust someone who hosts stolen content and copyright violations (as well as escort sites for known ripoffs) to be "honest and up front"?

All we have to do is contact you about every provider that advertises here in LV. Hope you have lots of time on your hands.

You know the 'real story' about liz? Post it or STFU, your statement as it stands is useless.

www.escortresearch.com - so let me guess - you take the money for hosting B&S ripoffs with the left hand and charge us to out them with the right hand. I'm supposed to appreciate your service? Are you high? That's what this place is for, and pal - you've been outed. I wouldn't touch any of the girls you handle since you are admittedly a willing haven for ROBs.

Bob may correct me on this but I do not think he was attempting to provide a definitive list of escort related web sites, so to say he failed to post the "whole truth" (whatever that is) is a bit misleading.

Aside from that, your offer to advise as to whether a girl is "the real deal" would seem to be bad for your business. Don't you have some obligation of confidentiality to your clients? And if you build "every major escort site in L.V," does that mean you built the websites of the three ladies Bob has exposed as using fake pictures? Why no comment about these gals?


But it does seem you could provide helpful information, at least until your non-legitimate clients fire you.

Not much to say execept Jemstone is a beautiful lady, I can see why she stole her photos.
I need to start meeting new girls fact-to-face.  That will be my new requirement.

I think enough people know that that I will not be revealing a very well kept secret by saying "yes, you are right on both counts".

T.L.

"Oh, I'm not an agency owner, I'm just a website operator."

Now, granted, he may well be. But the problem is that if you're just building a website, you do your job and when you're done, you don't go off posting reviews or defending your "clients". I think when you get that involved, you start stepping over lines and risk your credibility. Now, Mr. Seo is a businessman, I can appreciate that, and The Game is played differently in Vegas than it is pretty much everywhere else. That's where the problem and the mischief lies.

The other problem is, why not use real pics? I have a pretty good idea where the pics came from and they certainly weren't from the girls, and we know those girls aren't indies. Not how I define the term anyway.

See, Bob, the other, and final for now, problem is that we in Vegas, especially the "Old School" type define "ripoff", as actual larceny, you know, that taking and asportation (I love that word, asportation!) of anothers' property without their consent to do so. The term "service" is very much an ala carte thing as well, or what we know here as "upsell".

The culture has changed thanks to TER, it ain't going back any time soon. Maybe the Old School boys should adapt, or as Kanye and Jay-Z would say, have their dynasty die off like cavemen, because that's where they're at right now. We'd all be better off for it.

BoneBoyBob did not accuse you of anything! The fact that a rip off agency used a company to build its web sites is not necessarily a reflection on that company! His post was not a knock on the web host. I would expect you to have many clients, some legit, and some less than legit, perhaps. How would you even know? The point he was making was that it was remarkable, to say the least, that all those questionable web sites have very similar, and in some cases identical, IP addresses!

I always find it interesting, though, when someone denies something he has not been accused of! It implies a guilty conscience, I think. If you had just remained silent about all this, I, for one, would not have thought you were involved in the scam that agency has been perpetrating on our community. It is your business to build web sites, NOT to know the details of the operations of your clients! NOW, though, I think you have hurt the reputation of your OWN company! As Puck said, you are abating dishonest policies at the very least! I would have thought you were doing it unknowingly, but now I am sure you are involved! Don't expect much more business from members of TER!

By the way, can you shed any light on the fact that Rachel702, one of your clients, has the exact same web site as Ginaxoxo's? Right down to the music, even? Gina had to build her own new web site to keep herself from being associated with Rachel, who is obviously involved in this scam!

As a pretty good friend of LJ's, I think I can say that she will be fine without your help! Honesty is so important to her that it has become almost a joke in this community! I don't think she will want to do business with someone as obviously dishonest as you!

T.L.

P.S.: Oh, two other quick points:

BBB did not leave out www.sexykeli.com. It is included in his post "The hits keep coming"! We are all sure now that she too is involved in this scam!

LVStripEnt is an agency "that is all about being honest and upfront" and you 100% know they are legit? Nothing you could have said could have hurt your credibility more than that!





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Hey Six,

I read your post, and I am not sure if I understood it too clearly, so forgive me if I misunderstood. This rant mainly comcerns the customer service aspect of your post. I may be a newbie, so to speak in our world, with a only a few reviews, but I am completely old school when it comes to service, and this is one man who ain't gonna let the dynasty die. Jay-Z, Kanye, and the rest can all drop off the earth, as far as I am concerned. These guys, Frankyboy, asian702, et al, were trying to push off a bunch of worthless rip off artists. I tried to be pleasant, and courteous with them, and for the most part I was treated with some respect by them. But after seeing what just about everyone of them was saying was true, and then to have Mr. Seo throw in his worthless $.02 into the mix, I for one think it is high time that we make sure that the "New School" of hobbiests does NOT take over this or any board.

I pride myself on making sure that whatever I do, I do with the utmost of care, and provide the best service I can. I am sick and tired of letting the level drop. It is time to raise the bar, not lower it. Lets weed out the morons, shills, and ripoff artists here, and get back to having some fun in this town.

Sorry for the rant!!!! I relinquish the soapbox to anyone else that may want to take a stab.

Have fun everyone,

Brian

You only misread my post about 6 different ways. Try it again. We're on the same page, trust me. If you're still lost, I'll run it by you next time we meet.

And what's wrong with Jay-Z and Kanye?

LVSE is a reputable agency that has a lot of reviews....look at their homepage..... some of the other independents lists are not rip offs either.

It looks like this escortseo guy builds sites for escorts, but he doesn't discriminate whether they are rip offs or reputable. That would explain the similar IPs. Correct me if I am wrong escortseo, but he probably just builds whatever the paying customer wants.

There is a common theme among replies posted behind # Six:
"What?"

Disagreeing with him can be difficult when it's hard to figure out what the hell he's talking about. Funny, his knowledge of the issues appears to be absolutely incredible, but I haven't found anyone yet who will actually agree with his conclusions (much less understand the premise).

I find him brilliant, but incomprehensible. Unless you're into riddles, it's best just to nod as if you agree, and put little or no effort into translating. I wish I had his command of the english language. But, if I did, I wouldn't use it to create self admiring puzzles all day long.

Still.... He must be someone important - I know of at least one person who thinks so...


Sorry everybody - LOL - I can't help myself sometimes!

B3!!!! Great job! I found the links you provided fascinating...

I stated above in a previous reply that not all of these sites are rip offs.

They are saying Nadia Jade is part of this group. I saw your review of her and it says the pics are accurate and that she was not a rip off. Doesn't that conflict with them saying she is a rip off? Why are you agreeing with them?

This is an interesting community, to say the least. A lot of weird things going on here.

DON'T YOU DO THE SAME THING WITH THE IP'S? I SAW ON ANOTHER BOARD THAT YOU WERE ON, SAYING HOW A LOT OF ADULT COMPANIES HOST MULTIPLE SITES ON ONE SERVER? ISN'T THIS A COMMON THING? IF IT IS COMMON WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING ALL OF THESE POSTS WITH COMMON USELESS INFO?

were fairly clear:

1. a web site operator who defends clients has a conflict of interest and shouldn't do it;

2. there is not much point is using fake pictures since you will soon be found out;

3. TER has changed the culture and broadened the meaning of rip- off far beyond basic larceny.

I am more bemused that you of all people -the master of prolixity in review writing (which, by the way, I enjoy very much, especially the part where you observe the lady walking through the casino before you have even met her) - find Number 6 incomprehensible.

Something about his style. Makes me feel like I ought to know what/who he knows if I'm really to be privileged to read...

I just REALLY enjoy teasing Six. So far, he hasn't swatted me for it, so I guess he's an okay guy. Still - If you research his posts, you'll almost always find a reply right behind it that says; "What?" Always tickles me: So it's not just me...





"prolixity"? HA! An understatement!








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I saw Angelene and Jessica Rabbit through lasvegasstripent.com and it was not an upsell or a rip off. I don\'t think you can lump all of those escort websites into one group and call them all rip offs. I know for a fact lvse uses real photos. I agree it is hard to tell which ones are real and which are not though.

boneboybob -

You posted "Why should I trust someone who hosts stolen content and copyright violations (as well as escort sites for known

ripoffs) to be "honest and up front"?"
You bring a good point. I make each client sign a form stating that they are solely responsible for their websites content.

If the content turns out to be in voilation of any copyrights, it is immediately removed. Just formally e-mail me the request

and I will remove it.

I also take amateur and professional style photos of escorts in Las Vegas. I know the real girls from the photos I personally

take (the agencies usually come to me with photos already taken, edited, and sized). I would only tell you the girl is real

if I have seen her in person. Have one of your members try me once.

You posted "4 girls who are using stolen pictures (Rachel, Maria, Chloe and Jade)
4 other girls: (Vegas, Liz, Keli and Ashley)
An agency: (Las Vegas Strip Entertainment)
And an escort mall (World Class Female Escorts)
ALL off of one local Vegas company's servers."

Bob - All of the companies are based in Las Vegas. Ever think about that?

boneboybob -

You posted "Why should I trust someone who hosts stolen content and copyright violations (as well as escort sites for known

ripoffs) to be "honest and up front"?"
You bring a good point. I make each client sign a form stating that they are solely responsible for their websites content.

If the content turns out to be in voilation of any copyrights, it is immediately removed. Just formally e-mail me the request

and I will remove it.

I also take amateur and professional style photos of escorts in Las Vegas. I know the real girls from the photos I personally

take (the agencies usually come to me with photos already taken, edited, and sized). I would only tell you the girl is real

if I have seen her in person. Have one of your members try me once.

You posted "4 girls who are using stolen pictures (Rachel, Maria, Chloe and Jade)
4 other girls: (Vegas, Liz, Keli and Ashley)
An agency: (Las Vegas Strip Entertainment)
And an escort mall (World Class Female Escorts)
ALL off of one local Vegas company's servers."

Bob - All of the companies are based in Las Vegas. Ever think about that?

Number 6 -

I appreciate your insight.

You post "the problem is that if you're just building a website, you do your job and when you're done, you don't go off

posting reviews or defending your "clients"."
I dont post reviews of my clients. I don't defend my clients. I stay away form the politics of the escort industry. I stick

to facts. I have nothing to do with the providers services.

You post "The other problem is, why not use real pics?"

The photos used are at the sole descretion of the escort. I take amateur and professional style photos of some escorts in Las

Vegas. I know the real independent girls from the photos I personally take (the agencies usually come to me with photos

already taken, edited, and sized). If you are wondering if the girl in the photos is real, just e-mail me. I can let you know

if I have seen her in person and If she is real.

You post " I have a pretty good idea where the pics came from...""
If you know where the photos came from please post a link.

Biglvguy aka Brian -

You posted "Mr. Seo throw in his worthless $.02 into the mix"
I think my $.02 counts for a lot. I have taken pictures of the real Independents in Las Vegas. I can tell you if a girl is 100% real. If I don't know, I will tell you. All any member of TER has to do is e-mail me.

"I pride myself on making sure that whatever I do, I do with the utmost of care, and provide the best service I can."
What service does a hobbyist provide?

marikod -

I understand that boneboybob was not trying to "provide a definitive list of escort related web site". I never said that he was. Bob did post "Huh, go figure. Same internet company hosting ALL of these sites." How else can this be construed?

BoneBoyBob attacked me (EscortSEO.com) and my hosting company (NakedHosting.com).

You post "to say he failed to post the "whole truth" (whatever that is) is a bit misleading."
He did fail to post the whole truth.

You post "But it does seem you could provide helpful information."
I am happy to provide the members of TER with honest information. Feel free to e-mail me if you have questions.

You posted "And if you build "every major escort site in L.V," does that mean you built the websites of the three ladies"
Which 3 ladies? I would comment if you could point out specifi url's to me. Bob had been accusing a lot of websites.

I understand that boneboybob was not trying to "provide a definitive list of escort related web site". I never said that he

was. Bob did post "Huh, go figure. Same internet company hosting ALL of these sites." How else can this be construed?

BoneBoyBob attacked me (EscortSEO.com) and my hosting company (NakedHosting.com).

You post "to say he failed to post the "whole truth" (whatever that is) is a bit misleading."
He did fail to post the whole truth.

You post "But it does seem you could provide helpful information."
I am happy to provide the members of TER with honest information. Feel free to e-mail me if you have questions.

You posted "And if you build "every major escort site in L.V," does that mean you built the websites of the three ladies"
Which 3 ladies? I would comment if you could point out specifi url's to me. Bob had been accusing a lot of websites.

Puck -

You post "All we have to do is contact you about every provider that advertises here in LV. Hope you have lots of time on

your hands."
You don't have to contact me about every provider. I was merely offering my help in resolving this situation and extending an open invitation for members of TER to contact me if they have questions about a site I have built.  

You post "You know the 'real story' about liz? Post it or STFU, your statement as it stands is useless."
I wish to stay away form the politics associated with the these boards. Lets just say that I know she is real and a very honest lady. She has posted replies in various places online.

Escortresearch.com is a private project of mine. I 100% own all of it. There are no outside agendas or influences. Just facts. You should help the EscortResearch community grow by posting there.

You post "I wouldn't touch any of the girls you handle since you are admittedly a willing haven for ROBs."
I am not. I make each client sign a form stating that they are solely responsible for their websites content. If the content turns out to be in violation of any copyrights, it is immediately removed. Just formally e-mail me the request and I will remove it.

TravelinLover -

BoneBoyBob did accuse me (EscortSEO) and my hosting company (Naked Hosting). Here is what he said:
"Huh, go figure. Same internet company hosting ALL of these sites"
How else can this be construed? Not trying to split hairs, but is this not an attack on EscortSEO and Naked Hosting?

I do appreciate you post. It is great that you understand the fact that I just build these websites. I also provide search engine optimization for clients.

You posted "The point he was making was that it was remarkable, to say the least, that all those questionable web sites have very similar, and in some cases identical, IP addresses"
We provide a a range of unique IP addresses for each one of our clients. The case of the identical IP addresses is being resolved. However, look at Ms. Logan and LVDelight. They are hosted on the same IP as over 30 other Escort Agencies.

You posted "I always find it interesting, though, when someone denies something he has not been accused of!"
What was I denying? I never denied anything. I only presented facts.

You posted "I, for one, would not have thought you were involved in the scam that agency has been perpetrating on our community."
What scam? What Agency?

Why are you making all these claims and attacks? I though you understood that I just build these websites.

You post: "As Puck said, you are abating dishonest policies at the very least! I would have thought you were doing it unknowingly, but now I am sure you are involved!"
How am I abating dishonest policies? I am not involved in each girl's services. I just know if the girl is real or not. I

tried to make is available for anyone to e-mail me if they have questions and want an honest answer.

As requested, I can shed light into www.Rachel702.com. The client came to me with an existing website that had not been finished. You can purchase the template online for around $30. The music and design can be purchased by anyone.

To address your PS:

Sexykeli.com is involved in what scam? If you want to know if she is real or not, just e-mail me. Also, Who is we?
LasVegasStripEnt.com is 100% upfront and honest.

But for you, bchilson, it's Number 6 For Dummies. My people are talking to their people as we speak. Now that's a real winner: they'll be clearing the shelves at Borders and B&Ns so Ozzie can pimp out Harriet on Backpage or CL, or they can produce their own porn.

Seriously, I don't write in code, but either you get it or you don't. The industry professionals seem to "get" me. Because you don't "get" it, doesn't make it, or, me,  incomprehensible. No does it make you unintelligent. There's a lot of stuff in this drama that we can't talk about either, if you knew you'd understand why.

I know at least two other guys who run agencies behind the "I'm just a webmaster" premise. A third one plays it differently, but it's the same deal. Because they're not in Vegas doesn't change the concept. Consider why they might want to position themselves as such.  


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I'm not seeing the same disconnect (between offered and actual services) here that you claim exists, but I may well be mistaken or misunderstand.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on what's "legit", but sometimes the office politics finds you anyway no matter how hard you try to distance yourself from it. I think we can agree that running a webscort site from Vegas, is a totally different proposition that running one from, say, LA, Miami, or SF.

I'll say this one more time, but your real clientele (and let's be real here, most, if not all, of those girls have management, we both know this) would best be served in providing a real, contemporary business model, and treating the guys like honored clients instead of marks. That's so 20th Century.

I've refrained how the tradtional Vegas Agency/Pimp model works here, because it's irrelevant to our forum, but it's getting really tempting to have that discussion. The problem is it's not my business, nor do I care it to be. There's just no profit in having that discussion.

But let's discuss why you're here for a minute. Business is way off in this town. Tourists are spending less and less. MGM Mirage has lost HALF it's market cap in the last 6 months. The bond underwriters for the HET buyout are still holding 67% of the bonds, they can't get any takers for them. You can actually drive on the Strip without too much hassle these days. So, we can safely assume there's a lot less money flying around these days.

There's a lot more information out there about the escort biz, and TER is an authority (sorry, Fever isn't, and TBD is one in shadow only). The game your clientele plays is a different one than the community here
plays. The problem is, fewer and fewer guys are biting, and the Agency biz has quite a bit of overhead. So they're a little concerned, as they should be. I'd be too. If the agencies could still hook guys for $600-$1500 routinely (and be out the door faster than Domino's can deliver), neither they nor you wouldn't be even bothering with TER. That's the reality.
 
As you probably know, we have a couple of mutual friends. They speak well of you, but may not have the entire picture. Good luck to you and may you one day find the Light.

Yes, it's a test.

"You post "I wouldn't touch any of the girls you handle since you are admittedly a willing haven for ROBs."
I am not. I make each client sign a form stating that they are solely responsible for their websites content. If the content turns out to be in violation of any copyrights, it is immediately removed. Just formally e-mail me the request and I will remove it."


So why are all these rip-offs and B&S artists sites still up? Is it because we haven't sent a formal email?

What is a formal email? Black tie?

You prove you're a haven for rip off artists with stolen pictures by leaving them even while claiming the moral high ground.

I don't consider pointing out that a bunch of questionable web sites were all built by the same hosting company an attack on that company! You took it that way! Why? Why should what B3 said be considered the least judgmental about the web designer or host? The only thing that makes sense is that you are WAY more involved in this scam than just hosting the web sites!

What scam? Good grief! Trying to pass off girls with stolen pictures of porn stars as independent providers isn't a scam? Making up fictional hobbyists to be their white knights and post good reviews of them isn't a scam?

Trying to compare Miss Logan's policies with LVDelight to yours isn't going to work! We know that LVDelight is a way for independent providers with great reputations to advertise themselves. We know that NONE of the girls YOU advertise has a good reputation! To compare the two is ridiculous! In fact, I didn't get too involved in posting what I knew to be true on this board until you tried to bring LVDelight down to your level through FrankyBoy's post about LVDelight being an agency! THAT really pissed me off! And now you are still doing it!

Who is "we"? "We" are the people who understand your scheme to separate decent hobbyists from our money using false pretenses! And our numbers are growing! Your welcome is pretty well worn out on this board! I suggest you take your dishonesty somewhere else!

By the way, the word I meant to use in my post titled "Interesting" was abetting, not abating. But now I think you do MORE than abet the  dishonesty involved in this scam! I think you are the originator of it! If you continue to post ads of non-existent or disreputable girls on this board, I will call you on it every time! You'd better make up some new names for your shills too, because all the ones you've used in the past have lost their credibility here! That includes ROYALFLUSHED and Bigman106!

T.L.







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Very perceptive Number 6- you have recognized the source of my handle.

Ok, I guess it's time for me to get back on the soapbox. Ready??? Here goes. Mr. Seo, did you take the pictures of ChloeBanks, MariaXO, VegasLiz, SexyKeli, or any of the other girls in question???? Consider this an email, ok?

Just so you know, I can tell if a girl is %100 percent real just by looking at her picture. What I can't tell is if she is honest by her picture, UNTIL I meet with her. Even then, it can be difficult to tell right away.

Now, as to your question as to what service I provide. I meant in whatever I do, in life, in work, in general. I think it was quite evident in what I wrote. Is that straight enough of an answer for you???

Regards,

aka Brian

Excuse me ROYALFLUSHED, but where does it say Nadia Jade in any of the posts? I just reviewed the posts in question, and I saw no reference to her in any of them. I just looked up her profile, and it says to report a new website. I am not trying to flame you, please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Brian

WTF, is that? I don\'t know RoyalFlushed. I am not a shill! I understand you wanting to get to the bottom of all of this and I am right there with you but WTF did I ever do to you to deserve being called a shill? I have always liked this board, but this is getting out of control.

Good post Big. If this escort seo guy is legit he should help us out here and tell us who is legit and who isn't. Good job asking the direct questions. I have to say I think you are a real person. You post quality posts that don't have the usual read between the lines bs. Keep it up.

Lv Delight is one of the only sites with a good rep in Vegas. I think rip off agencies being on the same server as a legit site like Lv Delight does not make the legit site a rip off, nor does it make the rip off site a legit site. they have nothing to do with each other, other than they use the same hardware somewhere to host their sites. Big Deal.

to Number 6's latest post?
This one is fair game.

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I hope you get it and reply to it! If you are not VIP, please tell me how else I can reach you privately! But the gist of my PM is that if I am ever convinced that I am wrong about you, I will offer you a public apology on this board! Not at the end of a thread like this either! I will start a new thread to do it!

That same promise applies to anyone! As BBB has said in a different way, it is difficult to tell all the players in this drama filled ball game without a scorecard. I admit that I could be wrong sometimes, but I have tried to be extremely careful with my accusations.

T.L.

What handle do you use on that board?