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Vegas has changed, but...
TheKarateKid 7 Reviews 202 reads
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Vegas has changed based on what I've heard from some friends who visited recently, but there are still good providers out there.  You just have be diligent and do your research, using all available resources.  I also follow a number of providers on twitter and have crossed several off my list because of their bad attitudes.  It's amazing what some providers post on their social media. LOL

I still have a favorite provider in Vegas (Sweet May), but I haven't been able to see her since the pandemic started so it's been at least 18 months since my last Vegas trip.  Hopefully, I'll get to see her whenever I'm able to get back to Vegas.  I haven't had the chance to see Jaydalee, but she's also one of the well known providers that I wouldn't mind seeing. :)

superkinkyguy8596 reads

I really hate to say this but this town is not what it used to be...
This is the third time I fly from LA to Vegas to meet someone, confirmed in the morning and canceled less than 1 hour prior to the date. $150 for the flight, the inconvenience and time, $350 for the room and I am just stuck there doing work.  
Additionally half of the hotel is shut down and everything takes forever because of Covid.  
I guess the times of flying to town for a fun night and getting back to work the next day are over.  
Vegas just isn't what it used to be.

Curious- what hotel is that/-

There still seems to be lots of ladies around but at higher price points

superkinkyguy176 reads

I was at Wynn...  
Lots of ladies around charing high price but they either no show, cancel, arrive excessively late ( well over 30 min ) and leave early. I really miss some of my friends pre Covid. Guess I won't be visiting anytime soon. My past 5 visits have been underwhelming at best.

There are a lot of guys wanting to book so the arrogance level of providers is sky high since they can pick and choose from a large population. I’ve also noticed providers are reducing their menu options but raising rates. Quality will continue to go down until bookings go down and expectations of fairness go up. Until then expect this type of treatment.

Before Covid and FOSTA/SESTA there were always a lot of guys wanting to book, but now there has been a paradigm shift in a lot of peoples minds. Many of the providers today see the world differently than many of the great providers of the past and it's really that fucked up mentality that is changing things for the worst leaving everyone to long for the good ole days. Throwback great service does still exist however if you do your research.

superkinkyguy145 reads

I see a lot of ladies on Twitter and their comments and post that are very derogatory towards clients. I am not talking about clients who have poor hygiene and bad manners.. just the way they feel entitled to more while offering less so to speak. Rates are what they are.. I have no problem spending $800.. I ll even go 1k but for that I expect enthusiasm, fun vibes and a perfectly groomed lady who put a bit of effort in how she presents herself. Instead I have seen some show up like they just got off bed, smelling of weeds while they market themselves as " high class". ...and the lack of enthusiasm or even effort in making the experience sexy is rampant too.. and the cancelations at the very last minute ( or no show ) are very comment, yet the very same lady have very stiff  cancelation policies.

Very much agree with you. I have had some wonderful dates over the years. I do my homework. Yet the last three dates in Vegas have been more than subpar. First date was for multiple hours with a girl who had been superior pre date with communication and social media presence. She showed up high, sucking on a vape pen constantly, and more interested in taking a long bath than engaging with me even in conversation. The second girl was multiple hours and in touch up til 6pm. Then radio silent til an hour past our date. Said her phone died and she couldn't meet. Look. Im not naive. She got a better offer. The very least she could do is let me know that earlier rather than make up a weak excuse.
Third girl I had seen before. She canceled on me the morning of our long planned date. Again. Likely she got a better offer.
I get it.

Sadly I agree with all comments on this thread- I have been coming to LV for years and the quantity and professionalism of what I’ve experienced in the past has gone. One of my favs, tripled her rates. Not for me….
Always comfortable with a certain price point 400/500 for an unrushed hour— I now see fewer and fewer of these girls available—I’ll be back in September and will be contacting 100 proof.. No drama and don’t need to chase down new indies and risk disappointment  

superkinkyguy145 reads

I can totally see that.. well until then, I guess I ll save my funds....It is what it is...

you have experienced this multiple times as well as the other guys who have had similar experiences.
Not all Vegas providers are how you described. That is terrible when your time is wasted or not even common courtesy to cancel in advance. Happens to us providers as well and it is not cool when it happens to either party.
Frustrating to read and hear when there is quality providers here in Vegas who do not act this way and are true professionals.  
Perhaps you chose the wrong providers. Longevity and reputable reputations spanning years should be considered when picking a provider you want to spend time with you.Especially if you are traveling for the main purpose to see this person.

Just my .02

A lot of excellent women have retired but in my experience, the ones that were good before the pandemic are still good.  Most have upped their rate a little but based on the increased risks, that’s perfectly reasonable.  

superkinkyguy152 reads

I am completely fine with an increased rate.. but I do expect great attitude and performance. A provider I used to see and recently reconnected with arrived at 10pm, spent 10 min changing, was completely disengaged and left 15 min prior to the end of the date. Mind you I greeted her with a gift and when I found out it was her kid's bday coming up, I gave her an extra $100. Needless to say this will be our last date. At $800/ hour there is an expectation that the time if fun for both parties...

Posted By: jaydalee
Re: Sorry to hear..
you have experienced this multiple times as well as the other guys who have had similar experiences.  
 Not all Vegas providers are how you described. That is terrible when your time is wasted or not even common courtesy to cancel in advance. Happens to us providers as well and it is not cool when it happens to either party.  
 Frustrating to read and hear when there is quality providers here in Vegas who do not act this way and are true professionals.  
 Perhaps you chose the wrong providers. Longevity and reputable reputations spanning years should be considered when picking a provider you want to spend time with you.Especially if you are traveling for the main purpose to see this person.  
   
 Just my .02
And my .02
Jaydalee is one of the rare few who do not fall into this category- I have seen her a few times over the years and her service and price point remain excellent-
Always a sure get IMO

Agreed. Jaydalee is a class act!

I also agree about Jaydalee. There are still many lovely ladies out there.

sorry to continually reading about bad experiences while visiting Vegas.
Happy to hear that gents did have dates where the ladies actually showed up.

thighhighlover170 reads

Agree as well. Cancellation after cancellation. There are some young ones especially who are horrible. When market corrects they can go f themselves

I have not been to Vegas in over 18 months due to Covid but normally visit 4 or 5 times per year.
I would not say Vegas Sucks but if you compare Vegas providers on P411 to other big cities, Vegas does have a very HIGH percentage of Golden Pussy ladies who look great but underperform behind closed doors.
Most the younger girls.

That being said, there are still a bunch great providers in Vegas!  
Do your research.

What amount of research is going to help you avoid last minute cancellations?  TER should have some functionality that let's you just report when you've been cancelled on and compile some sort of "Appointments Kept" ratio.

I understand it's a terrible cycle.  
Providers cancel
Customers overbook appointments to have backup plans
Customers cancel
Providers are forced to take longer appointment requests when they can get them to compensate
And repeat

Thats why I'm actually a fan of deposits.

I agree with all the comments here.  I started going to Vegas in 2008 and would go 2-4 times per year all the way from NYC.  Maybe there were better times but this was my starting point.  There were some fantastic ladies and there still are some but in my opinion not as many.  I never had a cancellation and the service was always excellent.  I can remember that out of the nations top 100 on TER there were about 25 ladies just from Vegas and I fortunately had seen about 15-20 of them.  Now my reviews of them have been taken down because they are no longer available.  For me it started going down hill a few years before COVID-this crew of girls (and those who know what I am talking about can verify) would cancel all the time or show up at my hotel and say Oh my, I just got my period but you can see xyz.  Really you just got your period in the 30 seconds you walked in the door.  I stopped going during COVID but recently decided to take the plunge.  Still quality women (I was fortunate to see a few of them) but not nearly as many and the prices are much higher and no I am not a bargain hunter just an observation.  Hopefully Vegas can return to the better days because its my favorite party spot....

Had Melrose Sky no show, no text me on a four hour dinner date earlier this week. Date was set for 5 pm, waited in front of the hotel restaurant (I was hungry) until ten after 5 and got seated, advising the hostess someone was coming to meet me. 5:30pm still a no show so I emailed. 40 minutes later got an email reply from her assistant that MS had an emergency, that she was sorry and did I want to see another lady. I declined that offer as this was a dinner date. Ironically it was a great meal, great wine and I spent most of it chatting with the couple at the table next to me, when I wasn't e-mailing back and forth. The assistant was genuinely apologetic, helpful, and did offer an alternative lady, who I had in fact researched and chosen not to book. MS had my phone number, had asked if she could use that number to text me day of (I agreed), and yet couldn't find the 30 seconds it would have taken to text me and let me know she couldn't make it. It's hard to imagine too many emergencies that would preclude sending a text. Bait and switch, she got a better offer, just plain lazy...maybe. On MS's web site in her intro, she states that she likes to "pick the minds" of successful people, well, the successful folks I know share a common trait...they show up for work.

MfSD

To bump a 4 hour dinner date. But my feeling is that MS never had your number. Her asst, yes but her...nah.
This sort of NCNS sounds familiar to the antic done my the infamous "group"...maybe?
Sorry it happened and you calling it out is very much appreciated by the community..Hang in there

During the confirmation process, it was hard to tell who I was communicating with the escort or the asst, but I'm pretty sure it was MS that asked if she could text me day of. No matter, I had other dates set up on this trip and had a great time. As far as your infamous group, don't know H, hadn't hobbied in Vegas in three years. Most of the newer younger faces I researched for the D-D weren't on the scene in 2018. I rolled the dice on MS, crapped out.

MfSD

Glad your trip still had hobbying success!

I'll be there next week and so far I'm sticking with some wonderful well known providers I haven't seen since BC ( Before COVID)..I may still try to play one night with someone new. Anyone have suggestions worth a shout out?

Also, is it true you have to mask up in casinos there now? If so, what's that like?

Yes on the masks (not a big deal in my view) in the casinos/hotels, it's different though at the clubs, bars, restaurants, places where food and drink are being consumed. I had the same game plan, see ladies I knew would show up that I had seen before and then try one of the newer ladies. Well that part of the trip clearly did not work out even though I did read her reviews and private messaged with a guy who had seen the lady who ended up a no show. I did a fair amount of homework for that dinner date, all for naught. As far as a shout out, one need only read the Vegas ad board on this site, other sites, to get a good idea of who is available. Good luck.

I have drastically cut back on pursuing the hobby on Vegas trips for something that really become problematic the past 2-3 years: The lady arrives and immediately asks to change and get ready in the bathroom (naturally taking her phone with her). They then proceed to spend about 20-30 minutes of the one or two hour session in the bathroom. I even try to prevent this by instructing ladies to just arrive in comfortable clothes they can easily get out of and not worry about bringing any special attire as this is not my thing. What happened to the days when the lady would arrive and initiate conversation/breaking the ice as a prelude to getting down to the business. The 20-30 minutes they spend burning my time in the bathroom ruins the experience for me. When I arrive at my job, I am always ready to work as this is what my employer expects and compensates me for.

I have experienced that too.. 1 hour date, 15 min in the bathroom upon arrival, 15 min before departure.. total time spent together 30 min. I used to go once a month, twice sometimes.. not anymore unfortunately.

I’d say that’s been happening a while. In 2013 had a date with a popular lady, though she was newer at the time. She did that to me, spent nearly half the time in the bathroom.  Extremely attractive but performance was subpar. Coupled with the bathroom thing was a major disappointment.  
Had a date with Coed Carly that same trip that more than made up for it though.  
Luckily, it only happened once.

Vegas has changed based on what I've heard from some friends who visited recently, but there are still good providers out there.  You just have be diligent and do your research, using all available resources.  I also follow a number of providers on twitter and have crossed several off my list because of their bad attitudes.  It's amazing what some providers post on their social media. LOL

I still have a favorite provider in Vegas (Sweet May), but I haven't been able to see her since the pandemic started so it's been at least 18 months since my last Vegas trip.  Hopefully, I'll get to see her whenever I'm able to get back to Vegas.  I haven't had the chance to see Jaydalee, but she's also one of the well known providers that I wouldn't mind seeing. :)

You can do all of those things and still get no showed, and I agree social media can be a good source. Longer tenured/known ladies/good providers are still in the biz in LV for one reason, it's their profession and they've been successful at it. Showing up for work is part of that success.

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I just got back from a three day trip and I had nothing but positive experiences.  I had set up a date for each night I was there and they each went off without a hitch.  The girls were all great and all communicated the day of and all showed basically on time.  I am only mentioning this because some have stated that they felt the girls in Vegas were not reliable.  My experiences were all fantastic.  Granted, they were all ladies with social media presences and websites but if you guys are setting up plans with girls that don't have those then you are asking to have issues.  I hope more are having good experiences.  

So glad to hear you had a pleasant trip. Props to my fellow professionals who are keeping the standards high.  
Current social media presence and Website are not always requirements for reliability and quality. A long and stellar track record (granted there is a little timestamp on it) should help bridge the gap  😉 though

Agree with Kelly here, ladies with longer quality/reliable track records in Vegas are probably a better indicator. I rolled the dice on a newer lady/flashy social media earlier this week and crapped out, as I detailed further up this thread. Fortunately I had two other dates set up, the last one being a triple with two ladies I have seen many times and one new friend. Perfect (and draining) end to my trip.

MfSD

Heather D'Angelo still available?  Always heard good things about her but I don't see her Eros ad so that made me wonder.  There was another woman, Heather Heavenly?  She moved to Virginia but she appeared to be a woman who had her act together.  

A recent trip-  
—Long established provider grossly misrepresented her pictures- did  a little digging - pictures  were 10 years old and 40 lbs ago
- a very big disappointment was a gal I have seen multiple times- cancelled on me one night, scheduled for another and then was 3 hours behind - she fell asleep without contacting me
- only positive was 100 proof agency- smooth set up and one hour date with an established provider

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